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10/30/2017 12:47:13 PM · #1
Originally posted by Tiberius:

I just had a try on topaz (trial). Seems ok but I got so used with Nik that i'm really biased...

My main computer is a WIn10 asus laptop and so far Nik runs smooth and well with the latest Adobe PS&LR combo.

I also tired just for fun to see how long it would take to achieve same results with just PS PP and it's tough. Not to mention that it's hard to match the effects

I get the frustrations of those who can't use it anymore.


Lightroom upgrade removes the executable files, but leaves any folders with your content (presets, etc)
10/26/2017 05:21:02 PM · #2
Originally posted by Manic:

It appears that DxO has bought the NIK collection from Google, so we should finally see updates start happening again... though it probably won't remain free.

https://nikcollection.dxo.com


I loved the NIK collection enough to buy it, then it became free, which is great. Because I do not partake in a lot of photography these days I left the Adobe lot and put my money into PaintShop pro 2018 Ultimate edition as they gave me a large discount. Nik plugins work just fine with that.

I can see DxO charging for future releases.

10/25/2017 09:30:42 AM · #3
Interesting news. I wonder if they will keep it going or just assimilate it into their own pre-existing software? I know they mention a 2018 version, but it seems unlikely they will develop two similar products in the future. In any case, it means we can all breathe again :)
Thanks for sharing

Message edited by author 2017-10-25 09:31:17.
10/25/2017 09:12:58 AM · #4
It appears that DxO has bought the NIK collection from Google, so we should finally see updates start happening again... though it probably won't remain free.

https://nikcollection.dxo.com
10/10/2017 07:42:26 AM · #5
Thank you so much Kees. I appreciata a lot you effort to help me out of this electronic maze.
I am using so far the previous system, Yosemite, with Nik with Ps4.
In the near future I'll try to sort out High Sierra and its implications, but I left it sleep now because it was not woking faster for some obscure reason.
10/09/2017 11:33:21 PM · #6
@MariucaYesterday I visited my brother-in-law and I worked on his MacBook with High Sierra installed. He has Lightroom 5.7 and on my request he downloaded and installed NIK Collection and it worked fine (only the first time we tried to open Efex Color the program closed because of an error, but afterwards no problems.)

So maybe itís the combination of the newest Mac OS and your older Photoshop version thatís causing the problems with NIK?
10/04/2017 04:18:34 AM · #7
FYI I am running Photoshop CC with the full set of Nik plugins and the full set of Topaz plugins with no issues.
I also have Photoshop CC 2015 with the full set of Nik plugins and the full set of Topaz plugins with no issues.

Windows 10

However Photoshop CC 2017 not playing nicely and only a few plugins from each appear to be working for me.

10/04/2017 03:21:05 AM · #8
I just had a try on topaz (trial). Seems ok but I got so used with Nik that i'm really biased...

My main computer is a WIn10 asus laptop and so far Nik runs smooth and well with the latest Adobe PS&LR combo.

I also tired just for fun to see how long it would take to achieve same results with just PS PP and it's tough. Not to mention that it's hard to match the effects

I get the frustrations of those who can't use it anymore.
10/03/2017 06:07:51 PM · #9
Originally posted by GeneralE:

If these function as Photoshop plug-ins, then the other question is whether Adobe changes its architecture for handling those. In the past they were pretty good about maintaining backward-compatibility, but I don't know how it is with the CC versions.

Thatís an important issue as well. For me this is exactly the reason why I donít want the CC versions of Adobe, you never know what happens after one of the regular updates. Iíd rather stick to Photoshop Elements and Lightroom versions for a couple of years before changing to a newer version.
10/03/2017 05:47:00 PM · #10
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by Kroburg:


Richard, thank you for updating your experiences with NIK on your Apple computer. Iím in the process of making a final decision about what system to use in future: Microsoft or Apple. My heart goes out to Apple, but when it is clear NIK is not going to work under the newest IOS, it might change my mind and make me choose a Windows machine.

I hope other members with good or bad experiences re this matter will post in this thread as well.

Do you believe it will be any different with Windows machines, since it is Google who are no longer updating the NIK collection in the future? I would think the situation would be the same whichever operating system is used

If these function as Photoshop plug-ins, then the other question is whether Adobe changes its architecture for handling those. In the past they were pretty good about maintaining backward-compatibility, but I don't know how it is with the CC versions.


