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05/15/2008 10:41:56 AM · #1 |
Wow! Anyone here experience this?
You click the shutter, like it. Tweak the settings - adjust aperture, white balance maybe, lighting a tad. Click again - Magic! Get a chill from the image in the LCD. Then do some pp and submit. Go to bed, awake and check and...
4.x with over 30 votes and just deflate and wonder what the heck!
Looking back at it now I see that it isn't as flawless as it first looked but wow.
Please tell me this sinking feeling is common. (I am going to trudge along)
Jay |
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05/15/2008 11:00:21 AM · #2 |
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05/15/2008 11:05:28 AM · #3 |
| haha yes exactly the feeling almost every time! |
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05/15/2008 11:07:40 AM · #4 |
Yup.
But Moose408 has the secret figured out. Duplicate something that has done well before and you are guaranteed a high score. (Nothing wrong with this, lots of people do it all the time. It is a powerful learning experience and it still takes a lot of work.) If you try to be original, you may be unpleasantly surprised.
My bicyles entry is behaving that way. I just sent a couple of PM's to the two people who left critiques letting me know why it was lacking for them. I thanked them.
Message edited by author 2008-05-15 11:09:59. |
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05/15/2008 11:09:14 AM · #5 |
| It seems to be a common thing with photography. Just try to remember that you are taking the photos for your personal enjoyment. If someoneelse like them as well, then that is a plus. Just keep taking pictures! If your anything like me it still makes you happy! Happy shooting! Don't let someone elses opinions of what you like get you down. |
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05/15/2008 11:21:27 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Yup.
But Moose408 has the secret figured out. Duplicate something that has done well before and you are guaranteed a high score. (Nothing wrong with this, lots of people do it all the time. It is a powerful learning experience and it still takes a lot of work.) If you try to be original, you may be unpleasantly surprised.
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I would like to think that this is not what everyone does here. In my case, it's the opposite that occurs. I view the older challenges and come up with totally different ideas from them and if I don't, well then I move on to the next challenge. I absolutely agree that it's a learning experience to try to match an image's quality but I definitely do not agree with your last sentence. You may be disappointed but isn't it worth the chance to come up with something truly original? For me it is and that's maybe why I don't have a large portfolio. jmo |
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05/15/2008 11:38:52 AM · #7 |
to the OP:
That sounds like my monthly Free Study ritual.
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05/15/2008 11:42:23 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Jac:
I definitely do not agree with your last sentence. You may be disappointed but isn't it worth the chance to come up with something truly original? For me it is and that's maybe why I don't have a large portfolio. jmo |
I agree as well, I was just stating an idea. I'm sometimes disappointed, but I'll never know if my ideas work if I don't throw them into the mix. I've been experimenting a bit, and my wildly fluctuating scores show that. I don't necessarily go the safe route either. |
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05/15/2008 02:33:00 PM · #9 |
Thank you all for the responses. I am sure glad to see that others go through this as well. It is frustrating when I see some of the comments - the very thing I was proud of bothering others - but I am learning.
I guess part is learning how to do what I see in my head. The harder part is learning why what I see in my head isn't that good after all.
Anyway, I do enjoy it, and away from this site people seem to like what I do. I do still enjoy the "tough crowd".
Jay |
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05/15/2008 03:09:43 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Hotspam:
...The harder part is learning why what I see in my head isn't that good after all.
Anyway, I do enjoy it, and away from this site people seem to like what I do. I do still enjoy the "tough crowd".
Jay |
Just because it doesn't score well here doesn't necessarily mean it isn't good. It just means that this particular group of voters may not share your artistic vision. If you feel strongly about it and like the way it looks, that is the main thing to remember as it takes a pummelling.
Hopefully you are receiving some constructive comments so that if you really want to improve your scores at this site, you can learn what voters are looking for and try to incorporate that into your next entry. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but as long as you are enjoying yourself and the photography, that is what counts. |
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05/15/2008 04:06:19 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Prism:
Just because it doesn't score well here doesn't necessarily mean it isn't good. It just means that this particular group of voters may not share your artistic vision. |
I have also learned to interpret my scores and to judge whether it is really lacking or if it is good without broad appeal.
