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 03/18/2015 06:39:05 AM · #1
Wow. I didn't know that rule set still existed (new challenge 'Blur'). Will need to read up on that one again it's been so long.

Did I say Wow yet? :-)
 03/18/2015 06:45:54 AM · #2
Did I miss something? on one side it says JPG shots and on other wide it says "use RAW conversion software as long as the changes are made globally to a single file on one layer and do not create new features or effects in the process.", since the original is not in RAW format then why would you use RAW conversion software?
 03/18/2015 07:24:26 AM · #3
Strange. You were allowed to shoot in RAW in Basic before. I wonder why it's now only JPG.
 03/18/2015 07:52:36 AM · #4
You can shoot raw. Your submission must be a jpeg.

On a side note,sigh.. I thought we had moved past this archaic editing set. It would have been just as easy to disallow blur in the advanced set for this challenge.
 03/18/2015 08:02:20 AM · #5
I thought basic was always JPG along with Minimal!
 03/18/2015 08:08:20 AM · #6
and it'll only be "regular" blur and done globally in Basic.. no post-processing zoom blur or motion blur, and def not slective blur... wah!
 03/18/2015 08:45:33 AM · #7
Originally posted by mefnj:
and it'll only be "regular" blur and done globally in Basic.. no post-processing zoom blur or motion blur, and def not slective blur... wah!

... or done "globally" in camera. :-D
 03/18/2015 10:00:23 AM · #8
I prefer Basic over Minimal. You still need to do most of the work in-camera, but can shoot in RAW so I don't have to change my camera settings.
 03/18/2015 10:15:55 AM · #9
Originally posted by Elaine:
I prefer Basic over Minimal. You still need to do most of the work in-camera, but can shoot in RAW so I don't have to change my camera settings.

+1 Also, not being able to straighten a Minimal entry that's a little off can make me crazy and make me appreciate Basic.
 03/18/2015 10:23:19 AM · #10
Originally posted by Elaine:
I prefer Basic over Minimal. You still need to do most of the work in-camera, but can shoot in RAW so I don't have to change my camera settings.

You can still shoot RAW + JPG and just use the JPG file for the challenge entry.
 03/18/2015 10:56:51 AM · #11
Basic doesn't make sense for me. I never missed it. Minimal can be interesting.
 03/18/2015 11:35:17 AM · #12
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Elaine:
I prefer Basic over Minimal. You still need to do most of the work in-camera, but can shoot in RAW so I don't have to change my camera settings.

You can still shoot RAW + JPG and just use the JPG file for the challenge entry.


That's still changing my settings.
 03/18/2015 12:32:35 PM · #13
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Wow. I didn't know that rule set still existed (new challenge 'Blur'). Will need to read up on that one again it's been so long.

Did I say Wow yet? :-)


They did it just to get on your good side!
 03/18/2015 12:34:21 PM · #14
Can't we just accept that this is a challenge and go with that?
 03/18/2015 12:37:04 PM · #15
It has already mentioned, but RAW is allowed for Basic edit.
In minimal, there is no cropping, etc. Basic adds the ability to apply global color settings and also allows for overall RAW editing and minor spot removal.
I don't see mention of shooting in JPG in the rules.

Message edited by author 2015-03-18 12:38:49.
 03/18/2015 12:38:42 PM · #16
Originally posted by Elaine:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Elaine:
I prefer Basic over Minimal. You still need to do most of the work in-camera, but can shoot in RAW so I don't have to change my camera settings.

You can still shoot RAW + JPG and just use the JPG file for the challenge entry.

That's still changing my settings.

Oh? Yep, I guess you could have it set to shoot RAW only. My bad. :)
 03/18/2015 12:40:56 PM · #17
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
Can't we just accept that this is a challenge and go with that?

I don't think anyone is really complaining ... it's more of a surprise (at least it was for me).

Probably a good thing it's being discussed as it looks like there are some questions as to the rules specifically. It's been quite some time since this rule set was used.
 03/18/2015 12:50:46 PM · #18
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
Can't we just accept that this is a challenge and go with that?

I don't think anyone is really complaining ... it's more of a surprise (at least it was for me).

Probably a good thing it's being discussed as it looks like there are some questions as to the rules specifically. It's been quite some time since this rule set was used.


I think basic editing was suggested so that the blur needs to be camera blur instead of PP.
But basic also means no spot editing, textures or vignettes.. not a biggie. We can still shoot RAW, crop, add basic editing (contrast, shadows/highlights, toning etc).
 03/18/2015 01:02:53 PM · #19
Basic Editing also specifically allows the use of Gaussian Blur but it has to be uniformly applied across the entire image. Also, remember that Basic Editing DOES allow the removal of sensor dust and hot pixels via the cloning tool.

Message edited by author 2015-03-18 13:05:03.
 03/18/2015 01:28:07 PM · #20
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
Can't we just accept that this is a challenge and go with that?

I don't think anyone is really complaining ... it's more of a surprise (at least it was for me).

Probably a good thing it's being discussed as it looks like there are some questions as to the rules specifically. It's been quite some time since this rule set was used.


I think basic editing was suggested so that the blur needs to be camera blur instead of PP.
But basic also means no spot editing, textures or vignettes.. not a biggie. We can still shoot RAW, crop, add basic editing (contrast, shadows/highlights, toning etc).


You mean like this?

Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by mefnj:
and it'll only be "regular" blur and done globally in Basic.. no post-processing zoom blur or motion blur, and def not slective blur... wah!

... or done "globally" in camera. :-D
03/18/2015 04:01:22 PM · #21
Originally posted by markwiley:
Originally posted by Elaine:
I prefer Basic over Minimal. You still need to do most of the work in-camera, but can shoot in RAW so I don't have to change my camera settings.

+1 Also, not being able to straighten a Minimal entry that's a little off can make me crazy and make me appreciate Basic.


+1
 03/18/2015 10:29:04 PM · #22
use only Adjustment Layers (or their equivalent). An Adjustment Layer is a special type of layer containing no image data that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode

So,this means we can also use our curve toning in lightroom correct?
 03/18/2015 10:30:04 PM · #23
Originally posted by jgirl57:
use only Adjustment Layers (or their equivalent). An Adjustment Layer is a special type of layer containing no image data that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode

So,this means we can also use our curve toning in lightroom correct?

Correct
 03/18/2015 10:35:43 PM · #24
Thank you!!
 03/19/2015 08:47:36 AM · #25
we should make basic the new minimal.
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