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10/18/2012 10:19:28 PM · #1
//www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/showbiz/2012/10/18/ac-ridiculist-celebrity-endorsements.cnn

I'm so impressed. :-\
10/18/2012 10:31:44 PM · #2
seriously
10/18/2012 10:32:42 PM · #3
?????????????????

sorry I forgot my question marks on my last post
10/18/2012 10:33:34 PM · #4
Care to summarize for those who don't "do" video or can't hear audio ...?
10/18/2012 10:34:01 PM · #5
Never even heard of honey boo boo, why does she have a reality show?

You guys are nuts!!
10/18/2012 10:35:10 PM · #6
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Care to summarize for those who don't "do" video or can't hear audio ...?


Honey Boo-Boo endorses Barack Obama. Because Mitt Romney prefers Snooki..

Really, will the last one out please turn out the lights? SMH.
10/18/2012 10:36:47 PM · #7
Originally posted by Cory:

//www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/showbiz/2012/10/18/ac-ridiculist-celebrity-endorsements.cnn

I'm so impressed. :-\


really? that is almost as bad as having bonehead teabaggers support ya. ah, life in a one party nation - the corporate party cant lose ... again!
10/18/2012 10:45:10 PM · #8
What I don't understand is why they had such a looooong ad for meds for ADHD. If you have ADHD, there's no way you'd be able to sit through that ad.

I can honestly say, that's the first time I've ever even seen honey boo boo. I've heard of her, but I've never seen her. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen Snooky on tv, either. Online and in magazines, yes, but I've never heard her speak.
10/18/2012 10:45:16 PM · #9
well honestly I think Obama got elected because of people like honey boo boo. They know next to nothing about the candidates and just vote...How else can you explain it
10/18/2012 10:55:18 PM · #10
Originally posted by lilysmom:

What I don't understand is why they had such a looooong ad for meds for ADHD. If you have ADHD, there's no way you'd be able to sit through that ad.



this says a lot about your country!
10/18/2012 11:16:22 PM · #11
Originally posted by cowboy221977:

well honestly I think Obama got elected because of people like honey boo boo. They know next to nothing about the candidates and just vote...How else can you explain it


That's how every president gets elected. It's been this way for a while, but no one seems to have noticed until recently.
10/18/2012 11:18:37 PM · #12
Why anyone thinks this is a valid question is beyond me. I think that if I were running for president of the United States of America, that I've said, "Surely you have something better to ask me."

Really. I am that rude.

I, oddly enough, think that the presidential vote is important.

*sigh*

But, since I'm NOT running for president, I enjoyed getting to know Honey Boo Boo a bit from the video.

I did not research Snooky.

I'll save that thrill for tomorrow.

The anticipation will... most likely ... keep me up all night.

10/18/2012 11:26:04 PM · #13
Originally posted by LydiaToo:

Why anyone thinks this is a valid question is beyond me. I think that if I were running for president of the United States of America, that I've said, "Surely you have something better to ask me."

Really. I am that rude.

I, oddly enough, think that the presidential vote is important.

*sigh*

But, since I'm NOT running for president, I enjoyed getting to know Honey Boo Boo a bit from the video.

I did not research Snooky.

I'll save that thrill for tomorrow.

The anticipation will... most likely ... keep me up all night.


Snooki

Honey Boo Boo

10/19/2012 04:34:05 AM · #14
Originally posted by Neat:

this says a lot about your country!


Anita do you know what ADHD is? Amber's point is a great one, long ADHD ads make as much sense as a radio ad for hearing aids or a magazine ad for a blindness cure. What exactly do you think it says so much about our country, I would love to hear you expand that thought.
10/19/2012 04:46:58 AM · #15
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by Neat:

this says a lot about your country!


Anita do you know what ADHD is? Amber's point is a great one, long ADHD ads make as much sense as a radio ad for hearing aids or a magazine ad for a blindness cure. What exactly do you think it says so much about our country, I would love to hear you expand that thought.


If I told you what I thought about "ADHD" I would start a backlash on here, that I would never here the end of!!

