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06/30/2015 09:43:38 PM · #26 |
LOL - so this entity whom I never heard of has elicited strong feelings in both Canada and Australia.
Where else?
But, no, even with those enticements, I still won't try to find this show on what is called entertainment these days.
PS - so what else can someone cook without advance notice in 45 minutes?
Message edited by author 2015-06-30 21:45:03. |
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06/30/2015 09:59:11 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
PS - so what else can someone cook without advance notice in 45 minutes? |
One of my faves is saucy chicken.
Cube some boneless skinless chicken breast into bite size pieces
Brown in oil
Toss in a can or two of undiluted cream of chicken soup.
Add a tablespoon of lemon juice
Add some tarragon
Cook for a bit
Serve over rice.
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06/30/2015 10:00:21 PM · #28 |
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06/30/2015 10:04:23 PM · #29 |
oh, or serve with mashed potatoes that have a can of cream of mushroom added to it!
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by sfalice:
PS - so what else can someone cook without advance notice in 45 minutes? |
One of my faves is saucy chicken.
Cube some boneless skinless chicken breast into bite size pieces
Brown in oil
Toss in a can or two of undiluted cream of chicken soup.
Add a tablespoon of lemon juice
Add some tarragon
Cook for a bit
Serve over rice. |
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06/30/2015 10:12:50 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by pidge:
oh, or serve with mashed potatoes that have a can of cream of mushroom added to it! |
Actually, the original recipe was to serve it in a baked potato, but I prefer rice.
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06/30/2015 10:16:16 PM · #31 |
What if you did a shepherd's pie kind of thing and put the rice on top and baked it?
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by pidge:
oh, or serve with mashed potatoes that have a can of cream of mushroom added to it! |
Actually, the original recipe was to serve it in a baked potato, but I prefer rice. |
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06/30/2015 10:19:59 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by pidge:
What if you did a shepherd's pie kind of thing and put the rice on top and baked it?
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Could be different...
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06/30/2015 10:34:48 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by pidge:
What if you did a shepherd's pie kind of thing and put the rice on top and baked it?
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by pidge:
oh, or serve with mashed potatoes that have a can of cream of mushroom added to it! |
Actually, the original recipe was to serve it in a baked potato, but I prefer rice. |
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Or, chop up some mushrooms, saute them briefly, add flour and butter, cook some more, add milk or cream & heat until thick enough for your purposes, for the same effect,
or if you really want to add that canned mushroom soup flavor, add (from the description on the can) WATER, VEGETABLE OIL (CORN, COTTONSEED, CANOLA, AND/OR SOYBEAN), MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, WHEAT FLOUR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF: SALT, MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, DEHYDRATED CREAM (CREAM [MILK], SOY LECITHIN), YEAST EXTRACT, FLAVORING, DEHYDRATED GARLIC.
Now, that should make it tasty.
Sorry, I could not resist. |
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06/30/2015 10:39:33 PM · #34 |
I saw something where many of the canned soups actually have raw ingredients sealed in the can and then the cans are heated. There done in a particular way so the can's don't explode. Must be part of the reason canned soups taste the way they do...
I've only had mashed potatoes with cream of mushroom soup once, and it was quite yummy. Musta been the MSG, yeast extract, and "flavoring". I know prefer my mashed potatoes with lots of butter, whatever milk is around (could be almond, soy, or cow) and roasted garlic.
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by pidge:
What if you did a shepherd's pie kind of thing and put the rice on top and baked it?
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by pidge:
oh, or serve with mashed potatoes that have a can of cream of mushroom added to it! |
Actually, the original recipe was to serve it in a baked potato, but I prefer rice. |
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Or, chop up some mushrooms, saute them briefly, add flour and butter, cook some more, add milk or cream & heat until thick enough for your purposes, for the same effect,
or if you really want to add that canned mushroom soup flavor, add (from the description on the can) WATER, VEGETABLE OIL (CORN, COTTONSEED, CANOLA, AND/OR SOYBEAN), MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, WHEAT FLOUR, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF: SALT, MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, DEHYDRATED CREAM (CREAM [MILK], SOY LECITHIN), YEAST EXTRACT, FLAVORING, DEHYDRATED GARLIC.
Now, that should make it tasty.
Sorry, I could not resist. |
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07/01/2015 01:39:14 AM · #35 |
If you like the smoothness that canned soup gives a dish, try miso paste. You get that mellow flavor with many fewer ingredients you can't pronounce.