On a similar note, you may appreciate this thread I started a while back, to show off all the stuff that has scored mid-range on DPC, but has been highly appreciated elsewhere: For those stuck in the 5's
Message edited by author 2008-05-15 16:07:57. |
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05/15/2008 11:42:07 PM · #12 |
I am in complete agreement with you. Just last night I was looking over the Triangle Composition photos and contrasting the scores for these two images (first one is mine from the Centered Composition)
Place: 339 out of 375
Avg (all users): 4.4490
Place: 77 out of 170
Avg (all users): 5.3051
Now I liked "Falling" (2nd one) and I gave it a "6", so I am not saying anything bad about  AperturePriority . What I find hard is that "Dante" (1st one) scored almost a point lower and it is hard for me to look at the two images and the comments and then understand what is more appealing about one over the other so that I can correct it and improve my photo skills.
It is a frustrating site at times, but overall very fun.
-Bob |
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05/16/2008 12:12:09 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Hotspam:
Wow! Anyone here experience this?
You click the shutter, like it. Tweak the settings - adjust aperture, white balance maybe, lighting a tad. Click again - Magic! Get a chill from the image in the LCD. Then do some pp and submit. Go to bed, awake and check and...
4.x with over 30 votes and just deflate and wonder what the heck!
Looking back at it now I see that it isn't as flawless as it first looked but wow.
Please tell me this sinking feeling is common. (I am going to trudge along)
Jay |
Yesss - that happened quite often to me, too! The funny thing is that many of my shots that were sooo easy and kind of happened by coincidence often do better than the organized and prepared ones, that were time consuming.
But to have an idea, trying to make it work, is always a great learning experience, no matter how it is rated! I`ve come to give up expecting any "reward" in the form of good voting for my favourite shots!
The "rewards" often come unexpectedly for something you even considered not posting - such are the different tastes of everybody. For me sticking to the challenge topic - as well as I can at least - has been the greatest learning experience! Sometimes that shows in the votes, sometimes it doesn't - better don't take the votes too seriously.
When the whole voting experience became too frustrating last year, I took a break; now I am back again, decided not to let any low votes keep me from looking forward to the new challenge topic! |
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05/16/2008 09:01:23 AM · #14 |
Thats my current feeling. Tried something new w/ soft focus, and I liked the results. Apparently, not so many others did! After a couple of comments I see the issues pointed out, so its somewhat my subject matter, somewhat my processing. I feel like I'm going to try to shoot the same subject again to see if I can't score higher...
Ah well. I look at the challenges like assignments for a class. Half the things I do I'd never try if there wasn't a challenge. It gives me experience shooting different subjects in different ways, and that can't be bad! Always looking to improve! |
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05/16/2008 09:08:20 AM · #15 |
One thing I have noticed since i'm here. I get the greatest ideas for a challenge one week after the deadline has past.
Fences
Bikes
Water
I had great ideas for these but only after they were over. grrr |
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05/16/2008 11:32:01 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Jac:
One thing I have noticed since i'm here. I get the greatest ideas for a challenge one week after the deadline has past.
Fences
Bikes
Water
I had great ideas for these but only after they were over. grrr |
soooo enter one into the free-study :) its what its there fore afterall! :) :-D
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05/16/2008 11:47:58 AM · #17 |
| My last entry was my lowest ever, I loved the pic but DPC is a cruel and unpredictable mistress... |
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05/19/2008 03:53:51 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Hotspam:
I guess part is learning how to do what I see in my head. The harder part is learning why what I see in my head isn't that good after all. |
That right there is been the best part of DPC for me. I have a lot of images I submit thinking they are great and then will get a comment like "the horizon is tilted" and I'll go "Doh!", why didn't I see that, what was I thinking? It's forced me to be much more critical of my photos.
Tonight my wife was looking over my shoulder as I was preparing my Movie Title II image and commented that it looked nice. I pointed out about 3 things wrong to her and she accused me of being a perfectionist (which I'm not by a long shot) and I replied that if I submitted the image as is I would get negative comments about every single one of those areas. The beauty is that I can know recognize those areas which I was unable to do 2-3 months ago.
As for learning how to do what is in your head, that's a real tough one. My Camera Portrait is the ONLY photo I've ever taken that came close to being what I saw in my head before taking the photo. Most of the time I have a great idea but the implementation is lacking. That too is part of the learning process and I relish it. Gives me something to shoot for. |
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