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 11/09/2016 12:03:24 PM · #76
Originally posted by snaffles:
*rubbing eyes, yawning*....anyone got some coffee on? Finally escaped the two-month term of enslavement enforced by the Sirop d'Erabliers. Will have to go take a look at the shiny new improved rulesets.

Now I have to pick up that heavy black plastic thingy with some sort of strap on it saying NIKON and figure out how to use it and all those tubes with numbers on them. How do you put em on again? With an Allan key, right?

*slurrrrp gluggluggluglugglug* Ah....coffee. Good.


I am ever so glad I read this twice...hehehehe.... I really am twisted.

Ray
 11/09/2016 12:22:19 PM · #77
Originally posted by tanguera:
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Okay, now I'm totally confused. I need a PDF manual to remember what is and what isn't accepted. I really and truly wish there could be clear set of rules. I hope I am not the only one who feels this way. If the SC would like I would be willing to work on something in PDF form we could go by that is clearly laid out.


Not sure why you're confused. The current editing rule sets are here. They have been greatly simplified are MUCH easier to understand than the ones immediately preceding them.

And there's no need for a PDF. You can print them out if you need to see them on paper.


Well what I'm struggling to understand is how the standard editing rules can possibly be interpreted to mean that a filter and other similar editing post processing can be allowed. Extended editing says you may "use any feature of image processing software to manipulate/enhance the images in your submission", while standard editing only really mentions cloning out unwanted objects and filling gaps.

I have now been shown where there are forum threads interpreting the rules, and have been told that filters are generally accepted as allowed within standard editing. If that is so, why don't the rules say that rather than implying the opposite?

11/09/2016 12:22:40 PM · #78


Not sure why you're confused. The current editing rule sets are here. They have been greatly simplified are MUCH easier to understand than the ones immediately preceding them.

And there's no need for a PDF. You can print them out if you need to see them on paper. [/quote]

Thanks for the link again. I will print them out for certain. I got a critique from someone on one of my photos and it made me over think using Photoshop and I simply was hoping by using a filter on Photoshop I wasn't breaking rules in the impression challenge. :)

11/09/2016 02:14:31 PM · #79
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
I got a critique from someone on one of my photos and it made me over think using Photoshop and I simply was hoping by using a filter on Photoshop I wasn't breaking rules in the impression challenge. :)


Yes, just because they are now allowed does not mean everyone will like them. The rules were changed so that the decision of what is "too much" was shifted off the shoulders of SC and into the voters hands.

Originally posted by theicequeen:
Well what I'm struggling to understand is how the standard editing rules can possibly be interpreted to mean that a filter and other similar editing post processing can be allowed. Extended editing says you may "use any feature of image processing software to manipulate/enhance the images in your submission", while standard editing only really mentions cloning out unwanted objects and filling gaps.


Good catch. I will bring this to the attention of SC and we will discuss this.
 11/09/2016 03:27:40 PM · #80
It's straightforward. The filters are allowable under Standard Editing - by design.

We used to DQ for the creation of new features / image areas. Loads of case studies of controversy. Even members of SC disagreed on where the limits were. We simplified the rules and now there is nothing to prohibit their use; other than any disincentive that may come from voters!

So I support everybody's right to use them and I support everybody's right to score them down (or up) as they fit.

SC no longer quibble - can the wider membership please join us in non-quibblage?! :-)
 11/09/2016 03:51:36 PM · #81
Every time you sharpen your re-sized image you are using an option from the Filters menu. I don't think the rules specifically mention that cropping is allowed either, or Adjustment Layers, but I bet most people ASS|U|ME that if the rules don't prohibit it then it is allowed -- certainly those of us who frequently flirt with DQs and push the boundaries of any rule set think so ... :-)

Fascism: Anything not permitted is prohibited.

Social democracy: Anything not prohibited is permitted.
 11/09/2016 03:51:40 PM · #82
The rules are in the format of "you may..." or "you may not...", and there is nothing in the standard editing rules which suggests that you may use filters, or create new features/image areas.

Extended editing says, amongst other things, that you may "use any feature of image processing software to manipulate/enhance the images in your submission". Seeing as standard editing does not have such a clause, that would seem to me that you may not use any feature of image processing software, unless explicitly stated in the standard editing rules.

Seems to me like there is a group of regulars who know from experience what everyone else will allow or otherwise in voting - if filters and other post processing effects are allowed, then why can't the rules just say that?
 11/09/2016 03:54:00 PM · #83
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Every time you sharpen your re-sized image you are using an option from the Filters menu. I don't think the rules specifically mention that cropping is allowed either, or Adjustment Layers, but I bet most people ASS|U|ME that if the rules don't prohibit it then it is allowed -- certainly those of us who frequently flirt with DQs and push the boundaries of any rule set think so ... :-)

Fascism: Anything not permitted is prohibited.

Social democracy: Anything not prohibited is permitted.


I think part of the problem here is that there is a combination of prohibited things and permitted things, and anything that falls between is up for us to guess - or, for some people to discuss on a thread where other people wouldn't know to look.
 11/09/2016 04:06:31 PM · #84
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Every time you sharpen your re-sized image you are using an option from the Filters menu. I don't think the rules specifically mention that cropping is allowed either, or Adjustment Layers, but I bet most people ASS|U|ME that if the rules don't prohibit it then it is allowed -- certainly those of us who frequently flirt with DQs and push the boundaries of any rule set think so ... :-)

Fascism: Anything not permitted is prohibited.

Social democracy: Anything not prohibited is permitted.


Totalitarian: Anything not compulsory is forbidden.
 11/09/2016 04:12:01 PM · #85
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Totalitarian: Anything not compulsory is forbidden.

Thanks -- I couldn't remember that one ...



Message edited by author 2016-11-09 16:32:50.
 11/16/2016 04:52:08 PM · #86
Does Standard Editing allow for adjustments on select portions of an image? For example, can I do the following to just a portion of the image: dodge, burn, adjust contrast, adjust curves, etc?
 11/16/2016 05:17:03 PM · #87
Just replying here as well as to your ticket.

Yes indeed - in all editing rule sets with the exception of Minimal.
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