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07/17/2016 08:57:10 PM · #1
Seriously -- I keep changing the preferences.

I set the history to about 50.

I set the background to light grey.

It crashes. Or I restart my computer.

IT KEEPS LOSING THE PREFERENCES!

It's done this for about a year. So when I goof, and I frequently do (very frequently), I can't go back far enough to undo the goof.

Tonight I've been working on a bunch of "meh" b&w landscapes. I found one I liked. Been working on it for way too long with a stupid headache. Uploaded it to DPC, and it sucked! Went back to photoshop to see what happened.

The dumb background was back to dark grey, and I processed the b&w to look lovely against that. It looks horrid against the light grey.

I hate photoshop sometimes (frequently!)

Ok. You can now return to your regularly scheduled boredom.
07/17/2016 10:25:39 PM · #2
You may have clicked the button under "General" that says "Reset All Preferences on Quit". If you go back into preferences>general you can reset that, if this is the case.
07/18/2016 03:17:54 AM · #3
If I use plug-ins such as Topaz of Tiffen, then I find that on returning to Photoshop the background often changes colour and only a restart will restore it. The plug-in interface seems a bit flakey.
07/18/2016 07:47:46 AM · #4
i don't seem to have that option...

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07/18/2016 08:58:37 AM · #5
Originally posted by vawendy:

i don't seem to have that option...

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What version are you using? It's right next to the Reset All Warnings button in Ps CC 2015.5
07/18/2016 12:21:39 PM · #6
I read this really early this morning and a question popped into my head just now ...
Not that this fixes the prefs issue but instead of going back so far in your history each time, why not (mind you, I have no idea what sort of methods you are using so forgive me if you already do this stuff):
use non-destructive adjustment layers that can be tweaked / adjusted / removed later on
Save the original image in a layer that remains untouched
Use smart objects if applicable
save the PSD file whenever you reach a point of success
Use masks
Run calibration to make sure your color is set up right - the background shouldn't make all the difference with how the final image comes out IMHO
07/18/2016 12:35:43 PM · #7
Originally posted by vawendy:

i don't seem to have that option...

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I don't either. And I've always had the same issues!! It must be CC only. I've got CS6.
07/18/2016 04:43:59 PM · #8
Originally posted by tate:

I read this really early this morning and a question popped into my head just now ...
Not that this fixes the prefs issue but instead of going back so far in your history each time, why not (mind you, I have no idea what sort of methods you are using so forgive me if you already do this stuff):
use non-destructive adjustment layers that can be tweaked / adjusted / removed later on
Save the original image in a layer that remains untouched
Use smart objects if applicable
save the PSD file whenever you reach a point of success
Use masks
Run calibration to make sure your color is set up right - the background shouldn't make all the difference with how the final image comes out IMHO


I asked a lot of these questions in my mind as well. I have to assume that Wendy has been using Ps for a long time. I asked my brother to show me how he processed a particular photo he took and somewhere in the middle of it he introduced me to the Fade command, which I still don't fully understand, that acts to reduce the opacity/effectivity of the last adjustment you make. He told me that it's leftover from the era before adjustment layers. I also found that he spent a lot of time going back in history and using the history brush. I couldn't follow half of what he was doing because it was pure old school photoshop. That said, there was some things with the Fade command that I don't know I could do another way.

And for what it's worth, I don't have any of the issues mentioned and I'm on CC. I still have CS6 on my machine and it does not have the reset button mentioned, just the options in Wendy's screen print.
07/18/2016 05:36:46 PM · #9
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

Originally posted by tate:

I read this really early this morning and a question popped into my head just now ...
Not that this fixes the prefs issue but instead of going back so far in your history each time, why not (mind you, I have no idea what sort of methods you are using so forgive me if you already do this stuff):
use non-destructive adjustment layers that can be tweaked / adjusted / removed later on
Save the original image in a layer that remains untouched
Use smart objects if applicable
save the PSD file whenever you reach a point of success
Use masks
Run calibration to make sure your color is set up right - the background shouldn't make all the difference with how the final image comes out IMHO


I asked a lot of these questions in my mind as well. I have to assume that Wendy has been using Ps for a long time. I asked my brother to show me how he processed a particular photo he took and somewhere in the middle of it he introduced me to the Fade command, which I still don't fully understand, that acts to reduce the opacity/effectivity of the last adjustment you make. He told me that it's leftover from the era before adjustment layers. I also found that he spent a lot of time going back in history and using the history brush. I couldn't follow half of what he was doing because it was pure old school photoshop. That said, there was some things with the Fade command that I don't know I could do another way.

