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12/21/2015 10:04:55 AM · #1 |
I know there are a few quadcopter owners in this forum. For those of you in the US how do you feel about the regulation and the manadatory requirement to register your quad?
Do you plan to register?
For those of you without quadcopters? How do you feel?
Message edited by author 2015-12-21 10:05:32. |
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12/21/2015 10:31:59 AM · #2 |
| How do I feel, as a non-owner? That it was inevitable. |
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12/21/2015 10:53:09 AM · #3 |
Meh...I have 4 quads. We have to register because of IDIOTS who won't obey rules and common sense. Now if in the unlikely event that my quad takes down an airliner, they'll at least have a starting point.
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12/21/2015 11:22:33 AM · #4 |
As usual, the people who register are not the problem.
[eta] Besides, though you can track who bought it, & you can track who registered it, you can't track who was holding the controls when it committed pubic mayhem--not unless you're required to file a flight plan every time you use it & get permission from a control tower to take off & land. What a thought. It was inevitable, I guess, but not very effective except to create another law, another government agency, etc.
I would like to have a quadcopter, but don't have one yet.
Message edited by author 2015-12-21 11:58:58. |
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12/21/2015 11:56:04 AM · #5 |
I think there is a brief (VERY brief) "tutorial"/class you must take when you register. Which basically tells you all the things you should have known before launching your quad into the air (i.e. height limits, safety measures, etc.).
Sadly, as noted here previously, it's the small handful of idiots (who will likely never register anyway) who make life impossible for there rest of us. |
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12/21/2015 12:31:51 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by pixelpig:
As usual, the people who register are not the problem.
[eta] Besides, though you can track who bought it, & you can track who registered it, you can't track who was holding the controls when it committed pubic mayhem--not unless you're required to file a flight plan every time you use it & get permission from a control tower to take off & land. What a thought. It was inevitable, I guess, but not very effective except to create another law, another government agency, etc.
I would like to have a quadcopter, but don't have one yet. |
I don't even want to think about quadcopters and pubic mayhem. |
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12/21/2015 12:32:31 PM · #7 |
Typical government overreaction. Like we used to be required to have an FCC license to operate a CB radio. Or because some criminals use OTC medications to make meth, Indiana is trying to pass a law to make them available only by prescription.
In the US, we have enough laws on the books to incarcerate the entire population. It would be nice to have some consensus on when government intervention is needed and to what level. As it is, the side that yells the loudest gets their way (or some bureaucrat makes a knee jerk reaction and until enough people scream about it, it is how things are done).
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12/21/2015 01:00:16 PM · #8 |
The "reaction" is probably inspired by something like this: 
If you are operating a device which has the capability of bringing down a passenger plane (or delivering a "package") it doesn't seem unreasonable to make it possible to know who is responsible for the device.
The $5 fee is certainly less than it costs to register a car, and if you act promptly it will be refunded. At least they are not (yet) requiring liability insurance coverage (like for a car) ... |
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12/21/2015 02:14:02 PM · #9 |
I have no issue with registering my quad but the problem still lands with those that have "ill intent" and or the uneducated masses.
How about a quad flying course and training programs on how to fly and where no fly zones exist and where you are allowed to fly which ends with a registration?
What if there was simply an override code on all UAV's that is given by the manufacturere after a course is taken and submitted to them. Once submitted they give you the code that make the bird operational.
If I want to fly into a passenger plane or deliver a "package" I'm still buying a UAV, not regeristing it and carrying out my plans. It's the same "gun law" principle but this time instead of starting several decades behind when everyone has a gun you can put good, sensible restrictions in place before the market is flooded with UAV's which I believe will be soon. Christmas sales on UAV's is predicted to be very high.
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12/21/2015 02:24:52 PM · #10 |
Our local CBS affiliate was just here at my house to interview me about exactly this... and I share the opinion of some others here. I don't mind registering mine at all, but I question how effective this program will be since responsible users are the ones likely to register them. The misfits of the world won't bother.
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12/21/2015 02:39:24 PM · #11 |
I may be getting into conspiracy theory territory here but I believe it to be a scare tactic for the public who fears they are being spied on or having there privacy invaded. This is just another ploy to get the general public whipped into a frenzy over nothing.
