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04/15/2014 10:25:04 PM · #1
I am going to be going to be getting some bucket lists out of my way this summer...
South Dakota, Mt rushmore, reptile Gardens then off to Yellowstone (on the east side) for waterrafting trip, seeing wild mustangs and then spending a full day seeing
Yellowstone Lake, Fishing Bridge, Old Faithful, the Firehole River, Canyon Village, the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone, Artists Point, and the Mud Volcanoes and of course the wildlife..

Then on the way home visiting my old stomping grounds in the Rocky Mountain National Park (Estes Park) where I worked and lived for a year, then down and around back home

Right now I am trying to learn my settings on what I need to concentrate on and practicing on my ducks and birds and squirrels here at home.. I also have been wondering about shooting in RAW vs JPG.. I know with RAW its really gonna suck up my three memory cards fast but I will plan on downloading from each time..but I will prob shoot in jpg for Yellowstone because it will be an all day trip tour kinda thing

Any hints, tricks or things I should pay attention to while shooting especially those whom have been visiting these places would be great!

It is gonna be an awesome challenge to shoot this and I so look forward to completing my bucket lists yet again..

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04/15/2014 10:35:59 PM · #2
Quick suggestion would be to simply buy larger/more cards.
04/15/2014 10:39:37 PM · #3
First: I'M SO JEALOUS!!!

Now, let me address the first thing I think you need to reconsider, and that is to shoot in RAW. In terms of digital information, t's sort of like the difference between the original version of War and Peace, vs. the Cliff notes. The latter contains all the highlights, but you'll miss all the nuances of the original.

For memory, consider a portable external drive, which are really inexpensive these days, and do a daily download to it/them. Alternatively, upload the day's photos to the cloud somewhere (dropbox, etc.).

04/15/2014 10:53:43 PM · #4
aweeeee lol

The Idea of the external hard drive is an awesome thought! I will check into that..

Yes, Right now I have two 16gb and one 8gb but I am not sure how far that will take me considering all of the pictures I plan on taking

Thank you for the suggestion of that.. wonderful ideas
04/15/2014 11:58:54 PM · #5
Be sure to stop in Estes Park to introduce yourself. And, I am a volunteer leader of birdwalks in RMNP. Hope you'll consider participating. Free. No reservation required.
04/16/2014 12:25:20 AM · #6
Originally posted by jgirl57:

aweeeee lol

The Idea of the external hard drive is an awesome thought! I will check into that..

Yes, Right now I have two 16gb and one 8gb but I am not sure how far that will take me considering all of the pictures I plan on taking

Thank you for the suggestion of that.. wonderful ideas


be sure to get what is called a Class 10 SD Card...and with as much mb uploading you can afford...I just went from a Class 10 - 10 mg upload to Class 10 80 mg....amazing what speed can do for you!!!
04/16/2014 10:00:59 PM · #7
Never heard of an Class 10 SD card, getting extra cards seems the way to go as well.. just have to make sure I try not to reuse them.. the external drive that I checked into was a bit more than what I wished to spend..

hahn23 Where exactly in Estes park?? We plan on trail ridge road and up around that side of town, but I hear that Old fall road is closed for this year?
04/16/2014 10:09:41 PM · #8
Originally posted by jgirl57:

Never heard of an Class 10 SD card, getting extra cards seems the way to go as well.. just have to make sure I try not to reuse them.. the external drive that I checked into was a bit more than what I wished to spend..

hahn23 Where exactly in Estes park?? We plan on trail ridge road and up around that side of town, but I hear that Old fall road is closed for this year?

Richard's Web Site: he's right in downtown (!) Estes Park. As for external drives, you can get 1TB Western Digital drives for around $70.00, maybe a little less. Great investment.

Message edited by author 2014-04-16 22:09:55.
04/16/2014 10:21:14 PM · #9
Originally posted by jgirl57:

Never heard of an Class 10 SD card, getting extra cards seems the way to go as well.. just have to make sure I try not to reuse them.. the external drive that I checked into was a bit more than what I wished to spend..ctly in Estes park?? We plan on trail ridge road and up around


You can slide the "lock" on the side of your full sd card so you can't erase anything accidentaly. I wouldn't soley depend on this but it might help. I's go for the external drive too!

