Learning Thread � Landscape Photography

05/25/2006 01:26:11 AM · #626

Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Can't speak for Rikki, but I'm holding out for a nice DPC gal to be "grateful" for one-on-one attention teaching her photoshop. ;) LOL!!!

You can teach me some tricks and I'll be "grateful" (but maybe not in the way you mean it) and I'm a girl but I don't know about nice...

My philosophy is not to sweat the small stuff. What would you like to know?

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

05/25/2006 01:30:38 AM · #627

You know it saddens me to read that Rikki is referring to this technique as "hyper processing" when it should be called "Rikki processing" or Rikkized/Rikkied for short. Just think of the royalties my friend! :P

Message edited by author 2006-05-25 01:35:44.

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

05/25/2006 01:48:17 AM · #628

Originally posted by yanko:

It is my understanding that he wanted to call it "Hyper Rikkied" and that his motto was going to be "Get Rikkied" but law enforcement officials misunderstood and now he is under house arrest and has to wear an ankle tracking bracelet.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

05/25/2006 01:52:16 AM · #629

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Originally posted by yanko:
You know it saddens me to read that Rikki is referring to this technique as "hyper processing" when it should be called "Rikki processing" or Rikkized/Rikkied for short. Just think of the royalties my friend! :P

It is my understanding that he wanted to call it "Hyper Rikkied" and that his motto was going to be "Get Rikkied" but law enforcement officials misunderstood and now he is under house arrest and has to wear an ankle tracking bracelet.

It's actually me that coined the term (hyper-processing, that is) earlier. I don't really think Rikki wants to take credit in any way for "inventing" this as it's been around for quite a while. He just got interested in it, does it a lot, does it well, and people asked him to share how, so he's kindly done so in our wonderful thread.

(wink)

R.

Message edited by author 2006-05-25 01:52:55.

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

05/25/2006 02:01:56 AM · #630

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Originally posted by yanko:
You know it saddens me to read that Rikki is referring to this technique as "hyper processing" when it should be called "Rikki processing" or Rikkized/Rikkied for short. Just think of the royalties my friend! :P

It is my understanding that he wanted to call it "Hyper Rikkied" and that his motto was going to be "Get Rikkied" but law enforcement officials misunderstood and now he is under house arrest and has to wear an ankle tracking bracelet.

It's actually me that coined the term (hyper-processing, that is) earlier. I don't really think Rikki wants to take credit in any way for "inventing" this...

Heck, I wouldn't want to take credit for it either if I had to wear an ankle tracking bracelet because of it. Sounds like they got the wrong guy. ;)

rblanton

Canon EOS-10D

05/25/2006 02:55:57 AM · #631

Hyper

Original

May have overdone it, but it was fun.

Elmakias

Canon EOS-5D

Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR

05/25/2006 01:14:55 PM · #632

wow, thats amazing, im definatly trying that out when i get home

Prism

Pentax K-30

05/25/2006 06:19:59 PM · #633

my first edit

gone hyper...

Mostly followed the steps posted by Rikki but also added a brightness/contrast adjustment layer and levels adjustment layer.

justin_hewlett

Canon EOS-1000D Rebel XS

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

05/25/2006 10:08:32 PM · #634

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Out of 2,500 images I've post processed in PS I think I've probably used gradients only a handful of times

I learned the technique from Bear, and once I saw the power of it I've never gone back. It really helps, especially if you've got a plain blue sky with no clouds.

05/25/2006 10:12:46 PM · #635

Originally posted by Prism:

Thanks for giving my grain elevators a shot at this a while back, Bear. I tried that one but decided to use a different shot that was easier to select the sky from. So here is my go at the hyperprocessing/rikki-ized shot as well as what I had originally done to it.

original my first edit

gone hyper...

Mostly followed the steps posted by Rikki but also added a brightness/contrast adjustment layer and levels adjustment layer.

The hyper-processed image looks a lot better although jus a tad on the darker side. The vivid sunset against the serene waters works well. Your first edit is nice as well but oversharpened IMHO as evidenced by the halos.

Have you ever tried to mix colors? Say your golden hues with a touch of purple of magenta? Might be worth a shot ;)

05/25/2006 10:14:59 PM · #636

Originally posted by rblanton:

Hyper

Original

May have overdone it, but it was fun.

Overdone? Hehehehe perhaps ;) The thing here is that skies don't appear red as what you edited it to be. Pushing the color gradiants to the hilt works well when there are clouds in the skies so that the "change and transition" isn't as evident ;)

I'm glad that you've tried it though. It's not as easy to control the colors at first but practice enough and you'll get the hang of it ;)

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/25/2006 10:16:28 PM · #637

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Bear is correct ;) He did coin the phrase and not me ;) I just started experimenting with the technique. It's been done before but only a few actually enter images in challenges using this technique. So for the most part, our images are the only ones seen hence the association with the techniques ;)

fracman

Nikon D50

05/25/2006 10:49:27 PM · #638

The last couple shots I posted garnered zero comments. Are IR-based images out of scope here? Are my image links not working again? Have I reached a level of perfection that surpasses comment? Should I be participating more in the thread?

I may just be paranoid, but I've tried posting to a few different sites and haven't gotten any responses. At first I thought it was the forum, but now I'm begining to wonder if its me...

