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07/19/2017 12:38:51 AM · #1
Sometimes it is better to enter a shoehorn than shooting for the challenge topic.

I drove to the mountains to get a city view so I could shoot what I had in mind for the White balance challenge. result the brown ribbon.
For the Overwhelming numbers, I picked out a picture I shot before and thinking it could fit with a good title. result yellow ribbon.
07/19/2017 12:57:49 AM · #2
I've not done any research, but I'd bet that your anecdotal example can be extrapolated to show that it IS generally better to shoehorn. But not always...

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07/19/2017 08:37:59 AM · #3
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I've not done any research, but I'd bet that your anecdotal example can be extrapolated to show that it IS generally better to shoehorn. But not always...

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07/19/2017 09:23:42 AM · #4
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Sometimes it is better to enter a shoehorn than shooting for the challenge topic.

I drove to the mountains to get a city view so I could shoot what I had in mind for the White balance challenge. result the brown ribbon.
For the Overwhelming numbers, I picked out a picture I shot before and thinking it could fit with a good title. result yellow ribbon.


Is it reasonable to compare these two entries? Your yellow ribbon subject fit the topic very well, and performed well. Your brown ribbon was for a challenge about camera settings, not subject, and any white balance adjustment made gave results that are difficult to interpret, although I personally like the effect. So comparing these examples doesn't support your general argument.
07/19/2017 01:17:35 PM · #5
The photos I've worked the hardest on usually go south. The one I just got the red ribbon for was the first photo I took for the wrong white balance. I took others after that one, they were sharper but didn't look quite so pretty.
07/19/2017 04:41:22 PM · #6
85% of my entries are shoehorns, (and are received accordingly)
07/19/2017 05:54:25 PM · #7
My entry for white balance was a shoehorn, and if Georges hadn't tried so hard I'd have won the brown. ;-
07/20/2017 05:03:27 AM · #8
The fun of DPC are the challenges we have to accomplish every single time. Sometimes I think for 2 weeks what to do for that given theme and running out of time I even will go out at night to still enter something decent that will fit the challenge.
Once in a while I'll enter a shoehorn but in general I will shoot for each particular challenge.
I know what to take for hands for example. Just need to find time to go out and find what I have in mind.
The good thing is the 2 week submission. I saw a drop of total shoehorn entries. When looking back to old challenges with +300 entries.... well 250 of them, wouldn't get the scores they got then, now.
I think that voters are more demanding for super pictures each time. It's sad to get a 1 on images that are NOT bad. It just makes the contestant less willing to spend time on another entry.
07/20/2017 07:55:01 AM · #9
As a member of the Critique Club, and someone who has entered their fair share of shoehorns esp in my early years here, I find that it's annoying to have to critique an obvious shoehorn. I far prefer to critique an image that at least has made an effort to fit the challenge criteria. I'd far prefer to spend 5 minutes of my precious spare time writing a crit for someone who actually has tried and wants to improve, than waste that time on an image where no thought at all was put into it, esp in terms of challenge suitability.

So, in a nutshell, please...if you are going to deliberately enter a shoehorn...think twice before requesting a critique.

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