I know one day it will stop working. But on this moment it works fine with Windows 10 and my Adobe software. Therefore it can be an important reason to stick with Windows (but only when I know for sure it isnít working on Apple systems)
10/03/2017 05:42:05 PM · #11
Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by Kroburg:


Richard, thank you for updating your experiences with NIK on your Apple computer. Iím in the process of making a final decision about what system to use in future: Microsoft or Apple. My heart goes out to Apple, but when it is clear NIK is not going to work under the newest IOS, it might change my mind and make me choose a Windows machine.

I hope other members with good or bad experiences re this matter will post in this thread as well.

Do you believe it will be any different with Windows machines, since it is Google who are no longer updating the NIK collection in the future? I would think the situation would be the same whichever operating system is used

If these function as Photoshop plug-ins, then the other question is whether Adobe changes its architecture for handling those. In the past they were pretty good about maintaining backward-compatibility, but I don't know how it is with the CC versions.
10/03/2017 05:35:18 PM · #12
Originally posted by Kroburg:


Richard, thank you for updating your experiences with NIK on your Apple computer. Iím in the process of making a final decision about what system to use in future: Microsoft or Apple. My heart goes out to Apple, but when it is clear NIK is not going to work under the newest IOS, it might change my mind and make me choose a Windows machine.

I hope other members with good or bad experiences re this matter will post in this thread as well.

Do you believe it will be any different with Windows machines, since it is Google who are no longer updating the NIK collection in the future? I would think the situation would be the same whichever operating system is used
10/03/2017 03:55:22 PM · #13
Originally posted by hahn23:

Just to be fair, High Sierra MacOS 10.13 did dramatically improve speed and efficiency on my system. And, I have full use of Nik Collection on LrCC 2015.12 and PsCC 2017.1.1. I've used all to edit images this morning, with absolutely no slowdown or difficulty. The system and software reacts in an instantaneous manner... as fast as I can hit the keys. I'm adding this comment to this forum thread, because it simply isn't true that everyone will lose their Nik Collection, if they upgrade. I expect to have the Nik Collection for many years to come on the most recent releases from Apple MacOS and Adobe CC.


Richard, thank you for updating your experiences with NIK on your Apple computer. Iím in the process of making a final decision about what system to use in future: Microsoft or Apple. My heart goes out to Apple, but when it is clear NIK is not going to work under the newest IOS, it might change my mind and make me choose a Windows machine.

I hope other members with good or bad experiences re this matter will post in this thread as well.
10/03/2017 03:19:27 PM · #14
Originally posted by hahn23:


Just to be fair, High Sierra MacOS 10.13 did dramatically improve speed and efficiency on my system. And, I have full use of Nik Collection on LrCC 2015.12 and PsCC 2017.1.1. I've used all to edit images this morning, with absolutely no slowdown or difficulty. The system and software reacts in an instantaneous manner... as fast as I can hit the keys. I'm adding this comment to this forum thread, because it simply isn't true that everyone will lose their Nik Collection, if they upgrade. I expect to have the Nik Collection for many years to come on the most recent releases from Apple MacOS and Adobe CC.

Now, there are minimum system requirements for the new MacOS... If you don't meet the minimum requirements, then your only choice is to revert to older, less safe, OS.

Do you really think the Nik apps will continue to work with future versions of Adobe CC, even though Google have said they are not going to do any further updates?

I didn't panic when Apple withdrew Aperture and I still use it on a daily basis, but I'm also aware that one of these days it will stop working. This is a little bit how I feel it will go with Nik. Fingers crossed that's not any day soon.
10/03/2017 12:43:04 PM · #15
Originally posted by mariuca:

FYI - how I sorted it out for now:

- High Sierra OS 10.13 did not brig but endless problems. ...


Just to be fair, High Sierra MacOS 10.13 did dramatically improve speed and efficiency on my system. And, I have full use of Nik Collection on LrCC 2015.12 and PsCC 2017.1.1. I've used all to edit images this morning, with absolutely no slowdown or difficulty. The system and software reacts in an instantaneous manner... as fast as I can hit the keys. I'm adding this comment to this forum thread, because it simply isn't true that everyone will lose their Nik Collection, if they upgrade. I expect to have the Nik Collection for many years to come on the most recent releases from Apple MacOS and Adobe CC.

