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09/28/2012 04:43:40 AM · #1

OK, look at the name of the challenge, then try to guess what the yellow, banana- shaped thing bottom right might be.
D'ya think the lack of flashing lights and signposts might have affected the result?
09/28/2012 04:48:51 AM · #2
Looks like a cross-section of a pineapple to me. Other than that, I found the image to be so unappealing that I skipped it in voting and didn't even leave a 1.
09/28/2012 05:53:23 AM · #3
I don't think it was the lack of sign posts - unfortunately I think it was more the case the photo may not have appealed to the voters. I see that I gave you a 4 so guess it didn't appeal to me either - sorry!

I think that a photo could have done well still without a banana - for example I wish Penny had entered this one as I think it is a fantastic photo and I would have scored it highly in the banana challenge.

09/28/2012 06:48:00 AM · #4
Originally posted by paulsteven:

I don't think it was the lack of sign posts - unfortunately I think it was more the case the photo may not have appealed to the voters. I see that I gave you a 4 so guess it didn't appeal to me either - sorry!

I think that a photo could have done well still without a banana - for example I wish Penny had entered this one as I think it is a fantastic photo and I would have scored it highly in the banana challenge.



oh wow, oh wow, oh wow!! This would have been a 9 or 10 in the banana challenge.
09/28/2012 07:35:22 AM · #5
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by paulsteven:

I don't think it was the lack of sign posts - unfortunately I think it was more the case the photo may not have appealed to the voters. I see that I gave you a 4 so guess it didn't appeal to me either - sorry!

I think that a photo could have done well still without a banana - for example I wish Penny had entered this one as I think it is a fantastic photo and I would have scored it highly in the banana challenge.



oh wow, oh wow, oh wow!! This would have been a 9 or 10 in the banana challenge.


yes
09/28/2012 08:54:12 AM · #6
Originally posted by raish:


D'ya think the lack of flashing lights and signposts might have affected the result?


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Nah, I think the lack of a banana affected the result.
09/28/2012 09:17:54 AM · #7
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by raish:


D'ya think the lack of flashing lights and signposts might have affected the result?


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Nah, I think the lack of a banana affected the result.

And that sums up my vote succinctly.
09/28/2012 09:27:38 AM · #8
The fact of there being a banana in the picture does nothing to affect this judgement?

Message edited by author 2012-09-28 09:28:55.
09/28/2012 09:29:21 AM · #9
Originally posted by raish:

The fact of thrre being a banana in the picture does nothing to affect this judgement?


That's not a banana, nor is it made of cheese.

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For gods sake, please tell me you aren't being serious, and that one of the extremely blurred spots is a banana that you expected us to recognize?
09/28/2012 09:35:19 AM · #10
I can see there's a wee bit problem there with the banana-shaped yellow bit of the picture being out of focus, but given the challenge saying 'compose your picture any way you like as long as tere's a banana in it' I thought there could have been a clue.
09/28/2012 09:43:02 AM · #11
[Edited as I decided I was being a bit cheeky:)

This thread is hilarious!!

Message edited by author 2012-09-28 09:49:16.
09/28/2012 09:43:30 AM · #12
Banana or no banana, it's a good abstract... with a moon:) Raish, there is no getting around the fact that this is DPC. If it says "banana" they want to SEE the banana. CLEARLY. My abstract would have been appreciated by some but in the midst of the challenge, would have been booed by all the purists here and I didn't want to hear about it. So I waited - and put it out there as an outtake. Thanks to those who have commented.
09/28/2012 09:50:27 AM · #13
Originally posted by raish:

I can see there's a wee bit problem there with the banana-shaped yellow bit of the picture being out of focus, but given the challenge saying 'compose your picture any way you like as long as tere's a banana in it' I thought there could have been a clue.


I swear, you're like a Scotsman trying to use Siri. ;)
09/28/2012 10:06:32 AM · #14
Ah! So you heard the words I left out as well then, but you still couldn't see the banana. It's to do with your perception - Billy Connolly may yet have the answer.

Anyway, thanks for all your response and don't hold back for me, Paul :) I maybe just a (wee) bit disappointed at going so many challenges without a brown...
09/28/2012 10:12:33 AM · #15
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

My abstract would have been appreciated by some but in the midst of the challenge, would have been booed by all the purists here and I didn't want to hear about it.


Lynn, you're right. With the Banana Girl in the challenge you'd have gotten bad scores, in case it matters.
I already started a small conversation on the subject with Oliver h2 on how literal we have to take the wording of a challenge and pretty much agreed. I said:
If the challenge asks only for a banana, I expect to see a good representation of it that nevertheless is not a stock image. We can use a total different lighting for instance, to take a subject away from an image good for a visual dictionary. We are not at DPC to create stock images and the proof is that we have a forum to talk about the subject without being the goal of DPC.

