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09/09/2004 06:30:05 PM · #1 |
| a while back there was an arguement about 35 mm film being a dying format. well i have some updates.. sears stopped carrying all 35 mm equipment and circuitcity to abandon all 35 mm equipment before christmass... merry christmass you all...it may be a lot sooner than my 5 year projection that 35 mm die! |
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09/09/2004 06:31:17 PM · #2 |
| Interesting indeed! But there will always be some diehard film fans. |
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09/09/2004 06:32:58 PM · #3 |
Also, Ilford, just a short distance from where I live, has gone into receivership..
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09/09/2004 06:33:19 PM · #4 |
I will always be a die hard 35mm black/white film fan since I love doing my own developing of b/w prints. but i am okay with color going all to digital. it's good, clear enough for what 35mm can offer since 8x10 is the max most people will usually order anyhow from a standard roll of 35mm film of family photos.
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09/09/2004 06:34:39 PM · #5 |
Film isn't going anywhere until there is a high quality 2mp digital throwaway available for things like weddings.
There have actually been several articles in the industry related to the future of 35mm. Single use camera sales are actually up...Fuji has announced it's intention to continue working with 35mm.
It's not dead yet. :)
Clara
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09/09/2004 06:48:48 PM · #6 |
I was reading a book the other day and it was a bit discouraging. It said that unless its a 14mp camera (kinda narrows your selection) then we can't even dream of getting the resolution of 35mm film and that there's hardly any freelance photographers that use digital. They also said that they would never consider getting digital.
I would like to know how many freelance photographers there are out there that are using a Canon 10D and making money off it. Would you be able to use a 10D to make say a calendar or post cards? I mean I know you can't make a wall print, but the same can be said for 35mm! Does anyone know if Getty Images accepts images from a 10D? I'm feeling like I've wasted my money now!!
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09/09/2004 06:56:28 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by p_johns:
I was reading a book the other day and it was a bit discouraging. It said that unless its a 14mp camera (kinda narrows your selection) then we can't even dream of getting the resolution of 35mm film and that there's hardly any freelance photographers that use digital. They also said that they would never consider getting digital.
I would like to know how many freelance photographers there are out there that are using a Canon 10D and making money off it. Would you be able to use a 10D to make say a calendar or post cards? I mean I know you can't make a wall print, but the same can be said for 35mm! Does anyone know if Getty Images accepts images from a 10D? I'm feeling like I've wasted my money now!! |
I've read that too but I really wonder if that's true or if it's all part of the "if you wanna be a pro you have to mortgage your first born" mentality. Photography is an extremely popular hobby, whether you have aspirations of going pro or not. They (the marketing gurus) have to do something to keep us spending money! |
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09/09/2004 07:33:36 PM · #8 |
even 14MP's don't come close to a 35mm regular color film, which if converted would be around 20MP, and quality film like Ciba, would run around 40MP.
The problem is also the dispertion, film is "chaotic", pixels are alined.
But, that's a bit like MP3, people like me say, wooooh those MP3's sound like crap...but the 15 year olds are used to that sound...and now even the studios are producing "thin" sounding music...since it's become "psychoacoustically" accepted.... photography will do the same, we'll forget about pixel vs chaos" pretty soon.
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09/09/2004 07:39:05 PM · #9 |
I'm beginning to use both, now. I originally had a 35mm, but then got my digital which has capitalized my energies. But I'm looking at my old buddy, my Pentax ME Super and its warm, Velvia slide film with a fond eye of late! . . .
Let's face it, there are advantages--and disadvantages--to both camera platforms. I do suspect that as digital gets better and better, 35mm will be far less used.
Trivia: There were more digital cameras in Yellowstone National Park last year than film cameras--for the first time ever. I was one of them!:
Just shoot and have fun!
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09/09/2004 07:49:49 PM · #10 |
What is this film you speak of. Isn't that what you get on your teeth if you don't brush them?
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09/09/2004 08:17:24 PM · #11 |
I think film is that coat you car gets when you dont was it for 6 months
James
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09/09/2004 09:07:26 PM · #12 |
haha, bit funny I took out my old 35mm pentax last weekend.
Today I took out the 15 year old (or so) black and white film and put it into development - hope there is something still on it.
Bought batteries for it and boutgh my first slide color film.
The guy at the store told me that film sales have gone down
50% in Iceland but only 10% in Germany.
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09/09/2004 09:19:36 PM · #13 |
Trend in the US is about 25% nationwide. Highest in the Northeast US.
Clara
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09/09/2004 11:10:13 PM · #14 |
Having been enamored of photography for more than 50 years I will be sad to see film go the way of the horse and buggy.
However, If I compose carefully with my 6.2 mp digital SLR and print an 8 X 10 glossy, the result is somewhat better than the same film image processed at my local one hour crap photo joint.
If I had the time, money and inclination, I am sure that higher quality is buried in that 35mm frame, but it is not convenient or cost effective to realize that quality! |
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09/10/2004 12:35:56 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by ElGordo:
If I compose carefully with my 6.2 mp digital SLR and print an 8 X 10 glossy, the result is somewhat better than the same film image processed at my local one hour crap photo joint.
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With smaller prints, printed well, I think digital can outperform 35mm even. You also have the advantage of being able to afford to take x100 more photos and thus the chances of that perfect shot increase.
Apparently the noise on the high end digitals can be less than 35mm as well.
I think 35mm will keep it's strength for the pros and particularly larger prints.
The 14 MP argument is somewhat meaningless on its own as it depends on the size of the print.
I found a great article recently on print quality, I'll try and find the link and post it.
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09/10/2004 12:56:41 AM · #16 |
I still use my F3 every so often...... These are done with a micro 55mm. |
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