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05/07/2005 12:33:14 PM · #1
if say there are 200 views, but only 100 votes, why doesn't everybody that views, vote?

curious, with a touch of a headache?
05/07/2005 12:35:09 PM · #2
Many may be 2nd views, I myself may look through 2 or 3 times.
05/07/2005 12:49:14 PM · #3
Every time someone goes back to an entry and changes their vote, that counts as another view but not another vote.
05/07/2005 12:51:37 PM · #4
OH!

Not curious any more, and my headache is gone.

Thanks.
05/07/2005 12:53:15 PM · #5
Whenever I have a high views-to-votes ratio, I take this as an indication I've done my "job"; my image is bringing people back for more and more views. It may not score well, but it has people coming back, and this is good.

In member challenges, the ratio is usally quite a lot higher, because everyone can look but only members can vote.

So it's in the open challenges that a high ratio of views-to-votes is particularly satisfying. I pretty well expect it in member challenges. Anyway, in my experience at least, the closer to unity the views-to-votes ratio is, the lower the image scores.

Robt.
05/07/2005 01:00:04 PM · #6
Originally posted by bear_music:

Whenever I have a high views-to-votes ratio, I take this as an indication I've done my "job"; my image is bringing people back for more and more views. It may not score well, but it has people coming back, and this is good.



Excellent point. Nice point of view. I shall remember that.
05/07/2005 01:15:13 PM · #7
Originally posted by bear_music:

Whenever I have a high views-to-votes ratio, I take this as an indication I've done my "job"; my image is bringing people back for more and more views. It may not score well, but it has people coming back, and this is good.

In member challenges, the ratio is usally quite a lot higher, because everyone can look but only members can vote.

So it's in the open challenges that a high ratio of views-to-votes is particularly satisfying. I pretty well expect it in member challenges. Anyway, in my experience at least, the closer to unity the views-to-votes ratio is, the lower the image scores.

Robt.


This is a wierd phenomenum as my lowest scorers always get the most views, even after the contest. I had one that finished three from the bottom and it received the most comments and views of any of my entries. In other words bear, controversy is publicity and publicity, good or bad, is always good.
05/07/2005 01:33:44 PM · #8
Originally posted by neophyte:

Originally posted by bear_music:

Whenever I have a high views-to-votes ratio, I take this as an indication I've done my "job"; my image is bringing people back for more and more views. It may not score well, but it has people coming back, and this is good.

In member challenges, the ratio is usally quite a lot higher, because everyone can look but only members can vote.

So it's in the open challenges that a high ratio of views-to-votes is particularly satisfying. I pretty well expect it in member challenges. Anyway, in my experience at least, the closer to unity the views-to-votes ratio is, the lower the image scores.

Robt.


This is a wierd phenomenum as my lowest scorers always get the most views, even after the contest. I had one that finished three from the bottom and it received the most comments and views of any of my entries. In other words bear, controversy is publicity and publicity, good or bad, is always good.


Yes, this is true for the very low-scoring images. I'm speaking more of the run-of-the-mill shots, the high-4's and low-5's; these get relatively few views, for me. One of my highest-viewed-ever images was my "self-portrait-as-raindrop", which took 65 1's, arguably the most 1's ever given to a technically proficient and aesthetically sound image on DPC :-)

Robt.


05/07/2005 01:38:28 PM · #9
If you are in a member challenge the views are always much more than votes. Registered users do view the images, but don't vote on member challenges.
05/07/2005 03:33:56 PM · #10
I remember seeing that shot and I commented on that photo. You're right though, Really high scoring or low scoring photos get the most comments. Controversy is..........

Message edited by author 2005-05-07 15:34:21.
05/07/2005 04:20:47 PM · #11
Originally posted by swinging_johnson_v1:

if say there are 200 views, but only 100 votes, why doesn't everybody that views, vote?

curious, with a touch of a headache?

I think many people just vote on bad photos because everytime I have higher score many more people just look at my photo and not vote.
05/07/2005 04:25:02 PM · #12
I love having more views than votes -- I take it to mean that people are looking again and having to think about the photo. If they do that, I don't care what score they give it or whether they "like" it.
05/07/2005 06:03:42 PM · #13
I think there are to many intervening variables to really draw any serious conclusions. You have 1)member vs open, 2)good vs mediocre vs poor quality image, 3)# of submissions in challenge(I think this is a major contributing factor), I'm sure there are those that look at the whole page and open only the ones that catch their eye, which would suggest 4) a brighter image will be viewed more often. It seems to me that good images and poor images would be more likely to receive a vote when viewed (Who can view and not vote on a superb image, or one that is out of focus, subject is centered and poorly exposed? I can't)

I,for one, have started leaving considerably more constructive and supportive comments than I used to. I often view and skip mediocre/average images (like most of my entries) to afford me the time to leave comments where it might be helpful, such as newbies that don't quite understand basic composition, and, to praise that outstanding image.

So, in a nutshell, what determines the views vs votes ratio?

Hell if I know.


05/07/2005 06:46:37 PM · #14
Originally posted by dewed:

I think there are to many intervening variables to really draw any serious conclusions. You have 1)member vs open, 2)good vs mediocre vs poor quality image, 3)# of submissions in challenge(I think this is a major contributing factor), I'm sure there are those that look at the whole page and open only the ones that catch their eye, which would suggest 4) a brighter image will be viewed more often. It seems to me that good images and poor images would be more likely to receive a vote when viewed (Who can view and not vote on a superb image, or one that is out of focus, subject is centered and poorly exposed? I can't) I still think when people see a photo who is a threat to themselves to win they did not vote on it because when I have very low scores almost everyone votes and when I have votes over 6,0 only half of the wiewer votes. Thats the thruth.

I,for one, have started leaving considerably more constructive and supportive comments than I used to. I often view and skip mediocre/average images (like most of my entries) to afford me the time to leave comments where it might be helpful, such as newbies that don't quite understand basic composition, and, to praise that outstanding image.

So, in a nutshell, what determines the views vs votes ratio?

Hell if I know.
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