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Leica 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 Vario Elmar-T ASPH

09/08/2008 05:29:25 AM · #26

Originally posted by JeffryZ:

Hmmm. I did not really read the description. Mine is really more of an advertisement shot. Better be ready for some DNMC comments. But on the bright side, I am up by a full point to a 5.0 now! I also thought it was standard editing- there is a flaw I would have liked to have fixed and see I could have. Oh well, learn (hopefully!) for next time!

And thanks for the comments (two so far)!

I'm right there with you... Mine is definately an advertisement rather than a "Product" shot.

Votes: 28
Views: 55
Avg Vote: 5.0714
Comments: 1

MAK

Leica M Monochrom

09/08/2008 05:54:18 AM · #27

Some people will argue that INDIGO is a shade of black than a shade of blue...

I agree with a poster before, enjoy the photography. I thought, while looking through the thumbs, that everyone done a good job.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

09/08/2008 06:03:07 AM · #28

Originally posted by LadyTara:

If a product shot is in a catalog, then it's an ad as far as I can see! Stop fussing over the difference already people and just enjoy the competition :)

Personally, after looking through the entries and commenting half of them (will get to the other half tomorrow) I can safely say I'm very impressed with almost all of the photos. Well done to everyone. I only wish I could vote, most of you would be getting very high scores from me!

Why in the world can you not vote?

timfythetoo

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

09/08/2008 06:04:18 AM · #29

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by LadyTara:
If a product shot is in a catalog, then it's an ad as far as I can see! Stop fussing over the difference already people and just enjoy the competition :)

Personally, after looking through the entries and commenting half of them (will get to the other half tomorrow) I can safely say I'm very impressed with almost all of the photos. Well done to everyone. I only wish I could vote, most of you would be getting very high scores from me!

Why in the world can you not vote?

No blue shirt.

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

09/08/2008 06:33:29 AM · #30

You have rated 117 of 120 images (98%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.0342.

Some nice images in there.

Delta_6

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/08/2008 07:11:18 AM · #31

Votes: 25
Views: 57
Avg Vote: 5.8400
Comments: 1
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Updated: 09/08/08 07:08 am

JaimeVinas

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

09/08/2008 08:13:10 AM · #32

This is going to be an interesting one. I figured my shot would get some advertising comments, but its hard to do a product shot without it being an ad in a magazine. Heck half of the good shots in there could be ads.

09/08/2008 08:24:24 AM · #33

Originally posted by timfythetoo:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Originally posted by LadyTara:
If a product shot is in a catalog, then it's an ad as far as I can see! Stop fussing over the difference already people and just enjoy the competition :)

Personally, after looking through the entries and commenting half of them (will get to the other half tomorrow) I can safely say I'm very impressed with almost all of the photos. Well done to everyone. I only wish I could vote, most of you would be getting very high scores from me!

Why in the world can you not vote?

No blue shirt.

Oh wow. Didn't realize non-members could not vote on member challenges.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

09/08/2008 08:26:10 AM · #34

Another great start... then mired in mediocrity. 5.4848 (which is up from a lower level). Started in the 6.x range as well.

Nikon D200

09/08/2008 08:46:57 AM · #35

Originally posted by Puckzzz:

I'm now realizing I should've used a different title. It's too late to ask SC to change it right?

Hi Puckzzz, we can correct a typo for you but we can't completely change the title. :)

kleski

Canon EOS-7D

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

09/08/2008 09:39:43 AM · #36

leveling off in the right direction......

Votes: 33
Views: 59
Avg Vote: 6.1818
Comments: 1

keep the high votes coming!!!!

scarbrd

Leica M10

09/08/2008 09:51:20 AM · #37

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Avg Vote: 6.6667
Comments: 5
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Can't complain, except for the nit picking about the difference between an ad and a catalog, geez folks.

liberty

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

09/08/2008 10:02:32 AM · #38

Originally posted by scarbrd:

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Can't complain, except for the nit picking about the difference between an ad and a catalog, geez folks.

Good score, I think almost all products in mags are ads, why else would they be in there, they pretty much serve the same purpose, same diff In My Opinion.

Tom_Robbrecht

09/08/2008 10:20:14 AM · #39

Avg vote : 5.6
Comments : 3
My image deserves better ;-).
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one stretching the definition of product shot in some people's minds.
I haven't started voting yet myself but I'm curious as to how far one can go with the stereotypical nuke-it-with-a-softbox-on-plain-background catalog shot.

Message edited by author 2008-09-08 10:20:57.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

09/08/2008 10:30:12 AM · #40

Originally posted by liberty:

... I think almost all products in mags are ads, why else would they be in there, they pretty much serve the same purpose, same diff In My Opinion.

??? Magazines and Catalogs are two entirely different things.

A magazine ads are promoting a product, enhancing a product in the eyes of the consumer...selling it by making it look good and enticing the consumer to say "I want that".

Now, once you've decided you want to buy that item you go somewhere to buy it. Perhaps a store, or maybe to a "catalog" (online or printed).

Example: Canon camera in magazine ad with brilliant photo example subliminally tells the consumer that this camera will help them take great photos. Now, go to B&H (or open your B&H hardcopy catalog) and see what the "catalog" looks like to place an order.

Some catalogs are better than others. For example LL Bean may have some interactive photos in an outdoor setting in which the product is displayed, etc...

