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05/31/2013 10:31:40 AM · #1
i propose we expand the advanced editing rule set to expert for free studies or just remove the rule set altogether, just make it so we have to take all the images ourselves, even textures since you have the whole month to get all the images you need.

free studies arent a challenge so only apply the editing rule sets to the challenges. if free studies are supposed to be our best images we can produce each month, let us to that.

05/31/2013 10:50:18 AM · #2
No thanks - Free Studies are one place for a breath of fresh air. We don't need a bunch of digital collages polluting the environment.

Perhaps a 2nd Free Study could be run each month, parallel to the 'Advanced' ruleset, if the demand is strong enough.

Entry would be based on either, but not both (have to choose which one to enter).
05/31/2013 10:50:36 AM · #3
Free study is one I really like to enter because I can just try to get a great photo that doesn't have to meet a theme. I fear that adding Expert rules would make it more of a digital art/Photoshop challenge like the Expert challenges, eliminating just plain ol' great photography. Not that I'm anywhere close to that, but at least I have a fair shot.

Perhaps dual challenges, to include both categories so that folks can choose one or the other?
05/31/2013 11:08:41 AM · #4
I would love to see advanced editing opened up a little bit rather than a full jump to expert... Like, say perhaps allows multiple captures of different scenes, but drawing or creating new areas would not be allowed ... So you could replace a sky, with the sky from another image... But you couldn't draw a sky from scratch... This would take away the fantasy element and keep it more photographic...
05/31/2013 12:09:52 PM · #5
With all due respect, I think that the original proposal is a really bad idea. Expert is not something that most of the folks here feel comfortable with. To introduce that ruleset to Free Studies would discourage a lot of folks that don't play in the Expert sandbox.
FWIW, I *am* biased, I don't care for the Expert Rules, even though I have the Ps skills. I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not alone.
I do think that there are certain avenues where Advanced could be opened up a little. I don't think it will ever happen though. There are too many perceived roadblocks.
05/31/2013 12:17:57 PM · #6
NO
05/31/2013 12:31:36 PM · #7
Another "no" over here. I like being able to enter my best/favorite image each month and this would turn it into a digital art challenge.
05/31/2013 12:34:16 PM · #8
Originally posted by kirbic:

With all due respect, I think that the original proposal is a really bad idea. Expert is not something that most of the folks here feel comfortable with. To introduce that ruleset to Free Studies would discourage a lot of folks that don't play in the Expert sandbox.
FWIW, I *am* biased, I don't care for the Expert Rules, even though I have the Ps skills. I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not alone.
I do think that there are certain avenues where Advanced could be opened up a little. I don't think it will ever happen though. There are too many perceived roadblocks.


i wasn't sure how to go how about and I'll admit expert is overkill. Expert gets a bad name probably because we fail to self police the stipulation of maintaining photographic integrity. the point i was trying to make is that many people i assume would like a bit more freedom in some way than advanced allows, replacing a background, adding a texture, coning out a prominent item, enhancing flare, painting in some catch lights, little things that would be an instant dq no matter how small.

the expert rule set allows for too much manipulation and that and the adv rule set is even still far too limiting.

i haven't entered free studies lately because i noticed that while editing my images i took it too far too be able to enter, I'll say to myself, nope, not this one, added a catch-light, nope cloned out something major, nope liquify too liberal, etc.

i just cant bring myself to half ass an edit just to enter it so i dont bother entering, but i really want too but give into my perfectionist side.

I wonder how many others dont enter or enter less than their best because they broke a rule.

Message edited by author 2013-05-31 12:39:08.
05/31/2013 12:39:35 PM · #9
Mike, I think we are on something close to the same wavelength. It boggles my mind that I can't stitch together two or more images to form a panorama *of a continuous scene* for example, or do other relatively simple things that would greatly enhance the opportunities for creativity. But as I said, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of it happening.
05/31/2013 12:44:12 PM · #10
Down with rules.
There are way too many.
05/31/2013 02:19:34 PM · #11
How about more expert editing for Open Challenge?

1. Everyone can play.
2. Hopefully, to attract more digital artist, more tutorial.
3. All camera may have better equal chance not limited to only expensive body. Any P&S image can be transform into something FF body can't catch.
05/31/2013 02:29:05 PM · #12
For a Free Study I would welcome the opportunity to tweak things beyond the Advanced rule set such as occasionally remove a distraction that may be more significant than a telephone wire. However, I worry that allowing the standard Expert rule set might push Free Studies further toward what I think of as digital art than I would prefer. It seems like scores for good digital art images tend to be higher than they are for good landscapes, portraits, street shots, abstracts... you pick the category. So, I suspect the top ten of an Expert ruled Free Study would be dominated by digital art. While I enjoy a good Expert editing challenge from time to time, I would prefer the monthly Free Studies be dominated by what I consider more traditional photography than digital art. I am not sure how you might loosen the editing rules on the traditional photography end of the spectrum without opening things up for digital art end.

So, for lack of a better suggestion, I guess I would not mind experimenting with an Expert Editing Free Study on occasion and see what happens. Maybe our worst fears might not come to pass.
05/31/2013 10:08:19 PM · #13
Originally posted by Tiny:

Down with rules.
There are way too many.

This looks like it may fit your style.
05/31/2013 10:13:38 PM · #14
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Another "no" over here. I like being able to enter my best/favorite image each month and this would turn it into a digital art challenge.


Exactly....a No vote from me as well.

Dave
05/31/2013 10:28:59 PM · #15
While I like and appreciate the digital art that appears in expert challenges, I'd hate to see the monthly open challenges turn into a digital art challenge, as opposed to a photography challenge.

If there were expert challenges more often, I would not be opposed. But the month long challenge IMNSHO, would be best kept photographic.
05/31/2013 10:43:45 PM · #16
A resounding "NO!" from me...
05/31/2013 11:10:19 PM · #17
No.........
05/31/2013 11:20:52 PM · #18
I vote YES! That way I'll quit entering entirely. Save me a whole lotta grief, it would.
05/31/2013 11:21:49 PM · #19
Add me to the giant pile of "No"s.
05/31/2013 11:23:13 PM · #20
Not a fan of this idea and its not because I'm intimidated by the rule set, but rather I don't enjoy voting on expert editing challenges ( and mostly I do not vote or view them).
06/01/2013 12:24:53 AM · #21
I've never seen DPC so united.
06/01/2013 06:14:36 AM · #22
Originally posted by Tiny:

Down with rules.
There are way too many.


+1
06/01/2013 08:31:23 AM · #23
So many for whatever reason don't want digital art in a free study and I can appreciate that. So if there were some way to stipulate the final product must maintain its photographic integrity and I realize how difficult it would be. Would folks be more open to a freer rule set?

So basically is the style of image the problem or the relaxed rules?
06/01/2013 08:39:54 AM · #24
Originally posted by Mike:

if there were some way to stipulate the final product must maintain its photographic integrity


not just difficult, but impossible rally.

i think the best solution has been mentioned a few times already. exclusive FS challenge with different editing rules for each choice. it would give those who wish an opportunity to spend a month coming up with an amazing piece of photographic art; and for the purists, the standard advanced FS.
06/01/2013 08:41:54 AM · #25
Originally posted by Mike:

So if there were some way to stipulate the final product must maintain its photographic integrity and I realize how difficult it would be. Would folks be more open to a freer rule set?

You mean like the first paragraph of the existing Expert Editing rules?
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