Can I add vignette to an advanced challenge photo?

Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f/1.7 Aspherical MF Wide Angle - Black

02/24/2012 10:14:31 AM · #1

Hi,

just to confirm, I took a photo and want to add lot of vignette, should I? Can I?

Best regards,
Felipe

NiallOTuama

Google Pixel 2

02/24/2012 10:15:40 AM · #2

You may, yes. The should depends on the image of course :-)

Paul

Leica SL

02/24/2012 10:16:01 AM · #3

Yes.

Sony SAL-1855 DT 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

02/24/2012 10:19:24 AM · #4

Thanks!

bhuge

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/24/2012 12:14:53 PM · #5

The only thing to worry about is if the vignette is so heavy that it causes major elements of the photo to disappear. I have seen some images get DQ'ed when that happens.

JamesDowning

Sony SLT-A33

02/24/2012 12:48:26 PM · #6

What about adding blurring of a background? Seems that is acceptable.

giantmike

Canon EOS R6

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

02/24/2012 12:55:35 PM · #7

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

What about adding blurring of a background? Seems that is acceptable.

A little bit is normally ok. But be careful to not remove (or obscure beyond recognition) major elements and to not change the typical viewer's description of the photo.

For instance, if someone looks at your original image and says "That is a person standing in front of X monument" but that same person would look at your edited image and say "That is a person", this is bad.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

02/24/2012 12:56:54 PM · #8

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

What about adding blurring of a background? Seems that is acceptable.

As long as you don't utterly obliterate whatever it is you're blurring, that's fine, BUT:

be sure to only use regular or gaussian blur to be safe; radial blur, motion blur, all that kind of stuff is "adding an element" that wasn't there before and will get you DQ'd.

R.

bhuge

Canon EOS-550D Rebel T2i

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

02/24/2012 01:19:54 PM · #9

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by JamesDowning:
What about adding blurring of a background? Seems that is acceptable.

As long as you don't utterly obliterate whatever it is you're blurring, that's fine, BUT:

be sure to only use regular or gaussian blur to be safe; radial blur, motion blur, all that kind of stuff is "adding an element" that wasn't there before and will get you DQ'd.

R.

I used motion blur on this entry to merge some of the LED light lines that stood out a little too much when light painting it. I had the SC check it before I submitted and they gave it the OK. So as long as your radial or motion blur doesn't create elements that were not there to begin with it can be legal. But it's a fine line, and I would always check first before you submit.

mefnj

Nikon D7100

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

02/24/2012 01:31:44 PM · #10

i asked the SC for pre-submission check on this for another reason, and they also commented i needed to be careful of the vignette not isolating the eye so much that it would cross the line of removing the other major element of the photo, the rest of the face.

so, as others said, just do it carefully...

-mefnj

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/24/2012 01:32:54 PM · #11

You can (usually) get the informal opinion of a couple of SC members by submitting a Before/After comparison of your image in a Ticket (Help > Contact Us > DPChallenge - General Inquiry), along with your editing steps in as much detail as practical. This does not assure validation/DQ, but should give you a pretty good idea ...

Try to do this at least a couple of days before the submission deadline.

Message edited by author 2012-02-24 13:34:55.

JamesDowning

Sony SLT-A33

Sony SAL-1855 DT 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

02/24/2012 02:03:40 PM · #12

Thanks guys, I didn't realize we could get pre-approval. I'll do that.

Denielle

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

02/24/2012 02:44:10 PM · #13

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Thanks guys, I didn't realize we could get pre-approval. I'll do that.

I don't think it's really "pre-approval" as it doesn't guarantee that it won't be DQ'd, but it gives you a general idea on if your chosen tool is legal.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

02/24/2012 03:07:48 PM · #14

Originally posted by dyridings:

Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Thanks guys, I didn't realize we could get pre-approval. I'll do that.

I don't think it's really "pre-approval" as it doesn't guarantee that it won't be DQ'd, but it gives you a general idea on if your chosen tool is legal.

Your interpretation is correct. :-)

Sony SAL-1855 DT 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

02/25/2012 07:37:09 AM · #15

Thanks. I added vignette, but all the visible elements were preserved ;) just added to conceal a little the white home made studio background ;) I think it is ok.

Message edited by author 2012-02-25 07:37:52.

JamesDowning

Sony SLT-A33

02/27/2012 10:41:05 AM · #16

Is not hearing back from the council a good thing? Maybe I'm just getting antsy due to the looming deadline.

02/27/2012 12:47:08 PM · #17

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Is not hearing back from the council a good thing? Maybe I'm just getting antsy due to the looming deadline.

Yes. I sent a message to the concil and they said the picture was Ok and I would probably not have issues on advanced rule. After voting I will post the two here.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

03/07/2012 07:37:55 PM · #18

This is the photo ... the vignette is post processing.

//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=1000699

mefnj

Nikon D7100

03/07/2012 08:20:10 PM · #19

Originally posted by felipecrp:

This is the photo ... the vignette is post processing.

//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=1000699

that is a very good application of vignette