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05/23/2016 09:29:50 PM · #1
After my reinstallation, everything seems to be working ok. Except...

When I use any SEP 2 filter, it creates the same layer twice, using the first one as the base, so the second one is an additional application of the effect. Neither of these are what I want. I can't figure out how to keep it from creating the second layer.

Also, the SEP no longer shows the sliders by breakdown of color. Only the color filters.

Any ideas?
05/23/2016 09:41:25 PM · #2
SEP2 has two sections, Color Filter and Film Types, which deal with color luminance. The color sliders are under Film Types.

Can't help you with the double layers. You're not accidentally hitting Ctrl/Cmd-F are you? That'll give you a second application.

Message edited by author 2016-05-23 21:42:25.
05/24/2016 12:26:07 AM · #3
I had that once, I think you have to delete a duplicate folder.
05/24/2016 02:04:56 AM · #4
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

SEP2 has two sections, Color Filter and Film Types, which deal with color luminance. The color sliders are under Film Types.


Yup, found it. Thanks.

Originally posted by Paul:

I had that once, I think you have to delete a duplicate folder.


That also worked.

Now, however, the sliders I found under Film type, do not do anything at all. In fact, the only sliders that seem to work are the three at the top: brightness, contrast, and structure
05/24/2016 05:48:25 AM · #5
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

SEP2 has two sections, Color Filter and Film Types, which deal with color luminance. The color sliders are under Film Types.


Yup, found it. Thanks.

Originally posted by Paul:

I had that once, I think you have to delete a duplicate folder.


That also worked.

Now, however, the sliders I found under Film type, do not do anything at all. In fact, the only sliders that seem to work are the three at the top: brightness, contrast, and structure


Just to the left of the Film Types header is a box that should have a check mark in it. If it doesn't then that section is "Off". Check the box and they should work just fine. Same goes for every other title bar - arrow compresses it, box turns it on/off.

And btw, click on the little arrows to the left of the "three at the top" and you'll get 3 or 4 more fine adjustment sliders under each. I went an entire year working with SEP2 before I found that and felt as stupid as I ever have. The tool was great with just the 3, but it's brilliant when you can use everything.

Message edited by author 2016-05-24 05:48:59.
05/24/2016 07:57:52 AM · #6
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

And btw, click on the little arrows to the left of the "three at the top" and you'll get 3 or 4 more fine adjustment sliders under each. I went an entire year working with SEP2 before I found that and felt as stupid as I ever have. The tool was great with just the 3, but it's brilliant when you can use everything.

THAT's making me giggle like a maniac :-)
05/24/2016 08:04:59 AM · #7
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

And btw, click on the little arrows to the left of the "three at the top" and you'll get 3 or 4 more fine adjustment sliders under each. I went an entire year working with SEP2 before I found that and felt as stupid as I ever have. The tool was great with just the 3, but it's brilliant when you can use everything.

THAT's making me giggle like a maniac :-)




;-)
05/24/2016 11:14:09 AM · #8
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

SEP2 has two sections, Color Filter and Film Types, which deal with color luminance. The color sliders are under Film Types.


Yup, found it. Thanks.

Originally posted by Paul:

I had that once, I think you have to delete a duplicate folder.


That also worked.

Now, however, the sliders I found under Film type, do not do anything at all. In fact, the only sliders that seem to work are the three at the top: brightness, contrast, and structure


Just to the left of the Film Types header is a box that should have a check mark in it. If it doesn't then that section is "Off". Check the box and they should work just fine. Same goes for every other title bar - arrow compresses it, box turns it on/off.

And btw, click on the little arrows to the left of the "three at the top" and you'll get 3 or 4 more fine adjustment sliders under each. I went an entire year working with SEP2 before I found that and felt as stupid as I ever have. The tool was great with just the 3, but it's brilliant when you can use everything.


I knew about the lower little arrows, but had no idea about those adjustments under the 3!!!! This should make Bear guffaw :)

But unfortunately, the rest remains the same. I've always had all the little boxes are checked to the left. I've got the little Sensitivity down arrow clicked under Film Types, and none of those sliders does anything.
05/24/2016 11:50:21 AM · #9
Do me a favor and save this image and then open it in SEP2. If the sliders don't do anything then something's wrong.

05/24/2016 12:27:12 PM · #10
Hmmm. That totally worked. I've never had this happen with an image. I wonder wth...????
05/24/2016 12:49:30 PM · #11
Well, at least it's working. If you want to PM me with the picture that's not responding for you I'd be happy to try it out to see if I see anything. Sometimes color can be real faint and seem non-reactive.
05/24/2016 01:21:41 PM · #12
I'm going to tinker with it first, and if I can't figure it out, I'll PM you ;)

Thanks!
05/24/2016 01:27:06 PM · #13
Originally posted by tanguera:

Hmmm. That totally worked. I've never had this happen with an image. I wonder wth...????

Could it be a 16-bit vs. 8-bit issue?
05/24/2016 01:59:05 PM · #14
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by tanguera:

Hmmm. That totally worked. I've never had this happen with an image. I wonder wth...????

Could it be a 16-bit vs. 8-bit issue?


Who knows. I'll post once I figure it out.
05/24/2016 02:23:35 PM · #15
So the simple answer is: I'm an idiot.

Yes. I was working off a b/w original.... I opened the color version and presto! Magic! Everything works.

SMH...
05/24/2016 02:24:23 PM · #16
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by tanguera:

Hmmm. That totally worked. I've never had this happen with an image. I wonder wth...????

Could it be a 16-bit vs. 8-bit issue?


Who knows. I'll post once I figure it out.


It shouldn't since the sliders are luminance adjustments based on hue ranges which will translate to either 8 or 16 bit. Now if it's somehow sending a grayscale image over, that would explain it.

Are you invoking it from Lightroom or Photoshop? If Ps, click on the settings at the bottom of the selective tool frame and make sure that you have Apply filter to: set to "Image Composite" instead of "Active Layer".
05/24/2016 02:25:23 PM · #17
Originally posted by tanguera:

So the simple answer is: I'm an idiot.

Yes. I was working off a b/w original.... I opened the color version and presto! Magic! Everything works.

SMH...


Well at least we can both give Robert a chuckle today. LOL
05/24/2016 02:34:40 PM · #18
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

Originally posted by tanguera:

So the simple answer is: I'm an idiot.

Yes. I was working off a b/w original.... I opened the color version and presto! Magic! Everything works.

SMH...


Well at least we can both give Robert a chuckle today. LOL


Yeah, well... I'm a reliable source for his chuckles...

But I did learn something new about the plug in, so thanks!
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