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09/11/2005 06:05:05 AM · #1 |
Originally posted by madcrabber:
try using a real dictionary |
Try being polite. I was simply giving one example.
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09/10/2005 08:43:51 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
I use the challenges to send my picture-taking in a particular direction. What I see as a result of mulling over the theme is going to be different from someone else. That is what voting is for.
Think about it, compose your shot, take it, and if it feels right, Submit it for voting.
Take what you feel is a portrait, and if it looks and feels like a portrait, submit it. |
I agree.. there are no limitations on interpretation and creativity.. |
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09/10/2005 01:45:31 AM · #3 |
I use the challenges to send my picture-taking in a particular direction. What I see as a result of mulling over the theme is going to be different from someone else. That is what voting is for.
Think about it, compose your shot, take it, and if it feels right, Submit it for voting.
Take what you feel is a portrait, and if it looks and feels like a portrait, submit it.
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09/10/2005 01:02:55 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by madcrabber:
the oxford dictionary states that a person is involved in pthe image. yet there are plenty of photographers out there taking animal portraits for families of there pets so what is the right answer other than reasonable personal interpretation as art is supposed to be any way is it not? |
For what it's worth, whether or not an animal picture qualifies as a "portrait" is entirely a personal definition. There are LOTS of people who would say an image of a pet is not a portrait, because they DEFINE portrait as being an image of a person. This isn't "wrong" just because there are other definitions.
Suppose that in a "white on white" challenge, someone photographed a caucasian person with a suntan against a white backdrop, and justified it by saying "One definition of "white" is a white man, a caucasian person." A lot of voters would have voted this down regardless that the definition might be technically correct, feeling that the object of the challenge was "clearly" to test our skills in photographing a white subject on a white ground.
This is always an issue, regardless of what the dictionary says. Do what you gotta do, and let the chips fall where they may; just be proud of your image :-)
R.
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09/10/2005 12:49:15 AM · #5 |
| the oxford dictionary states that a person is involved in pthe image. yet there are plenty of photographers out there taking animal portraits for families of there pets so what is the right answer other than reasonable personal interpretation as art is supposed to be any way is it not? |
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09/10/2005 12:43:15 AM · #6 |
| try using a real dictionary |
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09/10/2005 12:33:56 AM · #7 |
Take a look at the work done by Yosef Karsh, probably the gratest portrait photogapher ever. Others to look at are David Bailey and Lord Litchfield and Stephen Meisel just for sterters .
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09/10/2005 12:11:52 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Dreamerdoll:
Here's what the dictionary says:
Portrait
n.
A likeness of a person, especially one showing the face, that is created by a painter or photographer, for example.
A verbal picture or description, especially of a person.
adj.
Of or relating to the orientation of a page such that the longer side runs from top to bottom. |
Try using a real dictionary instead of one of the on-line abridgeded varieties that narrows the definition down to two sentences.
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09/09/2005 08:08:17 PM · #9 |
Thank you for your feedback! I still like the third pic, because of the expression in her eyes!!!
Thierry
Originally posted by sher9204:
in my mind the first one is definitely a portrait and quite a good one, too. the 2nd is borderline because the face isn't toward the camera although that's not always a necessity, i think it should be a very strong photo if the complete face isn't visible. the 3rd pic i would class as a snapshot...very nice for the family album but not up to the standards of entering it in a challenge.
of course, these are just my opinions. your mileage may vary. void where prohibited by law. and we thank you for your support.
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09/09/2005 07:59:18 PM · #10 |
A google search for "animal portrait" gave 1,860,000 results so I don't think an animal portrait is really outside the box.
The only details in the challenge description were about using color. I don't see why entries should be voted lower if they are animal portraits. (You can certainly can show an animal's personality in a picture.)
