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 01/30/2017 09:13:57 PM · #1
If you don't have time to look at all the comments in the challenge, go to ubique's profile, and click on comments made. You'll see the great monographs he wrote for the art challenge.
 01/29/2017 11:40:04 PM · #2
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by mefnj:
while many of the jury picks were my top votes as well (and kudos to the selectees!), why is it that none of the jury picks made the top 10 (and some not even in the top 20) in the voting?

This particular jury's choices were based on individual preference, no discussion, no consensus. DPC scoring is based on averaging every single vote. The two processes could not be more different.

It's kind of like if you picked, at random, 4 or 5 different people that contribute (posted their pics) to the 'Top Challenge picks that failed to make the Top 10' thread. That would be the results of a 'Jury' rather than the masses. Results would rarely be close to the having the same conclusion.
 01/29/2017 11:27:26 PM · #3
Originally posted by mefnj:
while many of the jury picks were my top votes as well (and kudos to the selectees!), why is it that none of the jury picks made the top 10 (and some not even in the top 20) in the voting?


This particular jury's choices were based on individual preference, no discussion, no consensus. DPC scoring is based on averaging every single vote. The two processes could not be more different.
01/29/2017 10:10:57 PM · #4
I viewed the images no less than three times before even coming close to the ones I would be considering as finalists. And then I viewed them a few times more and still had not yet cast a vote. I think, for me at least, it may be that a lot more time was spent with the images so there was more time for an image to have an impact or inspiration. In the last two days of voting I had eight images I was cycling through and really having a tough time. It came down to really what inspired the most and deepest thoughts. Two of my other images finished higher than the one I ultimately picked.
 01/28/2017 02:43:07 PM · #5
My method was Alice's. My choices - yes plural, though I only had the energy to write one, were the ones I scored highest, the ones that moved me. No quarrel necessarily with the popular choices, but "oh that's nice" or "that's really very good" isn't quite enough. It is a lifelong task, says this old bird, to distinguish between the two.

01/28/2017 01:19:03 PM · #6
Originally posted by mefnj:
while many of the jury picks were my top votes as well (and kudos to the selectees!), why is it that none of the jury picks made the top 10 (and some not even in the top 20) in the voting?

interesting question, indeed. As a juror, I can say I selected the images to write about
from my top choices
where I had voted either an 8 or a 9. So, in my book these were the images I thought 'won'
the Challenge.

I thought they were fine examples of Art.

Obviously, others thought differently.

We are such a diverse group! That's what makes DPC fascinating and fun.
 01/28/2017 11:33:30 AM · #7
Originally posted by mefnj:
while many of the jury picks were my top votes as well (and kudos to the selectees!), why is it that none of the jury picks made the top 10 (and some not even in the top 20) in the voting?


made the top 10 and was chosen by the jury but I understand your point.

Like Don said the jury's picks were the photographs that inspired writing. Maybe they left enough room for the curious to explore? For me, some images say it all and all I can do is listen. Others, ones that hold my attention longer, let me in to make the experience my own. This is the dance between showing to much or not enough. Purely judging on technical merits you'll never see the magic.
 01/28/2017 11:04:52 AM · #8
while many of the jury picks were my top votes as well (and kudos to the selectees!), why is it that none of the jury picks made the top 10 (and some not even in the top 20) in the voting?
 01/28/2017 10:05:21 AM · #9
Thank you, Melethia.

Message edited by author 2017-01-28 10:05:39.
 01/28/2017 07:55:40 AM · #10
Thank you to the judges for the very many inspiring comments. Like Nam I am inspired indeed to have had posthumous comment about photography in general being a subtractive medium.

This has definitely got me thinking and until now not something I had ever really considered. Its true.. its what we leave out of the shot that predetermines the power of the shot.. thank you so much for making me think differently and apprecaite even more the power of the medium we choose to use as our canvas.

Love the way we this community lives up to its name.. its a challenge and its a great place to be inspired and to learn. thank you to all.
 01/27/2017 05:39:49 PM · #11
Being a devout Marxist (Groucho, not the other one), and as I have been honoured by sfalice I would normally now have to leave this club, but fortunately Don has given the caveat that allows me to stay,
"These are not necessarily the "best" or even the "most artistic" images. These are the images that got words out of us. "

Many thanks to all those involved. I know experiences like these add more flavour to the mixture that I put together when creating an image.
 01/27/2017 03:26:32 PM · #12
Thank you soooo much for having a jury...it's very appreciated!!!
 01/27/2017 01:54:08 PM · #13
Inspiring stuff, Don and jury. Thank you.
 01/27/2017 12:28:10 PM · #14
Originally posted by bob350:
Originally posted by posthumous:
...
For those who ask, "what is art?" maybe a better question is "what does art do?" In this case, it inspires writing. ...

