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01/15/2010 12:34:05 PM · #1
I thought I'd start a thread for gathering those of us who print with WHCC, to provide peer support to each other (and of course, start it off with a question of my own).

I am going through and trying to build up my portfolio of prints...I've been focused on "onscreen and online" too long.

Here's my question. When I first signed up for WHCC, I was under the impression that I had to prep everything so it was exactly 300dpi at the size I was printing. I don't recall where I read that, and I believe the ROES software doesn't enforce that...and I think I've printed to multiple sizes from the same original. That is certainly much more convenient than prepping a print file for each print size. Anyone know if you "need to" resize, or "should", or just do whatever Roes lets you do? ;)


01/15/2010 05:38:40 PM · #2
when it comes to prints (as opposed to a client deliverable), as a rule, i don't size or resize anything; i let the lab handle it. if i need to clean up a horizon, i'll crop (with no parameters) to retain as much of the image as possible. i'll process the image the way i want to, then save as a jpg 12. that file is what i upload, regardless of the print size requested. once uploaded, i'll look to see if i need to move the crop around. this saves an unbelievable amount of time...

i laugh at myself every time i run across the print inventory i did 4-5 years ago. for almost every image, i have files for each crop: 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, 8x12, and 11x14. now i just have one printable file that good for everything from postage stamps to billboards and everywhere in between. ;-)
01/15/2010 05:59:24 PM · #3
Originally posted by Skip:

... 4-5 years ago ... for almost every image, i have files for each crop: 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, 8x12, and 11x14. now i just have one printable file that good for everything from postage stamps to billboards and everywhere in between. ;-)

How do you address the issue of varying aspect ratios/cropping doing that?
01/15/2010 06:05:31 PM · #4
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Skip:

... 4-5 years ago ... for almost every image, i have files for each crop: 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, 8x12, and 11x14. now i just have one printable file that good for everything from postage stamps to billboards and everywhere in between. ;-)

How do you address the issue of varying aspect ratios/cropping doing that?

if you mean today, there is no issue. for example, if someone orders a package that includes an 8x10, 2-5x7s, and 8 wallets, i upload one file then check the default croppings applied for each item; if necessary i move and/or resize the crop with the online cropping tool.

does that make sense?
01/15/2010 06:36:17 PM · #5
ummm... but what is WHCC?
01/15/2010 06:38:26 PM · #6
I see it as meaning that you still need to crop each image differently for each aspect ratio -- just that you assign those crop instructions within the online system rather than doing it manually and saving each version separately. However, it seems that if you only want one specific crop/look to the photo, it would be necessary to add a border and crop that ...

BTW: How about a link to these folks for those of us not familiar with them? :-)
01/15/2010 07:53:16 PM · #7
Originally posted by GeneralE:

I see it as meaning that you still need to crop each image differently for each aspect ratio -- just that you assign those crop instructions within the online system rather than doing it manually and saving each version separately.

exactly!

Originally posted by GeneralE:

However, it seems that if you only want one specific crop/look to the photo, it would be necessary to add a border and crop that ...

that's true. i actually have to do that on some team photos (like a football team) in order to make sure that no particular ratio will crop out part of the team ;-)

Originally posted by wendy:

what is WHCC?

White House Custom Colour, Your Professional Photographic and Press Printing Partner

Message edited by author 2010-01-15 19:54:22.
01/17/2010 09:49:43 AM · #8
WHCC had a kick ass spread at Imaging USA.

Their floating canvas wraps...very cool. Also - I gotta get some shit printed on that metallic paper. Its not for everything, but hot damn does it look good.
01/17/2010 01:48:51 PM · #9
I've been ordering 11x14's for my portfolio to take around to stores/galleries.

But since most of the time my shots are 2:3 aspect ratio, I've been creating 11x14's by putting a big white border like this:

Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_754364.jpg

I've also used that technique to order some mounted prints as samples and gifts.

But I am still creating a specific file for 11x14 @ 300dpi. And then I have to save the PSD and the JPEG both, in case I want to change the text, for example.

I was just wondering if someone knew if that was still what they wanted. Roes certainly doesn't enforce it.
01/23/2010 04:08:57 PM · #10
Has anyone tried one of their float wraps yet...today's the last day of the sale, I'm tempted...

So from what I can tell, you can get Lustre paper wrapped as well as Canvas?

I'd love to hear what people think of each.
01/23/2010 04:50:07 PM · #11
Neil, I don't know if your sizing question has been answered, but I use WHCC and Roes for all my printing. You don't need to resize if your photo looks okay when dragged into the box. Like I printed an 11x14 for a client, but then she decided she wanted an 8x10 as well. Since the crops aren't that much different, I just drug the one I had saved as an 11x14 into the 8x10 box and positioned it how I wanted it, and it worked just fine.