In our case the challenge stated:
"Compose your photograph any way you like, so long as you've got a banana in it."
It required some thought also. A context.

As to what Penny said about Ceci n'est pas une banane: Banana or no banana, it's a good abstract... with a moon:)
I have to say that personally I was not touched by the picture. Magritte's wording was too much used, just like the moustache on Mona Lisa and it does not stop the viewer on the tracks any longer. I liked the idea but wished for a better completion.
09/28/2012 10:18:54 AM · #16
Originally posted by raish:

Ah! So you heard the words I left out as well then, but you still couldn't see the banana. It's to do with your perception - Billy Connolly may yet have the answer.



:)

It's not to do with my perception... It's to do with the fact that the banana was completely unrecognizable.
09/28/2012 10:40:30 AM · #17
Originally posted by raish:


Anyway, thanks for all your response and don't hold back for me, Paul :) I maybe just a (wee) bit disappointed at going so many challenges without a brown...


Ah OK well I will post this again then just for a giggle as you clearly are a good sport and may be a fellow Whiskey drinker.



09/28/2012 10:41:54 AM · #18
I m going to assume that you\'re serious about your query given that you went through the trouble of posting it. Let me walk you through - what i feel - about your image. Please note, rhis is not a comment on how good you or anyone is, just a comment on how i saw it and i hope it helps you connect to \"me\" as a viewer/voter.
Reasons I didn\'t rate your image higher.

I get some abstracts, I\'ve studied them to try and gain some knowledge, and i\'ve concluded that some i love and some i don\'t get. Penny\'s is easy to fall in love with, yours i don\'t get.

The title can sometimes make or break an image. I imagine you\'re from France so i don\'t fault you for using a French title in a competition where the major language of conversation is english. if its meant to be artistic or allude to something, i don\'t get it. Yes, its a banana..? Cool, there might be some perspective for \"is it the moon or something i don\'t see\"? I really just saw your \"banana\" as part of the foliage.

For me, abstracts may be out of focus and have distractions, but if there are distractions, they are there disturbingly so and the hints of detail tease the mind and i try to make out what i want to see and imagine that i m seeing either one version of what could be or exactly what the artist does-maybe ive made the meaning my own(that title can play into this, but yes its a banana isn\'t all that interesting for me). The distractions in your image weren\'t exciting or compelling or impactful, just looked annoying, and not in a good way(annoying in a good way is a teasing brother for example). Maybe its my photographer\'s bias, but bottom line is - i vote based on what i think. even if its fuzzyness, i think a good abstracts draws your attention to one or several places and it just \"does something\" for you and its enjoyable or just gut wrenching to look at - It tugs at emotion. I just didn\'t see it in yours.

I hope this helped! I won\'t pretend to be very artistic, but i look through a lot of images and my high graders usually have to pull me in pretty quick - which in a few cases is perhaps unfair to images that require deeper thought. I gave yours an honest second look and i wouldn\'t change the score in my mind

PS: whiskey drinkers unite!

Message edited by author 2012-09-28 10:50:01.
09/28/2012 11:59:01 AM · #19
and now I know you're all wrong, because there's no 'e' in gold watch
09/28/2012 12:06:32 PM · #20
Originally posted by raish:

and now I know you're all wrong, because there's no 'e' in gold watch


Haha yes I am Irish so we like to have an 'e' in our whiskey:)
09/28/2012 12:08:22 PM · #21
Originally posted by Devinder:

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The title can sometimes make or break an image. I imagine you\'re from France so i don\'t fault you for using a French title in a competition where the major language of conversation is english. if its meant to be artistic or allude to something, i don\'t get it.


FYI //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MagrittePipe.jpg
The language of art is international. Using French or any other language in any piece of art is not a sign of disrespect or elitism. My objection was with the overuse of the famous "ceci n'est pas une pipe".
09/28/2012 12:37:56 PM · #22
you know I never thought about it, but there really are no flashing lights and signposts in your picture, at least no discernible ones, and not just not discernible by moi.
09/28/2012 01:09:09 PM · #23
yea i didnt assume it was elitism or anything, i just didn't get it. I looked at the title, made a guess at what it might mean, then google translated it. - and also didn't know about the overuse of that famous line. Thats something for me to look up i spose =)

Message edited by author 2012-09-28 13:09:58.
09/28/2012 07:50:03 PM · #24
Well, although the title of this thread translates as 'Yes, this is a banana' the title of your entry translates as 'This is not a banana'. You're wondering why people did not notice the obscure, blurry, yellow shape and realize it was the required banana? I took your title to be an indication that the banana shaped moon was the subject. I gave you 5. Apart from whether or not it met the challenge, to me the image was not appealing enough to lift it out of 'meh' range.
09/29/2012 02:00:57 AM · #25
No sweat, guys n gals - thanks for looking. There would have been a flashing light or two from the marina just down the coast there, but they're hidden by the banana.
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