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03/12/2006 05:36:11 AM · #1 |
The looming presence of the DSLR community is hitting the point and shooters at DPC on an ever increasing scale. We only have to look at the top twenty of past challenges to see that our numbers and position of status is slipping here at DPC. It seems apparent that there is an ever increasing trend to mock us, to sneer at us, patronise us, and to even feel sorry for us from the DSLR community. No longer will we take this! No longer will we feel shame, nor envy, whilst brandishing our Point and shoot in the company of DSLR owners.
We declare our right on this earth...to be a point and shooter, to be respected as a point and shooter, to be given the rights of a point and shooter in this community, on this earth, in this day, which we intend to bring into existence by any means that we can.
A DSLR new world order is in the making, and it is up to us to prepare ourselves that we, as point and shooters, may take our rightful place in it.
Join me brothers and sisters in *Raising a fist* in support of the Point and shoot movement. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition as point and shooters in this community. Be cautious though, We must prepare ourselves brothers and sisters, there will be many DSLR owners who will attempt to engulf our movement for it to lose its original flavour, anger, and energy.
VIVA LA POINT AND SHOOT!!!
*RAISED FIST*
;-)
Oh, and for the likes of Deapee and such, there is really really no need to burst a blood vessel or have a stroke...ok? ;)
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03/12/2006 05:46:19 AM · #2 |
Way to go!
Chuckle - regardless of the technology to my mind it is the framing of the picture, the capturing of the image that is the basis of a good photograph. Does it itell a story? Does it grab you?
For sure, DSLRs and good lenses can get you closer/further away/wider and all sorts and maybe allow you to capture a shot that a P&S would struggle with. But it is the image that counts.
I still carry my P&S with me when I cannot carry the big guy - and even the phone camera is pressed into service to capture a moment.
RAISED FIST & BOWED HEAD: TO THE IMAGE!
Carl
PS I have only ever used a SLR and not a DSLR so I probably do not know of what I speak! :-P |
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03/12/2006 08:06:21 AM · #3 |
A camera is just a tool. The photographer is the key.
Just as the chef is the key in making a great dish.
TO continue the analogy, a dSLR is a gourmet kitchen, a p&s is a hot plate in a dorm room. I suppose Bobby Flay could make a gourmet meal on that hotplate just as Mike Colon could capture your wedding day on a p&s. But the results would be lower, and the effort to do so higher.
We dSLR owners are not snobs, are not taking over. We have seen the light brother, and dSLRs are good, very good. Try one and you'll see. Come, follow me the land of enlightenment! Be a convert, see the light!
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03/12/2006 08:40:12 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
... a dSLR is a gourmet kitchen, a p&s is a hot plate in a dorm room... |
I prefer my dorm room to your gourmet kitchen anytime...lets compare shots in the square crop challenge then you might eat your gourmet words! |
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03/12/2006 08:49:51 AM · #5 |
I had a Fujifilm before I had my Canon and I did 9 weddings with my Fujifilm - Very nice quality photos. Had it for years - Only now that I am expanding did I get the Canon. Nothing wrong with smaller point and shoot cameras. Lots of times I use my Canon as a point and shoot (Still learning the nice goodie functions.
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03/12/2006 08:53:08 AM · #6 |
| Of my 5 top rated images, 3 are from my old Oly P/S camera. It took me a year and a half with the Rebel to beat them. It's not in the camera... |
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03/12/2006 09:05:09 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by TooCool:
It's not in the camera... |
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03/12/2006 09:25:04 AM · #8 |
Brothers and Sisters, you can see the fear in their eyes already with their fearful whiney pleas of "My best camera was a point and shoot"..."Its not the camera that matters"...yadda yadda yadda. The movement doesn't want to hear it.
Do you really think that the point and shooters are so stupid not to realise that it isn't the camera that matters? Again, brothers and sisters, DSLR owners condescending the point and shooters. We won't stand for it...oh no...!
;-)
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03/12/2006 09:29:23 AM · #9 |
Lets stand together against this Point and shoot movement - WE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE - wait for it (....Drumroll...) OPPOSITION.
We have way more megapixels and fancy gadget to stop them with; Let them come - but be warned - YOU WILL LOOSE - and we will photograpf your cheese covered backsides as you run away. (Fotomann will supply the cheese...)
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03/12/2006 09:35:33 AM · #10 |
| It seems to be taking me a long time to master my digital Rebel....the canon A-95 is my faithful companion, many times seems to do a better job. As I say, have not mastered the big "Canon Ball" The equipment is important but you are the artist ! |
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03/12/2006 09:38:30 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by patio127:
It seems to be taking me a long time to master my digital Rebel....the canon A-95 is my faithful companion, many times seems to do a better job. As I say, have not mastered the big "Canon Ball" The equipment is important but you are the artist ! |
Don't suck up to the P&S crowd - They want a digital war. Lets meet them Head on Pixel. Either you are in or out.
