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 12/23/2004 06:59:47 PM · #1
I am so unbelievable confused right now. I have never dealt with prints and frames before, but I didn't think it would be this confusing. Okay, an 8x10 print measures eight inches by ten inches. It does because I just had an 8x10 print made at Target, and I measured it: 8x10 just like it should be.

Then I went to the picture frame department to get an 8x10 frame to put the picture in. I saw some nice 8x10 frames. I had the picture with me, so I put the picture up to the frames and saw that there was a lot of excess picture. The 8x10 picture would not fit in the 8x10 frames. So I went and got a ruler to measure the 8x10 (you know where I'm going with this don't you?) frames. Hmmm, these aren't 8x10 at all, they're more like 7 1/2 x 9 1/2.

How does this make sense? It must because I have a feeling it has been like this for quite some time. It's kind of like the 10 hotdogs and 8 buns phenomenon. I would like to have this picture framed by tomorrow, but the process is not as strait forward as I thought. I guess when you create a photograph, the outer 1/2 inch must have nothing of significance?

I'm feeling pretty stupid right now, because I assume the rest of the world understands this, and I'm out of the loop.

I have another semi-related question too, but I'll save it for another post.

Thank you for any explaination you might have.

Mark
 12/23/2004 07:05:15 PM · #2
Often the area displayed in the glass, or the mat in the glass, is small enough so the edges, which may not be perfect, are covered. Odds are, the are to place the picture into is large enough to accomodate the size.
 12/23/2004 07:29:47 PM · #3
Thank you, but it still doesn't make any sense to me. I can see why you would cover the edges, but a whole half an inch (1/4 inch on all sides) of your picture? Why not just a 16th, or 8th of an inch? The paper this print is on is 8 1/2 x 12 so that excess can be cut down, and the outer edge of the blank paper, not the picture, should be covered. Anyway, I guess the bottom line is you really do have to make sure nothing on the outer 1/4 inch of your photo has any meaning? Be careful when cropping.

Mark
 12/23/2004 07:43:10 PM · #4
can't give you a solid answer (since i'm away from my apartment for a few weeks) via measuring, but i do know that the 32x20 print i bought recently from art.com fits perfectly into the 32x20 frame i bought from aaron brothers - no excess space and the frame doesn't really overlap the print either. also, the 15.75x9.75 (weird dimensions, i know) print i bought nearly perfectly fits into the 16x10 frame i bought from aaron brothers. i'm guessing the discrepancy you're seeing may just be the fault of a cheap frame maker.

p.s. a print i bought a long time ago from some site (can't remember) at 8x10 size also fits perfectly into my aaron brothers 8x10 frame. not that you need AB to have a fitting frame, but try looking at different manufacturers.

Message edited by author 2004-12-23 19:51:51.
 12/23/2004 07:46:55 PM · #5
I got a few frames from Aaron brother ( 8x12 and 11x14 with matt to fit 8x10 ) and they fit perfectly for my prints.

Message edited by author 2004-12-23 20:16:31.
 12/23/2004 07:51:08 PM · #6
I agree with Brianlh. I just bought a couple decent frames for an Xmas gift today and they measure up perfectly. One frame was a 8x10 and the other was a 4x6. They were only 15.00 USD each. First attempt with my pics to make an 8x10 and it looks great. My grandfather will be very happy.
 12/23/2004 08:03:36 PM · #7
Hi, Mark! I hope you'll post later on whether or not another maker's frame worked. I have found most to fit as far as inserting the photo, but I have disliked some whose borders crept into the center and still ended up covering a good 1/4 or 1/2" of my picture. Good luck! And I am glad we can post our questions here without getting rediculed when we think the rest of the world knows and we are the only one who doesn't! I have been there many times!!
 12/23/2004 09:14:23 PM · #8
Originally posted by Kylie:
I have found most to fit as far as inserting the photo, but I have disliked some whose borders crept into the center and still ended up covering a good 1/4 or 1/2" of my picture. Good luck! And I am glad we can post our questions here without getting rediculed when we think the rest of the world knows and we are the only one who doesn't! I have been there many times!!


I like using floater frames to solve this problem :P
 12/23/2004 09:24:05 PM · #9
I made an 8x10 print at target and got the frame there too. You're right about the cropping of about 1/4 inch on every side, but in my case, it seemed to work just fine. The frame I picked had a lot of matting though so maybe that's why -- I'd measure to be exact, but it's wrapped up for my Mom.

I figured it must be like that everywhere, but apparently it isn't? I also thought about maybe just (in the future) printing the 8x10, getting a large glass frame and get some matting from a craft store and cutting it muself.
 12/23/2004 10:00:11 PM · #10
Well, after I made my last post I just went right back to target (I'm running out of time) and bought a frame. I figured that's the way it was, and that there's nothing I can do about it. The frame is 7 1/2 x 9 1/2, although it says 8x10. I didn't measure all of the frames they had. They have a ton.

While I was in Thailand I bought a frame there from a vender in a street market, 8x10. When I got home, I discovered that it was 7 1/2 x 9 1/2. At the time I thought that was just because I got it from a street vender in Thailand. But after I saw the frames at Target, coupled with the frame from Thailand, I really thought that is the way it is. But now I come home and see these new posts saying the frame should match up with the picture.

I don't have time tonight, but possibly tomorrow to see if I can find one that is proper.

Thank you all for your responses.

Mark
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