Where are the reports of planes and helicopter coming down due to UAV pilots? There are also a large number of "near misses" that are military UAV's that are usually lumped into the total number without mention causing the public to thing that there are thousands of UAV's flying around without regard for public safety.
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12/21/2015 02:44:42 PM · #12 |
Oh yay! Something else for people to argue about! Nikon vs Canon! Guns/no guns! Quads, no quads! YAY!!!!
Diverts us from the annoying upcoming election, for which we have no viable candidates.
Hey Canada, if we ask really nicely, will you annex us?? We promise to give Bieber back!
Yes, register it so you can get it back when you lose it, don't you think? Kinda like chipping your pets. |
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12/21/2015 03:03:03 PM · #13 |
| that sure puts a damper on shopping by quads. I had visions of them zipping up and down the aisles at the mall, snatching here, snatching there, and pausing at checkout with tele ID and then looping home - lazy circles in the sky, to my little ticky tacky hacienda. |
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12/21/2015 03:23:19 PM · #14 |
| Since they are capable of being out or sight and out of reach of the person operating it, I can't imagine a better thing for which to require registration. |
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12/21/2015 03:26:51 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Oh yay! Something else for people to argue about! Nikon vs Canon! Guns/no guns! Quads, no quads! YAY!!!!
1) Diverts us from the annoying upcoming election, for which we have no viable candidates.
2a) Hey Canada, if we ask really nicely, will you annex us?? 2b) We promise to give Bieber back!
3) Yes, register it so you can get it back when you lose it, don't you think? Kinda like chipping your pets. |
To answer:
1) That's because "collective you" are stuck with people who do life-long terms in congress and are stuck in the 60s and 70s, so only crusty old white guys can typically get their name on the card (notable exceptions notwithstanding - I think Obama is the best thing to happen to the USA since Clinton, and probably JFK before that...no offense)
2a) Sure. Just continue to be polite afterwords. 2b) Whatever, so long as Nickelback doesn't come too...
3) Obviously! Once someone has committed a crime with it, they need to get it back to you for plausible deniability on them! |
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12/21/2015 05:39:58 PM · #16 |
| Very interesting to compare attitudes in this thread towards the effectiveness of government regulations, vs any given gun-thread.. |
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12/21/2015 05:43:03 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Very interesting to compare attitudes in this thread towards the effectiveness of government regulations, vs any given gun-thread.. |
Aren't they running in close parallel? The arguments sound exactly the same ... the only real difference I see is that with drones we're not starting 300,000,000 units "in the hole" as it were ... |
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12/21/2015 05:45:34 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Very interesting to compare attitudes in this thread towards the effectiveness of government regulations, vs any given gun-thread.. |
Hard to say until we compare the stats on human fatalities in each case. |
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12/21/2015 07:54:54 PM · #19 |
I have three quads that require me to register. I am already a member of AMA so already registered. There is a already a number on all my quads, so now I have to add another one. No big deal. If you aren't doing anything stupid with it you shouldn't be worried about it.
Message edited by author 2015-12-21 19:58:35. |
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12/21/2015 09:09:23 PM · #20 |
Let's say I register. Go out and fly. Somehow the thing climbs and I don't have control. (I know it is unlikely with current technology)
The quad causes a catastrophic airliner crash.
Do I go to prison? |
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12/21/2015 09:11:25 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by GrillTowel:
Do I go to prison? |
Not if you throw in the grill towel... |
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12/21/2015 09:23:34 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by GrillTowel:
.....Do I go to prison? |
Depends if it is an election year.
Message edited by author 2015-12-21 21:24:04. |
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12/21/2015 09:55:39 PM · #23 |
| LMAO! Just went to register my two quads and the site doesn't load. |
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12/21/2015 10:01:33 PM · #24 |
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12/21/2015 10:08:12 PM · #25 |
On another note; this is never going to work unless the registration is required at the time of purchase.
I currently have two quads that I have just registered. Actually you just get a number to put on your devices. What If I didn't register? I can't imagine that I would ever be stopped and questioned by local, state or federal law enforcement when I'm out at the lake flying.
Additionally, what happens if my quad DOES NOT have it's id on it when I cause an airliner to crash? If they find me, do I do an extra 20 years for flying an unmarked quadcopter?
Just seems silly. |
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