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03/12/2006 09:56:10 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by MrEd:
Originally posted by TooCool:
It's not in the camera... |
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I'd agree! I have often thought about retreating back to my simple Kodak DC290. My top two rated photos were done more than a year ago on that P&S! |
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03/12/2006 10:12:53 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
We dSLR owners are not snobs |
Most are not, some are.
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03/12/2006 10:24:01 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by WaysOfSeeing:
Oh, and for the likes of Deapee and such, there is really really no need to burst a blood vessel or have a stroke...ok? ;) |
huh? You got a problem, send me a PM bro...I'm assuming you're joking around, that's cool I suppose.
Why would I get involved in something like this? Apparently you feel 'inadequate' because of your gear -- that's a personal problem. Never would I say that just because of your gear you are incapable of 'belonging' to, or being recognized for greatness in, this, or any other community.
Perhaps the folks with the dslr's just take things more seriously, perhaps they think about their shots before taking them more, perhaps they shoot more shots, so they have more to choose from. Whatever the reason, as has been mentioned previously in this post, it's certainly not the fact that you're shooting with a P&S camera...when it comes to creativity, lighting, composition, and overall good photography, you either have it, or you don't, and no matter the camera, if you have it, people will know you have it.
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03/12/2006 10:30:10 AM · #15 |
| I'm a defender of the P&S world. My liitle Oly ROCKS!!! Having said that, I just bought my first DSLR a week ago but haven't had a chance to really try it out yet. I feel like a trader!! I hope I learn to love it........... |
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03/12/2006 12:19:43 PM · #16 |
My average hasn't gotten any better since I got the 20D, that's for sure. Over half my challenge entries have been shot with the "big gun" and only two of my top ten images were made with it. I sort of miss the Coolpix 5700, and the way it forced me to get creative in post-processing to mask its resolution flaws.
Robt.
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03/12/2006 12:22:41 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
My average hasn't gotten any better since I got the 20D, that's for sure. Over half my challenge entries have been shot with the "big gun" and only two of my top ten images were made with it. I sort of miss the Coolpix 5700, and the way it forced me to get creative in post-processing to mask its resolution flaws.
Robt. |
And that is the reason I've kept the 8700 :-) Not to mention it's miraculous macro mode.
Message edited by author 2006-03-12 12:23:06.
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03/12/2006 12:26:20 PM · #18 |
| My only top 10 finish was made using an old Canon Powershot Pro90 which has less than 3 megapixel resolution. Still like that camera! |
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03/12/2006 12:43:11 PM · #19 |
what about peeps that have both ? :-)
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03/12/2006 12:44:53 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by gooc:
what about peeps that have both ? :-) |
As far as versitility goes I need a few more lenses for the 300D to catch up with the Nikon 8700.
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03/12/2006 12:52:25 PM · #21 |
I , for one, thought this site was about learning and sharing digital photography.
I am really not digging this movement. The feeling used to always be more about the photograph, many people would sight JJ as an example as someone who ribboned many times with a P & S. I found it a great empowering learning envirornment.
Now it seems, since I can not afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a DSLR, I and other p&S users, are being continually slagged off as ot getting it, or being stupid enough to settle for less.
I have a couple of mentors here, who are dslr users, but dont write me off for not having one myself. Thats what this site used to be about. |
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03/12/2006 01:03:19 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
I have a couple of mentors here, who are dslr users, but dont write me off for not having one myself. Thats what this site used to be about. |
Well, you've certainly never heard ME put down anybody for "only" having a P&S... Are there really that many who do, or are they just very vocal? Ignore 'em...
R.
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03/12/2006 01:08:57 PM · #23 |
You know, P&S cameras have several advantages over dSLR's.
1. Greater DoF is more forgiving of focus errors.
2. Lenses are usually very versatile in range. The 8700 for instance goes from about 28mm to 300mm equivalents - not a bad range.
3. Most have more Modes than dSLR, everything from Landscape, to Portrait, to Fireworks are programmed into the cameras setting. Works out nicely when you just want to get the photo.
4. Lightweight and portable. Most can be taken everywhere.
5. Most importantly, affordable. You can't fall in love with photography, if you can't affford the equipment.
6. NO SENSOR DUST! Enough said... LOL
I could keep this list going forever. I don't like that P&S users feel singled-out. I've been one for quite some time in the digital world and I still won't be giving up mine anytime soon.
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03/12/2006 01:39:25 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
I have a couple of mentors here, who are dslr users, but dont write me off for not having one myself. Thats what this site used to be about. |
Well, you've certainly never heard ME put down anybody for "only" having a P&S... Are there really that many who do, or are they just very vocal? Ignore 'em...
R. |
NO No, dear Bear! Not you...and you are right, they probably are the most vocal :)
I dont need to defend my P&s, I know its not great. But until I know it is worth spending a months rent on a camera, I want to learn about many things, such as lighting, composition, etc.
Do I long for a sexy Canon dslr? Of course I do...but for now this will have to do.
Maybe we should have a P&S only challenge...just a thought |
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03/12/2006 01:48:19 PM · #25 |
| Muhahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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