David.C

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/25/2006 11:03:03 PM · #639

Originally posted by fracman:

Actually I've been playing around with the psd, but since I have nothing in mind to work toward I'm not getting anywhere with it. Maybe I'm just too conservitive for the 'play with it until it looks right' method. Or it may just be I've never tried editing an IR image and don't know what to do with it.

Not thru playing, but nothing to report either. :P

David

05/25/2006 11:06:56 PM · #640

Originally posted by fracman:

No all images are welcome. I've just been bogged down with work but I will get to you on those images ;) Just hang tight.

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

05/26/2006 12:07:26 PM · #641

HyperProcessed Mt St. Helens

When up in the Pacific Northwest a couple weeks ago I had a lot of trouble with my camera. It is really screwed up and doesn't seem to record things the way they really are anymore. Here is an example:

... This is what I actually saw. Honest! ----->

Message edited by author 2006-05-26 12:23:57.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

05/26/2006 01:22:08 PM · #642

Originally posted by fracman:

Speaking for myself, I've given the "hot seat" to Rikki this week; it's his lesson. I don't want to undercut my guest lecturer, so... But unlike me, he's a working man, so he doesn't have the instant-response time that I usually do. It's definitely not you. Blame Rikki's boss.

R.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

05/26/2006 01:29:15 PM · #643

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Out of 2,500 images I've post processed in PS I think I've probably used gradients only a handful of times and that was only because the sky was absolutely terrible. The concept seems artificial to me and I've noticed banding when I've used it before. I use color painting when others use gradients.

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I usually don't use specialized plugins and/or actions either. It makes me feel like I lose artistic control. I must be too anal. LOL!

My gradients are run on transparent layers and are faded significantly, so banding is not an issue, or has not been thus far. Think of sky gradients as "controlled burning", using the color of your choice. They precisely mimic what we used to do in B/W printing, when we'd burn in the skies progressively towards the top, but they are much more controllable.

About the only plugin or action I use anymore is Gothic Glow, and that pretty rarely now that I have the 20D. So we're not that far apart.

R.

Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR

05/26/2006 02:03:17 PM · #644

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by stdavidson:

Out of 2,500 images I've post processed in PS I think I've probably used gradients only a handful of times and that was only because the sky was absolutely terrible. The concept seems artificial to me and I've noticed banding when I've used it before. I use color painting when others use gradients.

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I usually don't use specialized plugins and/or actions either. It makes me feel like I lose artistic control. I must be too anal. LOL!

My gradients are run on transparent layers and are faded significantly, so banding is not an issue, or has not been thus far. Think of sky gradients as "controlled burning", using the color of your choice. They precisely mimic what we used to do in B/W printing, when we'd burn in the skies progressively towards the top, but they are much more controllable.

About the only plugin or action I use anymore is Gothic Glow, and that pretty rarely now that I have the 20D. So we're not that far apart.

The great thing about discussions like this is we learn to expand our horizons. There are an infinite variety of things that can be done in post processing. The trick it is to understand them and know when, where and how to apply them when the situation arises. That is the neat stuff I'm learning.

Message edited by author 2006-05-26 14:04:10.

Prism

Pentax K-30

05/26/2006 03:45:19 PM · #645

Originally posted by Rikki:

original my first edit

gone hyper...

Mostly followed the steps posted by Rikki but also added a brightness/contrast adjustment layer and levels adjustment layer.

The hyper-processed image looks a lot better although jus a tad on the darker side. The vivid sunset against the serene waters works well. Your first edit is nice as well but oversharpened IMHO as evidenced by the halos.

Have you ever tried to mix colors? Say your golden hues with a touch of purple of magenta? Might be worth a shot ;)

Thanks for the feedback Rikki. I took your advice and lowered the usm on my first edit and then tried modifying the water in the hyper shot to include more magenta, blue and purple. I think it does make an improvement to the overall impact of the shot.

05/26/2006 11:05:20 PM · #646

Originally posted by Prism:

original ... Hyper-Processed:

What makes this a very nice hyper-processed image, in my opinion, is that even though the color "reflection" off the water is clearly an impossible color for that sky it still looks very good.

Something you might want to try that would make the water reflected color look more "real" would be to add another color balance adjustment layer for just the sky and hyper-adjust it to have the same color as the water reflection and then subtly blend it into the existing sky color with a layer opacity reduction and with judicious mask painting with a feathered black brush. Just a thought.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

05/26/2006 11:12:59 PM · #647

Quick note to say I'm dutifully following along but lack some of the more basic skills, I think, to give this a serious shot. Like isolating sections of a picture, and making "selections" with any grace whatsoever. I also need to read up on using gradients and such - have never done that. I'll give it all a try when it's too hot to go outside this weekend. :-) Thanks to Rikki, Steve, Bear, and all the brave souls who are hyper.

05/26/2006 11:37:53 PM · #648

Originally posted by Melethia:

I would recommend that you study layer masks too. They are incredibly easy to use, completely non-destructive and a very, very powerful tool. Start and you'll wonder why you haven't used them all along.

All you do is paint with a black brush on the mask to hide an effect on a layer and paint with white to show an effect. You blend with other layers by painting with low opacity brushes. That is all there is to it. You get a layer mask on every adjustment layer.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

05/26/2006 11:40:16 PM · #649

Sounds so easy. I'm sure it will be once I figure it out. I do have a couple of handy PS books on my desk I'll pull out and see if I can figure out masks. Will give me a chance to practice with my tablet more, too.