Now, there are minimum system requirements for the new MacOS... If you don't meet the minimum requirements, then your only choice is to revert to older, less safe, OS.
10/03/2017 10:57:11 AM · #16
FYI - how I sorted it out for now:

- High Sierra OS 10.13 did not brig but endless problems. It did not improve the speed and I was advised only to have patience (?)
- I had a bootable HD and will go back to it using Yosemite and NIK color and silver efex with Ps C5as before until....don't know

Conclusion:
I don't know what I'll do in the future.
I have topaz also but it seems overwhelming to me with way too many possibilities and info and having Ps I wonder if it's really needed
Yes 30861.gif Bear_Music, I like topaz B&W - I'll keep it on the back burner
10/01/2017 09:06:26 PM · #17
Originally posted by mariuca:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

I'd be lost without my NIK... Currently I have System Version macOS 10.12.6 (16G29). You have me worried. I do have CS6... will I be ok if it upgrades?


I have no idea. According to what I read in the NIK collection, it iS NOT compatible with system 10.12 or Ps CS 4-6 just with Ps CC
21.gif hahn23 has a different experience though that I cannot match it.
I got topaz; interesting but not so easy or fast than NIK
30861.gif Bear_Music is right about topaz B&W - seems nice. I never used Lr. Any advice on it?


I just searched in YouTube for Lightroom B&W tutorials...thereís a boatload!!!
10/01/2017 08:48:13 PM · #18
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

I'd be lost without my NIK... Currently I have System Version macOS 10.12.6 (16G29). You have me worried. I do have CS6... will I be ok if it upgrades?


I have no idea. According to what I read in the NIK collection, it iS NOT compatible with system 10.12 or Ps CS 4-6 just with Ps CC
21.gif hahn23 has a different experience though that I cannot match it.
I got topaz; interesting but not so easy or fast than NIK
30861.gif Bear_Music is right about topaz B&W - seems nice. I never used Lr. Any advice on it?
09/30/2017 11:20:54 PM · #19
Originally posted by mariuca:

Lynn,
I copied from NIK collection:
"The Nik Collection is free and compatible with Mac OS X 10.7 through 10.10; Windows Vista, 7, 8; and Adobe Photoshop through CC 2015. We have no plans to update the Collection or add new features over time."

I have now OS 10.13 High Sierra
I do have a bootable HD and could use NIK but it will be a drag.
Nothing is forever so I said today goodby to NIK with tears in my eyes


oh dear.So I guess Google decided this? I still have my art filter though.

And I haven't turned off my machine in a few days... I guess it could go a few more:) .
09/30/2017 10:51:54 PM · #20
Mariuca, so sad. Hard to imagine editing without NIK. It appears we'll all have to move off NIK at some point.
09/30/2017 10:04:48 PM · #21
Lynn,
I copied from NIK collection:
"The Nik Collection is free and compatible with Mac OS X 10.7 through 10.10; Windows Vista, 7, 8; and Adobe Photoshop through CC 2015. We have no plans to update the Collection or add new features over time."

I have now OS 10.13 High Sierra
I do have a bootable HD and could use NIK but it will be a drag.
Nothing is forever so I said today goodby to NIK with tears in my eyes

Message edited by author 2017-09-30 22:09:07.
09/30/2017 09:56:32 PM · #22
I thought Mariuca said she uses CS4
09/30/2017 09:33:08 PM · #23
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

I'd be lost without my NIK... Currently I have System Version macOS 10.12.6 (16G29). You have me worried. I do have CS6... will I be ok if it upgrades?


I don't think you get upgrades for CS6. I thought they stopped updates for previous versions. Only PsCC will be effected because this wasn't just a little bug fix. They replaced the operating system with the new one (PsCC 2017 vs PsCC 2015)
09/30/2017 08:44:30 PM · #24
I'd be lost without my NIK... Currently I have System Version macOS 10.12.6 (16G29). You have me worried. I do have CS6... will I be ok if it upgrades?
09/30/2017 08:14:14 PM · #25

Update of the panic saga:
1. cleaned the PRAM. ( alt-command+p+r )
2. Shut off everything, unplugged, waited 5 minutes, restarted and voila! Works faster. This was an advice from a blog dealing with sluggish High Sierra.
Miraculous!

Lost NIK - got a trial of topaz basic. Seems more complicated than NIK. I wonder if I need it at all or stay with Photoshop CS4 only (for I feel so very tired).

Thanks folks

PS. Richard it seems that you have an entire factory! Cannot compare with you

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