Just my opinion... |
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09/09/2005 07:54:42 PM · #11 |
in my mind the first one is definitely a portrait and quite a good one, too. the 2nd is borderline because the face isn't toward the camera although that's not always a necessity, i think it should be a very strong photo if the complete face isn't visible. the 3rd pic i would class as a snapshot...very nice for the family album but not up to the standards of entering it in a challenge.
of course, these are just my opinions. your mileage may vary. void where prohibited by law. and we thank you for your support.
:D
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09/09/2005 07:44:12 PM · #12 |
Are these pics of my kids portraits? Or snapshots? Please advise!
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09/09/2005 07:37:17 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
I guess I'm screwed then.................... |
This is not the forum for confessions!!!!! ;-) |
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09/09/2005 11:25:08 AM · #14 |
| I guess I'm screwed then.................... |
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09/09/2005 09:40:08 AM · #15 |
| I wouldn't necessarily vote down a picture of an animal simply because it was an animal, but it would be very dangerous. It would have to be set-up quite profoundly for me to score over 6, like the ones above, but i personally would welcome the variety. |
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09/09/2005 09:18:15 AM · #16 |
| I agree that this challenge is pretty much wide open. Technically, just about anything is fair game. But I'm willing to bet if you don't have a human being in the photo, or you have a human and their face isn't shown, the score will suffer. No one is going to vote down a photo of a person showing that person's personality based on not meeting the challenge requirements. It's definately the safest way to go. IMO, I think playing the "cute pet" card is a cop out of trying to take a good technical photo. Kinda like if there was a challenge called "Living room couch" and you took a photo of a cute kitten with a couch somewhere in the background and get halfway decent scores because people say "aww, cute kitten". |
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09/09/2005 09:10:11 AM · #17 |
According to Merriam Webster Dictionary website:
Main Entry: por·trait
Pronunciation: 'pOr-tr&t, 'por-, -"trAt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from past participle of portraire
1 : PICTURE; especially : a pictorial representation (as a painting) of a person usually showing the face
2 : a sculptured figure : BUST, STATUE
3 : a graphic portrayal in words
It does not concretely restrict the defintion of portrait to only humans if you look at the 3rd defintion or the 2nd fo rthat matter |
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09/09/2005 08:46:31 AM · #18 |
| Is there enough room for me in the box? We will sit in the box of narrow-mindedness that believes a portrait is a portrait is a person. |
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09/09/2005 08:33:47 AM · #19 |
| A portrait is a person and remember I will not read your title but if you have the word portrait in your title then I will read it and you will get a very low score and if your portrait is an animal I will close my mind or get inside the box and you will be so sorry because I will not be outside the box with you.;-) |
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09/09/2005 06:30:11 AM · #20 |
Here's what the dictionary says:
Portrait
n.
A likeness of a person, especially one showing the face, that is created by a painter or photographer, for example.
A verbal picture or description, especially of a person.
adj.
Of or relating to the orientation of a page such that the longer side runs from top to bottom.
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09/09/2005 02:15:22 AM · #21 |
| You don't want to be just another year-book type head and shoulders shot. A good portrait should tell you something about the person- show something about them. I would look at things like Annie Liebowitz pictures- like a Rolling Stone magazine cover. I think even old weathered hands doing something or holding a baby or a child's hand could be a good portrait. Tell a story. Get the viewer's interest. Why is this person interesting? Everybody is. Show us. |
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09/09/2005 02:12:53 AM · #22 |
Anyone remember Landseer?
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09/09/2005 01:55:31 AM · #23 |
I don't think a portrait has to be of a human being. In one of the past portrait challenges the 3rd place was a kitten if I remember correctly. Don't be discouraged by the "human" thing, I think a good pet/animal portrait can score well.
June
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09/09/2005 01:50:22 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by goodman:
does it have to be one person?
what about a family portrait? |
Does it have to be a person at all? What about a portrait of a horse or a dog? Open your minds.
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09/09/2005 01:19:39 AM · #25 |
| Good point. I think a family portrait has the potential to score just as high as an individual. |
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