I haven't tried the wraps but I went to the NY Expo a couple of months ago and saw some samples. They don't do anything that doesn't look awesome! I LOVE them!!!

01/24/2010 11:59:11 AM · #12
Thanks Sandy! That's helpful.

I think I decided to pass on the floats...what I am really interested in trying is the standouts, as a no framing alternative to unframed canvas.

But as far as I know, they haven't been on sale yet, unless I missed it!
02/06/2010 03:31:09 PM · #13
Hi there,

I'm new to the site and googled for an answer to my exact same question. So, I hope no one minds me jumping in and commenting. I placed my first orders with WHCC, I did their test prints, got them back and they were great. Then placed an order for a client, and what I'm having trouble with in this process is when I order and place borders around a 5x7 print for example, the actual print size is bigger then a 5x7. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. So in other words, I still have to "manually" crop (ie...scissors, cutter) to get the print down to 5x7 in order to fit the clients frame. Is that right? Or am I doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated. I also found myself saving multiple prints for every size the client wanted, now I decided to add a canvas, but if that doesn't work, then I'll just crop in ROES I guess...HELP! :)

Thanks
02/06/2010 04:32:01 PM · #14
ROES? Not that I need to know, but I am curious...
02/06/2010 04:46:50 PM · #15
Originally posted by Melethia:

ROES?

Remote Order Entry System :) Used by many pro labs
02/06/2010 04:50:37 PM · #16
Ah, thanks. I thought it was something like that. Shows just how in demand my stuff is in the print world... :-)
02/06/2010 08:19:56 PM · #17
Originally posted by eephoto:

Hi there,

I'm new to the site and googled for an answer to my exact same question. So, I hope no one minds me jumping in and commenting. I placed my first orders with WHCC, I did their test prints, got them back and they were great. Then placed an order for a client, and what I'm having trouble with in this process is when I order and place borders around a 5x7 print for example, the actual print size is bigger then a 5x7. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. So in other words, I still have to "manually" crop (ie...scissors, cutter) to get the print down to 5x7 in order to fit the clients frame. Is that right? Or am I doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated. I also found myself saving multiple prints for every size the client wanted, now I decided to add a canvas, but if that doesn't work, then I'll just crop in ROES I guess...HELP! :)

Thanks


You can crop in ROES...that's fine it turns out. If you load to their FTP site, you have to provide the exact size.

But, if you want borders, like I have done to get a photo to fit into a different aspect ratio, or just to have a white border, you have to add that yourself.

But unlike FTP uploads, ROES is more flexible in letting you size your prints.

02/06/2010 11:35:21 PM · #18
You can do borders in Thrifty Prints but not in regular Paper Prints.
02/08/2010 01:10:12 PM · #19
I started another thread asking about business cards, but thought I would ask in here since I'm a WHCC user...Do they print business cards? I don't see them in ROES. I'm leaning toward printing 2 sided with MOO, does WHCC have any 2 sided prints that I could just cut out?
02/10/2010 09:38:48 AM · #20
Anyone going to get the PhotoVision 2010 subscription that WHCC sent the promo code for? Has anyone ever watch a PhotoVision DVD before? $39.00 seems like an awefully good deal...
02/10/2010 01:19:23 PM · #21
WHCC business cards are crap. They are flimsy and cheap feeling. The rep cards are more expensive but better quality. But you'd really be better off going with someone like overnightprints.com. Or MOO...those are nice, too.

Message edited by author 2010-02-10 13:20:24.
12/09/2012 08:54:17 PM · #22
Does anyone know how to use ROES to order a custom size print? Or is that even possible? I normally have just ordered the closest size and trimmed, but I want this larger piece to be mounted and I don't want to have to trim a larger (32.5 x 26.25), mounted piece.

Any help is appreciated.

Judy

Message edited by author 2012-12-09 20:54:53.
12/09/2012 10:02:07 PM · #23
Hey Judy you can probably give them a call tomorrow to find out, I havent down any custom sizes and not sure if they can. Most of their stuff is templated, does their catalog even have an option for custom sizing? I could be wrong either way.
12/10/2012 08:37:13 AM · #24
I've used WHCC for a long time and everything is great. I have done a lot of canvas wraps and a few float wraps all with excellent results. Service is the best. I too crop in ROES and add my own borders.
12/10/2012 10:30:50 AM · #25
The answer I got today was to order the closest size and THEY do the trim for $1 a size.
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