Bottom line? Most catalogs are there for you to place an order after you've been sold on an item via mass advertising (magazine, billboards, tv, etc...).

snaffles

Nikon D7100

09/08/2008 10:30:39 AM · #41

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The image is OK, not very interesting, very safe, plays well with others, so it's doing well. :-) I shot as though for a stock site.

JaimeVinas

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM

09/08/2008 10:43:24 AM · #42

WoW! Im shocked how quickly my score went down from a 6.27 to a 6.07 in the last few votes. Geez.

liberty

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/08/2008 11:21:00 AM · #43

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by liberty:
... I think almost all products in mags are ads, why else would they be in there, they pretty much serve the same purpose, same diff In My Opinion.

??? Magazines and Catalogs are two entirely different things.

A magazine ads are promoting a product, enhancing a product in the eyes of the consumer...selling it by making it look good and enticing the consumer to say "I want that".

Now, once you've decided you want to buy that item you go somewhere to buy it. Perhaps a store, or maybe to a "catalog" (online or printed).

Example: Canon camera in magazine ad with brilliant photo example subliminally tells the consumer that this camera will help them take great photos. Now, go to B&H (or open your B&H hardcopy catalog) and see what the "catalog" looks like to place an order.

Some catalogs are better than others. For example LL Bean may have some interactive photos in an outdoor setting in which the product is displayed, etc...

Bottom line? Most catalogs are there for you to place an order after you've been sold on an item via mass advertising (magazine, billboards, tv, etc...).

they both advertise the product. either way they are both tryng to sell you that product.
Lets say your buying porn mags, you would want the ones (IMO) with the better looking people or higher quality shots, compared to the cheaper ones, where the photog isn't so great, I am not buying anything from that mag, I am buying it for the people in it so in a sense, they are the product, right? Am I now even more confused or lost? :)
So you are saying (example) B&H is going to do nothing to make that product more appealing, or do they just throw it out there and say here, it may look shabby, but buy it anyway? they do rate their products.(which helps in selling, attracting people)

ace flyman

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

09/08/2008 11:54:41 AM · #44

I'm with ya. 15 votes 6.20, 30 votes- 5.33, 44 votes- 5.742 at least its going in the right direction for now....Lol.

Originally posted by JaimeVinas:

WoW! Im shocked how quickly my score went down from a 6.27 to a 6.07 in the last few votes. Geez.

09/08/2008 12:07:17 PM · #45

I think those who did catalog shots are being penalized by the voters far more than those who did more advertising shots.

LVicari

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/08/2008 12:22:04 PM · #46

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

I think those who did catalog shots are being penalized by the voters far more than those who did more advertising shots.

Not sure what my pic falls under but its just falling. So if I follow your thinking I guess it would be more of a catalogue shot than an Ad style. I guess I should have gone with my original idea which was more of an Ad style.

Last night 7.1ish..

Now...

Votes: 43
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Avg Vote: 6.7209
Comments: 3
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Updated: 09/08/08 12:11 pm

09/08/2008 12:25:16 PM · #47

Originally posted by LVicari:

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
I think those who did catalog shots are being penalized by the voters far more than those who did more advertising shots.

Not sure what my pic falls under but its just falling. So if I follow your thinking I guess it would be more of a catalogue shot than an Ad style. I guess I should have gone with my original idea which was more of an Ad style.

Last night 7.1ish..

Now...

Votes: 43
Views: 95
Avg Vote: 6.7209
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 09/08/08 12:11 pm

Well, this is a great score, so congrats.

I was in the 7s, then high sixes. Now around 5.3x

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

09/08/2008 12:52:17 PM · #48

Originally posted by liberty:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by liberty:
... I think almost all products in mags are ads, why else would they be in there, they pretty much serve the same purpose, same diff In My Opinion.

??? Magazines and Catalogs are two entirely different things.

A magazine ads are promoting a product, enhancing a product in the eyes of the consumer...selling it by making it look good and enticing the consumer to say "I want that".

Now, once you've decided you want to buy that item you go somewhere to buy it. Perhaps a store, or maybe to a "catalog" (online or printed).

Example: Canon camera in magazine ad with brilliant photo example subliminally tells the consumer that this camera will help them take great photos. Now, go to B&H (or open your B&H hardcopy catalog) and see what the "catalog" looks like to place an order.

Some catalogs are better than others. For example LL Bean may have some interactive photos in an outdoor setting in which the product is displayed, etc...

Bottom line? Most catalogs are there for you to place an order after you've been sold on an item via mass advertising (magazine, billboards, tv, etc...).

they both advertise the product. either way they are both tryng to sell you that product.
... So you are saying (example) B&H is going to do nothing to make that product more appealing, or do they just throw it out there and say here, it may look shabby, but buy it anyway? ...

Here's an advertisement -->

Here's the above advertised item in a B&H catalog -->

I wish I had a Popular Photography magazine and a scanner available...I'm sure many of you have seen the ads for Canon/Nikon/Sony, etc...showing the camera in use with the camera and supporting props. Those advertisement photos are quite different than a catalog photo that shows a product only.

Sorry for the long post...I wanted to show that photos of products for magazines are different than catalogs (in response to

liberty('s) post).

Back to your regularly scheduled scores! :-)

ttreit