In addition to the official jury writing, the challenge also inspired 938 comments during voting and more afterwards. Very enlightening to read them all.


I look forward to reading all those comments!

Thanks to the community for the appreciative response. It warms my stony, shrunken heart.

Message edited by author 2017-01-27 12:28:29.
 01/27/2017 12:12:43 PM · #15
Like others who managed to stir a juror to a paragraph, I am honored and humbled. Thank you, sfalice You really can't know how moved I was when I saw and read - and reread - it.

And like so many others, I am thoroughly enjoying re-visiting all the entries so honored and reading the words written about them. I do want to highlight one of Don's ( posthumous) paragraphs - actually more a message to all of us than a preface to his commentary on a particular piece:

"This photo is a great opportunity to discuss how photography “works” as an art. Each of the fine arts has its own technique, its own modus operandi, and we can gain insight into the different arts by comparing them. The comparison that this photo brings to mind is that painting is “additive” while photography is “subtractive.” The painter is faced by the abyss of the empty canvas, and bravely adds brushstroke after brushstroke of paint, laboriously building up an image. The photographer, on the other hand, stands on the cliff of TMI… every detail within frame bounces photons through the shutter of his camera: a wealth of detail that threatens to be nothing more than the chaos we see every day of our lives. The photographer’s journey from chaos to art therefore seems subtractive in nature. The challenge becomes how to remove information, to highlight and juxtapose certain elements, in order to do what art does, whatever that is. "

I will take these words with me not only as I pursue photography but also to others far beyond this community with whom I know they will resonate.
 01/27/2017 11:32:31 AM · #16
I'm delighted to have my image included in this collection of works, pleased that it inspired such an interesting paragraph, and intrigued by seeing the same sobering theme also reflected in many of skewsme's other paragraphs.

Thank you to the jury for your hard work and interesting/intriguing/thoughtful paragraphs but most of all for being willing to share your reactions with the rest of us. I salute Don's ( posthumous's) decision not to subject the selection process to one that required any level of consensus among the jurors.

Message edited by author 2017-01-27 19:31:02.
 01/27/2017 11:31:05 AM · #17
Originally posted by mariuca:
If an ART challenge inspires 142 people to enter and 938 to comment plus a jury that spent even more time with the images and was prompted to respond in a very eloquent way...then we shall definitely consider more of these types of challenges.


+1,000,000
 01/27/2017 11:08:44 AM · #18
If an ART challenge inspires 142 people to enter and 938 to comment plus a jury that spent even more time with the images and was prompted to respond in a very eloquent way...then we shall definitely consider more of these types of challenges.
01/27/2017 09:33:46 AM · #19
Thank you all for the comments and the nod. Much appreciate the time and thought given.
 01/27/2017 09:32:51 AM · #20
Thank you jury members for all of the hard work you have put into this endeavor. It is a joy to read the comments. There are so many great images in this challenge so I know your job was difficult. Thank you.
 01/27/2017 06:06:44 AM · #21
Originally posted by posthumous:
...
For those who ask, "what is art?" maybe a better question is "what does art do?" In this case, it inspires writing. ...

In addition to the official jury writing, the challenge also inspired 938 comments during voting and more afterwards. Very enlightening to read them all.
01/27/2017 03:49:52 AM · #22
Wow!

There is amazing effort gone into these. I look forward to reading this later on tonight.

Superb work jurors! Genuinely.
 01/27/2017 03:43:53 AM · #23
An excellent selection of writing on some excellent images. Well done all round. I missed entering and viewing this one but have been hugely enjoying looking through the challenge now. Great stuff from all that entered and from Don and the jury as well.
 01/27/2017 03:28:30 AM · #24
I am humbled to have been included among these wonderful photographs. When I entered I did so with trepidation and little confidence in what I'd created. For once I didn't care about score, I only wondered if I'd managed to "inspire writing" in some way. Thank you, Melethia, for taking the time, thank you Don for organizing this, and thanks to entire jury for their hard work. Congrats to all.
 01/27/2017 02:31:48 AM · #25
I greatly enjoyed this challenge, like paul said, we should have these kinds of juried challenges more often, thanks to the jury.
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