So if you really want to know I will PM you.

Otherwise my lips are sealed~
10/19/2012 07:01:19 AM · #16
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

[quote=Neat] What exactly do you think it says so much about our country, I would love to hear you expand that thought.
I'll bite. I would say ADHD is a manufactured disease. When I was a professor, there were a good number of students I taught who had ADHD. There's only one, out of all of them though, I would classify myself as having ADHD. I think the big pharm won that battle and the governing agency in the US, FDA or whoever, didn't have the balls to stand up to them. EIther big pharm had good lobbying or the watchdog agency was simply ineffectual. Probably a combination of both. We have the same epidemic in Canada also, so it's entirely confined within your borders.

You can't keep clawing back things like phys. ed. classes and expect young students to be able to sit motionless for hours at a time. In some school districts you can't play games like tag, because a single student is singled out. They tried to ban soccer balls up here because a stray ball hit a person not playing and concussed her (it made SNL it was that ridiculous). The solution, don't allow anyone to play with balls for any reason. It's these kinds of policies that foster things like ADHD. Here, go outside and play, but hey, just sit there in the corner because actually doing anything will be against the rules. Our society has become absurd. It is an absolute mockery towards common sense, and it's only getting worse.
10/19/2012 01:21:19 PM · #17
ADHD is called being a kid.
10/19/2012 01:47:58 PM · #18
Originally posted by Venser:

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

[quote=Neat] What exactly do you think it says so much about our country, I would love to hear you expand that thought.
I'll bite. I would say ADHD is a manufactured disease. When I was a professor, there were a good number of students I taught who had ADHD. There's only one, out of all of them though, I would classify myself as having ADHD. I think the big pharm won that battle and the governing agency in the US, FDA or whoever, didn't have the balls to stand up to them. EIther big pharm had good lobbying or the watchdog agency was simply ineffectual. Probably a combination of both. We have the same epidemic in Canada also, so it's entirely confined within your borders.

You can't keep clawing back things like phys. ed. classes and expect young students to be able to sit motionless for hours at a time. In some school districts you can't play games like tag, because a single student is singled out. They tried to ban soccer balls up here because a stray ball hit a person not playing and concussed her (it made SNL it was that ridiculous). The solution, don't allow anyone to play with balls for any reason. It's these kinds of policies that foster things like ADHD. Here, go outside and play, but hey, just sit there in the corner because actually doing anything will be against the rules. Our society has become absurd. It is an absolute mockery towards common sense, and it's only getting worse.

I tried reading your post, but it's too long.
10/19/2012 01:51:01 PM · #19
Originally posted by Venser:

I would say ADHD is a manufactured disease.


Amen!

RE: Honey Boo Boo.... we're doomed. We're SO doomed...
10/19/2012 02:12:54 PM · #20
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Venser:

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

[quote=Neat] What exactly do you think it says so much about our country, I would love to hear you expand that thought.
I'll bite. I would say ADHD is a manufactured disease. When I was a professor, there were a good number of students I taught who had ADHD. There's only one, out of all of them though, I would classify myself as having ADHD. I think the big pharm won that battle and the governing agency in the US, FDA or whoever, didn't have the balls to stand up to them. EIther big pharm had good lobbying or the watchdog agency was simply ineffectual. Probably a combination of both. We have the same epidemic in Canada also, so it's entirely confined within your borders.

You can't keep clawing back things like phys. ed. classes and expect young students to be able to sit motionless for hours at a time. In some school districts you can't play games like tag, because a single student is singled out. They tried to ban soccer balls up here because a stray ball hit a person not playing and concussed her (it made SNL it was that ridiculous). The solution, don't allow anyone to play with balls for any reason. It's these kinds of policies that foster things like ADHD. Here, go outside and play, but hey, just sit there in the corner because actually doing anything will be against the rules. Our society has become absurd. It is an absolute mockery towards common sense, and it's only getting worse.

I tried reading your post, but it's too long.


There's a shorthand for that now. Quite popular in fact, much to my disgust.