Last night's dinner was minced garlic and ginger, half goes in the miso paste and is spread on chicken breasts skin side up 475 for 20 minutes. Wait 10 minutes then the other half of the garlic and ginger goes in a pan with shitake mushrooms until brown and tender and later add pea tips (or whatever other mild green you have handy) and peas in the pod cooked until slightly wilted. Serve with jasmine rice. Top with minced cashews and lemon zest. You now have a spare 25 minutes to get outside enough serious alcohol to put up with an obnoxious guest like Gordon Ramsey. |
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07/01/2015 09:24:01 AM · #36 |
Oh wow there is so much hate for the man! So, having high standards and expecting others who want to work for you to meet them consistently - that counts as being obnoxious? Then I bet a whole bunch of us, myself included, must be absolutely horrible to work for. Most of the best in any industry have sky-high standards.
And why on earth is everyone expecting him to turn up and be rude to you?! He's a guest in your house, yet more than a few seem quite happy to tell him to go fuck himself - which is pretty obnoxious behaviour in itself, yeah? - or to go cook for himself, and he probably would cook up an amazing meal from the gleanings of your pantry and fridge, and go on to refine it into a dish worthy of Maze.
Oh speakin of which...Unca Raymee...one of Cheryl's young linecooks now works at Maze. Just saying. |
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07/01/2015 10:00:48 AM · #37 |
| Personally, I was trying to be funny, and you're taking me seriously for some reason.. But no, I don't understand the appeal. I've worked in high quality professional kitchens where I didn't get yelled and cursed at. It isn't necessary to do that to get a high quality product, and had I found myself in his kitchen, I would have stayed just long enough to find another job. The job is hard enough without all that. |
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07/01/2015 11:44:59 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Oh wow there is so much hate for the man! So, having high standards and expecting others who want to work for you to meet them consistently - that counts as being obnoxious? Then I bet a whole bunch of us, myself included, must be absolutely horrible to work for. Most of the best in any industry have sky-high standards.
And why on earth is everyone expecting him to turn up and be rude to you?! He's a guest in your house, yet more than a few seem quite happy to tell him to go fuck himself - which is pretty obnoxious behaviour in itself, yeah? - or to go cook for himself, and he probably would cook up an amazing meal from the gleanings of your pantry and fridge, and go on to refine it into a dish worthy of Maze.
Oh speakin of which...Unca Raymee...one of Cheryl's young linecooks now works at Maze. Just saying. |
Let me see if I can address this in a succinct manner:
- I have had over the years to train a myriad on personnel and not once did I resort to the behaviour exhibited in this program;
- I never once said that I would tell this man to go .... himself;
-You initiated your post by stating he came unannounced, and I would not prepare a meal for someone I did not know who showed up at my house unannounced;
- I merely stated that I would not cook anything and that if he spoke to me as he does his underlings I might place by boot up his behind.
I expressed my opinion as to the man's behaviour, no more... no less and in my line of thinking "High standards" also include how one deals with those in their immediate environment.
I have no hate for the man, just a great dislike towards the way he seemingly deals with underlings... there is a difference.
I do hope that this clarifies my previous comments a tad.
Happy Canada Day,
Ray
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07/01/2015 03:17:34 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by snaffles:
Oh wow there is so much hate for the man! So, having high standards and expecting others who want to work for you to meet them consistently - that counts as being obnoxious? Then I bet a whole bunch of us, myself included, must be absolutely horrible to work for. Most of the best in any industry have sky-high standards.
And why on earth is everyone expecting him to turn up and be rude to you?! He's a guest in your house, yet more than a few seem quite happy to tell him to go fuck himself - which is pretty obnoxious behaviour in itself, yeah? - or to go cook for himself, and he probably would cook up an amazing meal from the gleanings of your pantry and fridge, and go on to refine it into a dish worthy of Maze.
Oh speakin of which...Unca Raymee...one of Cheryl's young linecooks now works at Maze. Just saying. |
Let me see if I can address this in a succinct manner:
- I have had over the years to train a myriad on personnel and not once did I resort to the behaviour exhibited in this program;
- I never once said that I would tell this man to go .... himself;
-You initiated your post by stating he came unannounced, and I would not prepare a meal for someone I did not know who showed up at my house unannounced;
- I merely stated that I would not cook anything and that if he spoke to me as he does his underlings I might place by boot up his behind.
I expressed my opinion as to the man's behaviour, no more... no less and in my line of thinking "High standards" also include how one deals with those in their immediate environment.
I have no hate for the man, just a great dislike towards the way he seemingly deals with underlings... there is a difference.
I do hope that this clarifies my previous comments a tad.
