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 05/16/2012 01:37:04 AM · #1
This is not a landscape.There is no land in this shot...well it's under the water. I mean if we had a 'seascape' challenge, it would of done well but IMHO this is DNMC, obviously this is when we can break the challenge rules....right ?

Message edited by author 2012-05-16 01:37:37.
 05/16/2012 01:37:47 AM · #2
Originally posted by Neat:
This is not a landscape,there is no land in this shot...well it's under the water. I mean if we had a 'seascape' challenge, it would of done well but IMHO this is DNMC, obviously this is when we can break the challenge rules....right ?


You alone hold the key to your DNMC troll heart.
 05/16/2012 01:39:59 AM · #3
I would accept it as a landscape, albeit not a traditional landscape. I also consider my image below a landscape/abstract landscape.



Message edited by author 2012-05-16 01:42:04.
 05/16/2012 01:41:04 AM · #4
There were a lot of other photos that were seascapes, but pedants can't rule the world, you know.
 05/16/2012 01:41:19 AM · #5
Originally posted by Neat:
This is not a landscape.There is no land in this shot...well it's under the water. I mean if we had a 'seascape' challenge, it would of done well but IMHO this is DNMC, obviously this is when we can break the challenge rules....right ?


You are correct. But DPC loves to award beautiful images high scores regardless of the challenge theme. Too many people feel bad if they vote down an image that's good even if it clearly DNMC.

Its sad really.
 05/16/2012 01:41:23 AM · #6
Lol like you can talk......at least my Avg Vote cast is higher than yours.........GRIN!!

spiritualspatula : Avg Vote Cast: 4.9417

Message edited by author 2012-05-16 01:41:58.
 05/16/2012 01:50:23 AM · #7
Originally posted by Neat:
this is DNMC, obviously this is when we can break the challenge rules....right ?

Which rule?
 05/16/2012 01:50:25 AM · #8
I don't get it either.
 05/16/2012 01:55:35 AM · #9
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Neat:
this is DNMC, obviously this is when we can break the challenge rules....right ?

Which rule?


Sorry incorrect wording....well the 'spirit' of the challenge.
 05/16/2012 01:57:04 AM · #10
There is clearly landscape in view. IMHO this could be and was entered into the landscape challenge without error. Whether it is the image you would have submitted or not is clear, and this is why we all have our individual votes. Claiming this is DNMC though, I believe is hardly the case.

Nick
 05/16/2012 02:01:33 AM · #11
On 500px there are no Seascapes, just Landscapes. Nobody there has a problem with Seascapes appearing under Landscapes. DPC is a very strange place where people like splitting hairs many ways. No wonder some DPCers just can't be bothered to participate any more. There is too much envy and plain nonsense.
 05/16/2012 02:02:07 AM · #12
Originally posted by Neat:
Lol like you can talk......at least my Avg Vote cast is higher than yours.........GRIN!!

spiritualspatula : Avg Vote Cast: 4.9417


Avg vote cast is actually a meaningless metric if one applies their voting equally to all images. I would still vote all the same hypothetically deserving images high and undeserving images low. In the end, there is no difference between having a high average and a low average (ETA other than the end score being lower which is meaningless, since we're just talking about placement), it's just something that folks like to latch onto as a form of scapegoating for the world not being as they think it ought to be.

My point is that only you decide what is DNMC for you. If you think it is, fine, vote however you want. If you don't, fine, vote however you want.
If you're looking for the populace to agree that the image is DNMC, though, you won't find that, as obviously the majority of voters found it good enough to warrant votes (that, or, they don't penalize for DNMC... another personal decision).

Some users here would say that a landscape is only a landscape if it is only 85% land and 15% sky, any deviation (84/16 split) would be DNMC and punished with a 1. Others may vote that so long as it's a wide angle shot showing the lay of a scene, it's a fine and dandy landscape.

So, you saying "this is not a landscape" is great, but it's just your own opinion and you're expecting everybody else to agree, which won't happen (the voting disagrees with your statement). If you're just looking for people to agree with you, I guess you can find some folks to do that this way, but it's sorta pointless, as we all have differing views on the matter and none of them are more or less correct.

Message edited by author 2012-05-16 02:03:04.
 05/16/2012 02:04:03 AM · #13
Originally posted by MargaretN:
On 500px there are no Seascapes, just Landscapes. Nobody there has a problem with Seascapes appearing under Landscapes. DPC is a very strange place where people like splitting hairs many ways. No wonder some DPCers just can't be bothered to participate any more. There is too much envy and plain nonsense.
Forgot to add personal attacks. That's simply nasty.
 05/16/2012 02:12:43 AM · #14
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
If you're just looking for people to agree with you, I guess you can find some folks to do that this way, but it's sorta pointless, as we all have differing views on the matter and none of them are more or less correct.

LOL - not to hijack, but it's the exact same thing with politics, yet folks still cling to "right" and "wrong".

Personally, I would have DNMC-ding'd it a bit (I tend to have a range of +/- points specifically for challenge relevance, not just a meets or does not meet), but as mentioned, everyone has their own way of looking at things and that's probably the way it should be.
 05/16/2012 02:21:02 AM · #15
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
If you're just looking for people to agree with you, I guess you can find some folks to do that this way, but it's sorta pointless, as we all have differing views on the matter and none of them are more or less correct.