Message edited by author 2014-04-16 22:21:40.
04/16/2014 10:23:39 PM · #10
on your Yellowstone portion of the trip, that's going to be pushing it for 1 day to visit all those places. There is so much to look at in between places. Also you need to budget time for traffic caused by animals and other things like the crowds of people at the scenic areas like around Fishing Bridge and old Faithful. There is generally road construction in the park at any given time and that can slow you down a bit as well. I have been held up for about 20 minutes waiting on the Bison to cross the road more than one time.

I have been charged by a Bison after we drove by it, luckily car can accelerate faster than Bison.

I will be back in Yellowstone this August.

Message edited by author 2014-04-16 22:26:34.
04/16/2014 11:40:56 PM · #11
Originally posted by jab119:

I have been charged by a Bison after we drove by it, luckily car can accelerate faster than Bison.

and cows ... :-)

I literally "passed through" Yellowstone on a trip to the East Coast in 1982, somehow got the obligatory snapshots with a P&S film camera ...
04/17/2014 07:39:53 AM · #12
If possible extend Yellowstone to at least 2 days, once around the park just driving time alone takes the better part of a day. The park has one big loop that goes all the way around the park which takes about 6 hours to drive without any traffic jams and stops to see sites, there is a road that divides the main road that runs between the middle section of the loop but not much to see on that road so basically just used to get back to camps quicker. You may want to try to hit Old Faithful on the way in or out of the park, We were driving near Old faithful just before sunset one day and decided to see it again, it was amazing with the sunseting behind it so the lighting was beautiful and the bonus was hardly anyone else was there so parking was quick and easy, mid day it is crowded and the parking is packed. Lots to see, if you try to see it in one day it will just be back on your bucket list!
04/17/2014 08:01:09 AM · #13
We have brought a cabin for 4 nights our full vacation is 7 days includes south Dakota and Colorado 4 night is going to be in yellowstone..its a huge huge bucket list.. and one of those days we will be white water rafting on their river there..

Those are fun pictures I could not wait to see that happen ! That would be sooo awesome! that is really cool!!
I never been close to bison before or any of the other wildlife like that..hope that happens, but chasing not so much LOL

Message edited by author 2014-04-17 09:08:37.
04/17/2014 09:58:50 AM · #14
Jealous. Yellowstone and RMNP are two of my favorites. We're hoping to get back to RMNP in September.

Anyway, I agree with the folks who say to get more memory cards and shoot raw. Cards are cheap.

if you can afford it, get a GoPro for the river rafting. They're indestructible.
04/17/2014 12:53:40 PM · #15
so you say you have 3 days to explore Yellowstone? if so that's much better and gives plenty of time.
Up on the north east side of the park in the Lamar Valley Area, there is a pack of wolves that people look for early in the morning. I got to spot them a few years ago and saw just one last year. Its all about timing. Not long after we waited for about an our and saw the 1 wolf, we left to go do some other things. later that day, I spoke to someone who was there about an hour after us and they saw 4 wolves from the man pack at about 100 yards from them.

we had to wait while this little one finished his breakfast



Bison dont care, they stop anywhere they want



and one Bison caused a 15 minute jam up because he did not want to get out of the road. This is very common.

04/17/2014 01:18:47 PM · #16
Originally posted by jab119:



Never scratch your butt in a crowd. There will always be someone to take a picture of you doing it :)

The price difference between a couple of cards and the 2Tb external drives is negligible. Don't know where you looked, but there should be a ton of options for under $100.
04/17/2014 03:27:15 PM · #17
Absolutely, you can never have enough storage. I personally buy 32GB cards and stay away from 64GB ones (i only shoot RAW). 32GB cards have better compatibility and also i feel more secure having my images on two 32GB cards vs a single 64GB card in case the single card gets corrupted/lost.

Nobody mentioned extra batteries; hopefully you already got some but if not then definitely pick one or two extras and have them charged up and ready every morning. It would really suck to have your camera and extra cards and all and then run out of juice mid-day.

Other item we tend to look over are a more comfortable shoulder/neck strap like OP/TECH USA ones - you will be carrying your camera all day and it could get tiring with the stock strap. Also backpacks that could hold all the gear comfortably. If you plan to shoot during night, you may also consider to bring along a tripod - lighter the better. For under the really bright sun shots, you might as well need an ND filter.

Another thing that i got hit by during a vacation was not having lens cleaning cloths/brushes with me. Out in the nature, its too easy to get your lens dirty and needs to clean it. I now carry a LensPen - its compact and does an amazing job of cleaning the Lens.

