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04/12/2007 07:58:48 PM · #1 |
Maybe I'm just paranoid, but can I assume that "landscape" for this challenge is pretty much the way it is defined in the dictionary? (e.g. the depiction of natural scenery, depicting an expanse of natural scenery, an expanse of scenery that can be seen in a single view). More specifically, can it include "seascapes"?
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04/12/2007 08:02:19 PM · #2 |
 and blue and yellow ribbon from Landscape II :). I think seascapes will be ok. :)
Edit:spleling
Message edited by author 2007-04-12 20:02:56. |
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04/12/2007 08:05:35 PM · #3 |
I asked a very similar question several months ago. See the old thread here:
My Silly Landscape Question
You will see a lot of mixed comments - but I think the fact that there are two ribbons that are not traditional "landscapes" probably means I should not have worried as much as I did!
Originally posted by Scholten:
Maybe I'm just paranoid, but can I assume that "landscape" for this challenge is pretty much the way it is defined in the dictionary? (e.g. the depiction of natural scenery, depicting an expanse of natural scenery, an expanse of scenery that can be seen in a single view). More specifically, can it include "seascapes"? |
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04/12/2007 09:08:32 PM · #4 |
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04/12/2007 09:14:10 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
Originally posted by jdannels:
andblue and yellow ribbon from Landscape II :). I think seascapes will be ok. :)
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Did they get any DNMC comments I wonder? I entered this shot of a lighthouse and was told by two people it wasn't a landscape, it was a seascape.
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well, we have mountains-scapes, sea-scapes,tree-scapes,lake-scapes.... I think that that the category lanscape is for all the images with subject the nature. |
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04/12/2007 09:25:56 PM · #6 |
| IMO seascapes are a subset of landscapes. |
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04/12/2007 09:27:27 PM · #7 |
I'm going to enter a "Manscape".... eh, I wish! :/
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04/12/2007 10:01:03 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Scholten:
Maybe I'm just paranoid, but can I assume that "landscape" for this challenge is pretty much the way it is defined in the dictionary?... |
Why not define it for yourself?
Are we submitting images to conform to a dubious generic standard or
to contribute our very own individual vision?
Take a walk on the wild side! :-) |
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04/12/2007 11:04:08 PM · #9 |
| OK! Thanks to all for your comments. It helps give me an idea of what might be expected or rejected. |
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04/13/2007 03:27:49 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Why not define it for yourself?
Are we submitting images to conform to a dubious generic standard or
to contribute our very own individual vision?
Take a walk on the wild side! :-) |
yeah - and get a generic DNMC from the pedantic crowd, and fare badly in what is (let's not forget) a challenge. Individual vision on a subject is reserved for your personal portfolio or a site where DNMC considerations are nulled by admin review of every image submitted before opening it to votes, and a culture of acceptance of different viewpoints on a subject matter... photographic challenge utopia so to speak ;) |
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04/13/2007 03:32:55 PM · #11 |
I was a little paranoid in the last one about entering the seascape...but it all worked out fine. If you look at the comments, Jutilda left a "hmmmm" comment really early that made me even more nervous.
Shame on her... :)
I'd enter another seascape in a second. Not this time though.
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04/13/2007 07:05:24 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by inshaala:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Why not define it for yourself?
Are we submitting images to conform to a dubious generic standard or
to contribute our very own individual vision?
Take a walk on the wild side! :-) |
yeah - and get a generic DNMC from the pedantic crowd, and fare badly in what is (let's not forget) a challenge. Individual vision on a subject is reserved for your personal portfolio or a site where DNMC considerations are nulled by admin review of every image submitted before opening it to votes, and a culture of acceptance of different viewpoints on a subject matter... photographic challenge utopia so to speak ;) |
You make a good point. We're trying to "market" our photos to this DPC crowd and understanding this "audience's" general expectations, nuances, idiosyncrasies, etc usually has to be part of the formula for success.
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04/14/2007 05:47:36 AM · #13 |
| I'm stunned, I've been out at my uncle's farm the past few days and was shooting landscapes for my portfolio. Talk about happy coincidence! |
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04/14/2007 09:48:26 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by inshaala:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Why not define it for yourself?
Are we submitting images to conform to a dubious generic standard or
to contribute our very own individual vision?
Take a walk on the wild side! :-) |
yeah - and get a generic DNMC from the pedantic crowd, and fare badly in what is (let's not forget) a challenge. Individual vision on a subject is reserved for your personal portfolio or a site where DNMC considerations are nulled by admin review of every image submitted before opening it to votes, and a culture of acceptance of different viewpoints on a subject matter... photographic challenge utopia so to speak ;) |
I would want x to appreciate a good image and stay motivated to take pictures he can be proud of in ten years from now.
