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10/26/2009 02:19:52 PM · #226 |
I always recopy my submissions with a straight DOS copy because I am worried Lightroom edits the file. (I had the MS RAW previewer and that's why I use the DOS copy). I know it "shouldn't" touch the original but I really want to know for sure on this because I could skip the recopy step
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10/26/2009 03:13:23 PM · #227 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
I always recopy my submissions with a straight DOS copy because I am worried Lightroom edits the file. (I had the MS RAW previewer and that's why I use the DOS copy). I know it "shouldn't" touch the original but I really want to know for sure on this because I could skip the recopy step |
In principle, an original, RAW file can't be altered; the software creates "sidecar" files that tell the various programs how to *display* this RAW file and leave the file itself untouched. When you work on this RAW file in Photoshop, and go to save it, it saved as a PSD file unless you instruct it otherwise (JPG and TIFF and so forth are other options) but the original, RAW file is still untouched.
I'm not aware of any downloading or editing program that actually modifies the RAW file itself...
They may exist, but I haven't heard of them....
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10/26/2009 04:04:51 PM · #228 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'm not aware of any downloading or editing program that actually modifies the RAW file itself...
They may exist, but I haven't heard of them....
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Nikon Capture 4 does it.
And Nikon Capture NX for sure does it.
(Only when you save the file of course)
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10/26/2009 04:24:46 PM · #229 |
| If you make changes to the RAW file with Adobe's camera RAW (Bridge?), it keeps those changes, but are those a sidecar thingie? Whenever I do make changes to the RAW file before importing it into PS, I do so to a copy by using the "alt-Open" option rather than just "open" if any of that makes sense... |
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10/26/2009 04:56:07 PM · #230 |
Why isn't there a link to this thread on the rules page? or a link to the unofficial newbies guide? I feel so bad for Jutilda at the moment, and I went through the same thing (though not on a blue, but on a 6.8 shot, when I previously hadn't had anything over 6.0. After I was DQd, I did some statistics. Even though I don't remember the number, the rule of having the original has, by far, the largest number of DQs.
After my DQ I tried to search for information and never did find this. I was trying so hard to follow the rules. I was not writing over the original--I was doing a Save As, which should leave the original untouched, so I thought... Anyway, the way I have Elements set up, doing a Save As changed the original. This is not intuitively obvious. Neither is it obvious that rotating when you preview would change the original. The one sentence they have "Files that have been saved or altered with any editing or transfer software are NOT originals. DNG files are not considered originals unless recorded in that format by the camera" just isn't enough
please, please, SC (and I've begged for this before) SAVE PEOPLE THE FRUSTRATION OF LEARNING THE HARD WAY! Talk Langdon into putting links that will further explain things like this! You shouldn't have to go search for it!
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10/26/2009 04:57:12 PM · #231 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
If you make changes to the RAW file with Adobe's camera RAW (Bridge?), it keeps those changes, but are those a sidecar thingie? Whenever I do make changes to the RAW file before importing it into PS, I do so to a copy by using the "alt-Open" option rather than just "open" if any of that makes sense... |
I don't make copies of my RAW files (although I'm working in Elements, not CS4), and I've submitted a couple of RAW files that have all been validated... |
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10/26/2009 05:09:27 PM · #232 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'm not aware of any downloading or editing program that actually modifies the RAW file itself...
They may exist, but I haven't heard of them....
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Nikon Capture 4 does it.
And Nikon Capture NX for sure does it.
(Only when you save the file of course) |
But don't those save the file as a DNG? And isn't the original NEF or CRW still intact?
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10/26/2009 05:50:35 PM · #233 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'm not aware of any downloading or editing program that actually modifies the RAW file itself...
They may exist, but I haven't heard of them....
R. |
Nikon Capture 4 does it.
And Nikon Capture NX for sure does it.
(Only when you save the file of course) |
But don't those save the file as a DNG? And isn't the original NEF or CRW still intact?
R. |
I tested it just now, because I always used a relatively hidden option to save the changes in a "changes"-file. When you open a NEF in Nikon Capture and hit "Save", it will save as a NEF and over the original. So I end up with a changed file. Not DPC safe. :)
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10/26/2009 06:17:30 PM · #234 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
I tested it just now, because I always used a relatively hidden option to save the changes in a "changes"-file. When you open a NEF in Nikon Capture and hit "Save", it will save as a NEF and over the original. So I end up with a changed file. Not DPC safe. :) |
Wow. That's scary. Not just from a DPC point of view, either...
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