LOL - not to hijack, but it's the exact same thing with politics, yet folks still cling to "right" and "wrong".

Personally, I would have DNMC-ding'd it a bit (I tend to have a range of +/- points specifically for challenge relevance, not just a meets or does not meet), but as mentioned, everyone has their own way of looking at things and that's probably the way it should be.


I HEAR what your saying, but I just don't SEE how it's relevant. :)

05/16/2012 02:31:32 AM · #16
Originally posted by sempermarine:
I HEAR what your saying, but I just don't SEE how it's relevant. :)

HA! When am I ever?! :P
 05/16/2012 02:35:20 AM · #17
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
If you're just looking for people to agree with you, I guess you can find some folks to do that this way, but it's sorta pointless, as we all have differing views on the matter and none of them are more or less correct.

LOL - not to hijack, but it's the exact same thing with politics, yet folks still cling to "right" and "wrong".

Personally, I would have DNMC-ding'd it a bit (I tend to have a range of +/- points specifically for challenge relevance, not just a meets or does not meet), but as mentioned, everyone has their own way of looking at things and that's probably the way it should be.


Is it just me or does Art's head change everyday, I look forward to tomorrow now :-)

I felt like I'd seen that image many times in the past, I moved on and didn't vote.

This place is becoming far to competitive for me, I will invest more time in the side challenges and if I enter a challenge, I will try to be a bit more original than usual, even if that means lower scores and no ribbons. I get little pleasure now out of sheepishly entering what I know will do well, this will have to change, sombody like timfythetoo gives me great motivation, I just love the way his images have evolved, we all know he could ribbon if he wanted to.
 05/16/2012 02:41:29 AM · #18
Originally posted by jagar:
timfythetoo gives me great motivation, I just love the way his images have evolved, we all know he could ribbon if he wanted to.

Agreed! This is the type of evolution I love and applaud from our ribbon masters here. Once you have had your fill of blue, red and yellow streaming down your profile page, you have earned the right to cut loose, take chances and do whatever the hell you want.
 05/16/2012 02:45:53 AM · #19
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by jagar:
timfythetoo gives me great motivation, I just love the way his images have evolved, we all know he could ribbon if he wanted to.

Agreed! This is the type of evolution I love and applaud from our ribbon masters here. Once you have had your fill of blue, red and yellow streaming down your profile page, you have earned the right to cut loose, take chances and do whatever the hell you want.


Couldn't agree with you more!
 05/16/2012 02:50:14 AM · #20
definition of landscape photography
 05/16/2012 02:52:21 AM · #21
Originally posted by Penny Lane:
definition of landscape photography
Thanks:
"Waterfalls, coastlines, seascapes and mountains are especially popular in classic landscape photography".
 05/16/2012 02:54:09 AM · #22
Besides most images generally get voted high here on DPC if they are eye candy images. Many times the better images as far as technique, style and content go, score lower down on the scale. DPC voters are often overpowered by the visual impact only and don;t look for other qualities.
 05/16/2012 02:55:09 AM · #23
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Originally posted by Penny Lane:
definition of landscape photography
Thanks:
"Waterfalls, coastlines, seascapes and mountains are especially popular in classic landscape photography".


:)

Interestingly I just looked this up yesterday as our camera club is having a landscapes competition and people were asking me "Is this shot a landscape? What about this one? " and I realised I was only assuming I knew what a landscape was. I found it to be an eye opener to read the broader definitions given here.
 05/16/2012 02:57:39 AM · #24
Originally posted by JustFred:
Besides most images generally get voted high here on DPC if they are eye candy images. Many times the better images as far as technique, style and content go, score lower down on the scale. DPC voters are often overpowered by the visual impact only and don;t look for other qualities.


So then let's change the subject, what does it all mean - what does it say for us as human beings if we are only enchanted by looks, I mean "Hollywood' is full of glamorous 'eye candy' people and look how shallow most of them are......lol
 05/16/2012 02:58:20 AM · #25
Oh I don't know, part of the fun can be going for a score - the 'audience' comes with the challenge part and deliberately trying to score well can be fun - sort of like a commission. Certainly things like DPL and the BYOAKC can get me to enter stuff I don't like (too) much for the score but I like to see if I can do it - do I have its measure?

I mix it up though, play both sides if you will, but - shooting for a ribbon or for some PH bling can both be about shooting for a particular audience.

Of course, we can persuade ourselves that our work is emergent and uninfluenced by such intentions to pander to any audience but I'm not sure I buy that. All art is socioculturally constructed - each 'piece' we create emerges from and contributes to a wider context. We are all influenced by audience in some way. I welcome that, if I could never share my images, if there was never a reaction then I'd give up and sell my kit.

So, do I ever just shoot for me? Probably not - that would be like an actor playing to an empty house. So, I like the competition - but that doesn't mean that I don't find some of the facets of competitiveness to be unpalatable; though one might argue that it (inevitably) comes with the territory. Perhaps it's a marker that people care - I think I'd take that over benign indifference.
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