I'd also carry a smaller point & shoot with me. Again out in the nature, accidents/mechanical failures could happen and you don't want to be relying solely on a single camera.

Message edited by author 2014-04-17 15:40:05.
04/17/2014 03:37:14 PM · #18
Originally posted by MEJazz:

For under the really bright sun shots, you might as well need an ND filter.

I'm always a little bit bemused whenever I think I might be in a situation where I'm thinking "Oh darn, there's too much light to take a good photo" ... :-)

FWIW I've found you can use two stacked polarizers as an adjustable ND filter -- examples here

I agree with the principle of using more smaller cards, for better compatibility, reliability, and to spread the risk. Just have a good place to store them, and a way to keep track of which cards have what contents ...
04/17/2014 04:39:21 PM · #19
I have three filters but have really never used just because I do not know what they are...but one which is the UV filter I call that my scratch protect proof lens filter..that is on there all the time
The other two I do have is called a CPL and a FLD.

I am still learning about these kind of things still to get a grip of what they do and when I need to use them.. and I have the "hood screen thinggy" which I never used really either but don't know the name of that LOLOL..

I am a very noobie beginner on DLSR and its fun attachments..just started using a DLSR this Dec. (after Christmas)
04/17/2014 04:43:16 PM · #20
Love those pictures tanguera that is just hilarious. I will remember never to scratch my butt in public but I may fart or at least I know my hubby will ! LOL!

Thanks for all the help and tips this is great, I am trying to make sure I have everything I need because I so do not wish to get out there and forget something..

Right now I have three batteries.. I am not sure if that will be enough but so far right now, the one battery does a great job and holds up a lot.. Especially when I had it on all night using the remote and trying to take the pictures of the eclipse..

Message edited by author 2014-04-17 16:43:38.
04/17/2014 05:12:08 PM · #21
The "CPL" filter is almost certainly a circular polarizer. Next time you have some fluffy clouds put it on, face 90° from the sun, and twist it around to see the difference it makes: the blue sky will be bluer and darker, and the clouds will have a lot more contrast and detail.

The lens hood will help keep you from getting those annoying repeating bright spots in pictures taken in the general direection of the sun or any bright point-source light.
04/17/2014 05:37:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by MEJazz:

For under the really bright sun shots, you might as well need an ND filter.

I'm always a little bit bemused whenever I think I might be in a situation where I'm thinking "Oh darn, there's too much light to take a good photo" ... :-)

FWIW I've found you can use two stacked polarizers as an adjustable ND filter -- examples here

I agree with the principle of using more smaller cards, for better compatibility, reliability, and to spread the risk. Just have a good place to store them, and a way to keep track of which cards have what contents ...


I didn't thought about stacking CPL filters... i have usd a single one but it only drops the light by 1 stop or so. Also if i get two stacked togather, wonder how they act if each is rotated to different angle...

Message edited by author 2014-04-17 17:38:25.
04/23/2014 06:34:43 AM · #23
Might want to look into HyperDrive ColorSpace UDMA2
Wireless hard drive that backup and view memory cards without computers or external power. Wirelessly stream photos/videos/music/files to Wi-Fi enabled mobile device. No Internet required.
hypershop.com/HyperDrive/UDMA-2/

I got one and a 2TB harddrive to put in it. It comes with a module to attach to the side that lets it connect wirelessly to a Ipad, iPhone, android or computer.

The screen lets you view the photos.
Once you know you have a good backup you can delete them from your card or keep the card as another copy.

Have a fun trip.
04/23/2014 05:21:28 PM · #24
i did 2 weeks in the states took 4600 raw photos and HD video from my 5d mk3

ive got 128 gb card 2 x 64gb card 2 x 32gb 1 x 8gb 1x 16gb

get your self some bigger cards
04/23/2014 08:14:08 PM · #25
Originally posted by whyy:

Might want to look into HyperDrive ColorSpace UDMA2
Wireless hard drive that backup and view memory cards without computers or external power. Wirelessly stream photos/videos/music/files to Wi-Fi enabled mobile device. No Internet required.
hypershop.com/HyperDrive/UDMA-2/

I got one and a 2TB harddrive to put in it. It comes with a module to attach to the side that lets it connect wirelessly to a Ipad, iPhone, android or computer.

The screen lets you view the photos.
Once you know you have a good backup you can delete them from your card or keep the card as another copy.

Have a fun trip.


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