And for what it's worth, I don't have any of the issues mentioned and I'm on CC. I still have CS6 on my machine and it does not have the reset button mentioned, just the options in Wendy's screen print.


I have CS6. So the revert on closing option must be CC. But before updates to system, etc., my photoshop would remember my preferences. It drives me crazy.

I do most things on non-destructive layers, so that's not a problem.

My problem is that I resize it to the 1200, but then I decide I want to do just a few tweaks...

I end up not going back to full size. 20 edits later I save again.

Crap!! I just overwrote my full sized version edit. I can't undo back to before the resize. And I never seem to be able to get the same edits. My chicken on the table shot is my fav. I have it as a 1200 pixel image. And I can't get anywhere near the edit that I had done. :(

That's why I want the 50 levels of history. Because if I just flip back and forth between many blend options, I've messed up.
07/18/2016 05:53:34 PM · #10
Wendy,
I have definitely screwed myself on the size reduction before. Here's how I put that demon to rest for good. I trained myself to *never* resize my PSD. I save a JPEG copy, open that and do my resizing. If I need to go back and do additional edits, I always have that full size PSD. Now granted, I may be beyond my 20-step history, but my M.O. is also to do as much of my editing non-destructively as possible. That way I limit the amount of work I need to do on a re-edit. I do still occasionally fall into the trap of "just a quick destructive edit" and then realize it is more involved than I thought. Each time I do this, it reinforces the attitude to do the right steps, that is non-destructive flow, even if it takes a little more time initially.
07/18/2016 05:58:13 PM · #11
Originally posted by vawendy:

My problem is that I resize it to the 1200, but then I decide I want to do just a few tweaks...

I end up not going back to full size. 20 edits later I save again.

Crap!! I just overwrote my full sized version edit. I can't undo back to before the resize. And I never seem to be able to get the same edits. My chicken on the table shot is my fav. I have it as a 1200 pixel image. And I can't get anywhere near the edit that I had done. :(

That's why I want the 50 levels of history. Because if I just flip back and forth between many blend options, I've messed up.


You need a resize action that spits the resized image into a new JPEG file instead of resizing the original. I have one in a panel that I got from somewhere. If I can decipher the steps I'll post them.

Message edited by author 2016-07-18 17:58:38.
07/22/2016 11:20:54 AM · #12
Yup.
Believe me, you are not the only one. I do this all the time.

Originally posted by vawendy:


My problem is that I resize it to the 1200, but then I decide I want to do just a few tweaks...
07/22/2016 11:28:05 AM · #13
Originally posted by tate:

Yup.
Believe me, you are not the only one. I do this all the time.

Originally posted by vawendy:


My problem is that I resize it to the 1200, but then I decide I want to do just a few tweaks...


I also do this all the time, but I've gotten into the habit of "undoing" the resize. What I typically do is save the latest PSD version I like, resize, "save as", suddenly realize I need to change something, undo, do the edit, save, resize, repeat as needed.

Cumbersome, but it works. It's frustrating that once you save the PSD file you can no longer undo anything.
07/22/2016 11:39:39 AM · #14
This has happened to me for more than a year, so it's hard to train an old dog...

But, I like the idea of creating an action for the resize that includes the Save As. I could probably do that. :)
07/22/2016 11:49:05 AM · #15
Create yourself an Action to do the resize. Two steps...

1. Image -> Duplicate (enter "Image 1200px" as the name, or whatever you want)
2. Image -> Resize: Enter 1200px for the width and choose one of the reduction settings

You'll wind up with a new image at 1200px. If you use a different set of steps for resizing then replace step 2 with those. If you need to fix something close the new image and work on the original.
07/22/2016 01:39:07 PM · #16
Originally posted by tanguera:

It's frustrating that once you save the PSD file you can no longer undo anything.

Not true. You can back up easily in history to an earlier state.
07/22/2016 02:37:28 PM · #17
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by tanguera:

It's frustrating that once you save the PSD file you can no longer undo anything.

Not true. You can back up easily in history to an earlier state.


Exactly, you just can't close it.
07/22/2016 03:24:30 PM · #18
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by tanguera:

It's frustrating that once you save the PSD file you can no longer undo anything.

Not true. You can back up easily in history to an earlier state.


Exactly, you just can't close it.

Oh, right... That's what Smart Filters are for, pretty much...
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