I couldn't care less how he fares competitively in a given challenge.
If he follows his nose, he won't mind the wind. |
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04/14/2007 11:42:50 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
...If he follows his nose, he won't mind the wind. |
He might on a pig farm... :O)
Ray |
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04/16/2007 07:44:54 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I would want x to appreciate a good image and stay motivated to take pictures he can be proud of in ten years from now.
I couldn't care less how he fares competitively in a given challenge.
If he follows his nose, he won't mind the wind. |
Fair enough, i fully support the idea of creativity and personal interpretation - but the initial question was related to entering the competition and how an entry may or may not be accepted as being "landscape"... |
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04/17/2007 10:48:28 AM · #17 |
I have another question....I wonder how would a portrait orientated landscape shot do in this challenge?
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04/17/2007 10:53:16 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
I have another question....I wonder how would a portrait orientated landscape shot do in this challenge? |
Done well it should do fine. There is no requirement when shooting a landscape that it be shot in landscape orientation, no more than a portrait be in protrait orientation. Anyone that would vote an image down on that basis needs help.
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04/17/2007 11:23:16 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Scholten:
Maybe I'm just paranoid, but can I assume that "landscape" for this challenge is pretty much the way it is defined in the dictionary? (e.g. the depiction of natural scenery, depicting an expanse of natural scenery, an expanse of scenery that can be seen in a single view). More specifically, can it include "seascapes"? |
Like you, I also have a healthy sense of paranoia, and I thank you for posting this question.
Landscape...seascape...ESCAPE from the DNMC voters?!!
Well, I have faith in the impossible and entered my own definition anyways.
Good Luck Everyone! |
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04/17/2007 03:24:30 PM · #20 |
You all can bet that the definition POLICE will be out in full force after midnight tonight...I can just see it all now.."DNMC thats a building and buildings are not allowed" "DNMC is that a rabbit? Oh no thats not landscape either" LMAO
I wish the definition police would spend as much time on the photos they take as they do defining everyone elses work...cause everytime I get a comment like that I go look at the persons site and never see a photo...
Message edited by author 2007-04-17 15:26:18. |
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04/17/2007 03:34:59 PM · #21 |
IMHO the only seascape that gets a DNMC is one that doesn't have any land in it.
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04/17/2007 03:38:10 PM · #22 |
If land is a prominent feature in your 'seascape' it will probably be fine. Seascapes have done well in the past. Portrait oriented landscapes are probably fine as well.
But NOTHING should ever surprise you about what is punished as DNMC by some voters. Why do you think that even the highest rated and incredibly high quality images often get low individual scores?
DNMCers typically look for reasons to vote otherwise good images lower.
For certain, DNMC opinions are as valid as anyone else's but it is sad when it overshadows solid, quality photography achieved through much time and effort by the submitting photographer and does little or nothing to improve someone's photographic skills.
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04/17/2007 04:43:22 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Weefan:
You all can bet that the definition POLICE will be out in full force after midnight tonight...I can just see it all now.."DNMC thats a building and buildings are not allowed" "DNMC is that a rabbit? Oh no thats not landscape either" LMAO
I wish the definition police would spend as much time on the photos they take as they do defining everyone elses work...cause everytime I get a comment like that I go look at the persons site and never see a photo... |
Reading this post, I'm somehow reminded of the poet Milton who once said (and I'm paraphrasing here) that if all the people who were qualified to to censor literature...spent all their time censoring badly written literature instead of composing exceptional original literary works...then nothing of value would ever be written.
DNMC?!!! Bring it on! |
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04/17/2007 11:10:07 PM · #24 |
| If people are going to DNMC and vote down seascapes, then they should DNMC and vote down any body of water including: Lakes, ponds, puddles, rivers, rain, mist, rediculous....... |
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04/21/2007 04:35:31 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by JeffDay:
If people are going to DNMC and vote down seascapes, then they should DNMC and vote down any body of water including: Lakes, ponds, puddles, rivers, rain, mist, rediculous....... |
AND THEY DO .....
i looked up in dictionary to make sure my entry would meet challenge .. it said ... "piece of inland scenery; picture of it" .......
i have an entry that was taken in the bush where i live .. so it is obviously a landscape ..
even tho there are heaps of trees, ive been receiving a lot of DNMC's probably because there's a body of water in the image ...... how my entry doesnt meet challenge is totally beyond me ...
4 ppl have made it a fav and i've had heaps of great comments, but it's made me a bit downhearted that ppl can go thru our work deciding erroneously that our work doesnt meet a challenge, giving us a really low score .... AND THEY'RE WRONG ... how is that fair .... i reckon their scores should be cancelled ....
Message edited by author 2007-04-23 08:35:24. |
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