TL;DR
10/19/2012 02:15:50 PM · #21
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by Venser:

I would say ADHD is a manufactured disease.


Amen!

RE: Honey Boo Boo.... we're doomed. We're SO doomed...


What, you mean it's somehow wrong to teach your child to "Shake her booty" at 4? Don't tell me you disapprove of her telling people that "A dolla make me holla", or that you're actually so uptight as to think feeding massive quantities of caffeine and sugar to your kid is irresponsible.

Sheesh. You've gotta loosen up some, it's not like it matters if she's going to be a drug addicted prostitute in a few years or not - She's famous, can't you see how much more that matters?
10/19/2012 02:56:57 PM · #22
There actually is something that they're "diagnosing" and labeling Obedience Defiance Disorder. Seriously.

When I was growing up, they called that "not wanting to do something so pitching a fit".

I was spanked for it.

Now they label having a will of your own with having a disorder. They get special attention for this... for not wanting to do something they're told to do.

Go figure.
10/19/2012 03:05:23 PM · #23
Originally posted by LydiaToo:

There actually is something that they're "diagnosing" and labeling Obedience Defiance Disorder. Seriously.

When I was growing up, they called that "not wanting to do something so pitching a fit".

I was spanked for it.

Now they label having a will of your own with having a disorder. They get special attention for this... for not wanting to do something they're told to do.

Go figure.


Do they have a drug to fix this new disorder? It seems that often the drug to fix the disorder precedes the diagnosis by a small margin.
10/19/2012 03:08:27 PM · #24
Not yet, Cory. Apparently, they are labeling the child with a disorder because the parents don't parent them properly. Seriously... here's part of the "Treatment" for Obedience Defiance Disorder:

"As part of parent training, you may learn how to:

-Give effective timeouts
-Avoid power struggles
-Remain calm and unemotional in the face of opposition, or take your own timeout, if necessary
-Recognize and praise your child's good behaviors and positive characteristics
-Offer acceptable choices to your child, giving him or her a certain amount of control
-Establish a schedule for the family that includes specific meals that will be eaten at home together, and specific activities one or both parents will do with the child
-Limit consequences to those that can be consistently reinforced and if possible, last for a limited amount of time
-Although some parent management techniques may seem like common sense, learning to use them in the face of opposition isn't easy, especially if there are other stressors at home. Learning these skills will require consistent practice and patience.

-Most important in treatment is for you to show consistent, unconditional love and acceptance of your child — even during difficult and disruptive situations. Don't be too hard on yourself. This process can be tough for even the most patient parents."


Seems like a better diagnosis for the child would be: "I have parents who don't discipline me or require me to do anything that I don't want to do, therefore I get away with anything I want to do."

That's a handicap, for sure. (not kidding)


Message edited by author 2012-10-19 15:10:18.
10/19/2012 03:12:08 PM · #25
Originally posted by LydiaToo:

As part of parent training, you may learn how to:

-Give effective timeouts
-Avoid power struggles
-Remain calm and unemotional in the face of opposition, or take your own timeout, if necessary
-Recognize and praise your child's good behaviors and positive characteristics
-Offer acceptable choices to your child, giving him or her a certain amount of control
-Establish a schedule for the family that includes specific meals that will be eaten at home together, and specific activities one or both parents will do with the child
-Limit consequences to those that can be consistently reinforced and if possible, last for a limited amount of time
-Although some parent management techniques may seem like common sense, learning to use them in the face of opposition isn't easy, especially if there are other stressors at home. Learning these skills will require consistent practice and patience.

-Most important in treatment is for you to show consistent, unconditional love and acceptance of your child — even during difficult and disruptive situations. Don't be too hard on yourself. This process can be tough for even the most patient parents.

WTF?

My favorite, -Avoid power struggles. I'm sure most of the older generation had a power struggle with a parent.

Here's how mine went.
1 - Show defiance.
2 - Backhand from dad.
3 - Now obedient, and I'd think long and hard before the next act of defiance.
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