Happy Canada Day,
Ray |
I never did say that you, Unca Raymee, would tell him to go eff himself, but at least one another anti-Ramsay person said they would. I wasn't targeting you, just made a boilerplate statement on a widespread reaction. I too have had to train myriads of underlings and managed to get the job done without resorting to *TV-Ramsay* behaviour; in fact treating subordinates with respect gets you a lot more cooperation. Having said that, when it's my own $$$ going in there pockets for their work, they had better perform to my standards. I've heard people bitch about how *very demanding* I am. GOOD! I'm self-employed, I work very hard and that's my rep out there. You better believe I protect it.
Besides, his *underlings* who do get yelled at on say HK and sometimes on Kitchen Nightmares, are all people who signed on for the show. Nobody is there against their will. Only on one episode did I ever see him get pissy with one of his actual sous-chefs on HK. And again, if you're continually screwing up and bringing the kitchen to a screeching halt and wasting costly ingredients, then you deserve a good telling off.
Ann...again I just included the general gist of your comment in with the overall tone from some respondents. I've only worked on the cold side in the two pro kitchens in which I did work, both fine-dining establishments. And though I did get yelled at a few times, it was never without cause and yes I usually did deserve it, but shrugged it off and kept on going. Growing up with 3 older brothers has inured me somewhat to the usual guy BS.
Overall, I have suffered far worse bullying, verbal and psychological abuse from women in the horse industry than men in any other line of work I've been in.
And now, of course, it's fun to look and see the way this thread has completely gone off course. Guess I'll just go restart the ol' zombie thread, What's for dinner? |
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07/01/2015 04:05:16 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Oh wow there is so much hate for the man! So, having high standards and expecting others who want to work for you to meet them consistently - that counts as being obnoxious? Then I bet a whole bunch of us, myself included, must be absolutely horrible to work for. Most of the best in any industry have sky-high standards. |
Having been in construction for most of my life, I have a very low tolerance for guys who try to intimidate and scream to get their way. It usually ends with physical confrontation. In an arena where television cameras are not on, where you work day in day out with someone, if you are an abusive screamer, you are going go get punched out.
I know a few people who cook professionally and have been in the same room with Thomas Keller and Jacques Pepin when they worked. Lets just say there was no screaming, which is the best route to go in a room filled with knives and flames. When Keller says something in his quite voice there is only one answer, "yes chef". His standards are very high, both for himself and for the way he wants his kitchen to work, which is quietly and efficiently. Pepin said of Ramsey's role on Hell's Kitchen ""I wasn't crazy about Hell's Kitchen. ... When I saw a show like that where everyone is yelling, everyone gets terrorized, there is no way you can produce great food under that type of condition. You cannot give of yourself." If you know Pepin, that is about as close as he get to full tirade. He damns with fain praise. Followed with careful instruction.
So while I am sure much of Ramsey's screaming jags are made for T.V., he is known to attack people for their race or their weight rather than their food, and I have seen him try to be pleasant on chat shows, you can see the effort he is putting in to be peasant. I can think of about 100 chefs I would love to have dinner with, but life is too short to put up with people like Gordon Ramsey. He can cook, he does some good things, but not in my house thank you.
Message edited by author 2015-07-01 16:12:23. |
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07/01/2015 06:11:57 PM · #41 |
Yes, I've also heard of how amazingly quiet Keller's kitchens are. Service Included, written by someone who worked front of house at Per Se, makes note of this, as does the author of Shucked. I am not in any way condoning Ramsay's behaviour in front of the cameras, but sadly that's what sells, and he will deliver.
When I watched Top Chef Masters it was a joy to see all these highly successful chefs working in the same space and all getting along, even to the point of offering help to one another if needed. |
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07/01/2015 07:51:35 PM · #42 |
| Hey SC, I think it's time this thread was locked, for obvious reasons. I'll just go kick-start 'What's for dinner?' next time I have a foodie moment. Seems safer. |
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07/01/2015 10:43:34 PM · #43 |
| It'll fade out on its own, never fear. Certainly nothing objectionable in it yet (knock on wood). |
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07/03/2015 08:06:15 AM · #44 |
Going with the assumption that I'd be amused, and give him a run for his money with my own obnoxious behavior, I have a fabulous fishmonger here in town. I'd make him a scampi with my own special way of seasoning (I use fresh home-grown dill out of my herb box on the back porch) & cooking the shrimp and blending it with angel hair pasta, a big-eye tuna appetizer with a soy-ginger-wasabi dipping sauce and a Caesar salad with my one little secret technique to add a special zest to it.
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