TPL2 - Results Discussion Week 4

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

11/06/2013 12:39:01 AM · #1

Results Here

Message edited by author 2013-11-06 00:40:42.

beatabg

Google Pixel

11/06/2013 02:13:41 AM · #2

I know some groups had a week off and stuff, but to me it looks like things are getting REAL ;) GO Shady Sheep! :)

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littlemav

Nikon D90

11/06/2013 02:35:51 AM · #3

I'm Feeling a little Sheepish.... (BIG SMILE)

rjkstesch

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/06/2013 02:38:01 AM · #4

I wonder who will win? I think EWE will. ;-)

P-A-U-L

Canon EOS R6

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

11/06/2013 02:58:53 AM · #5

Baaaaaaa!

bohemka

Nikon D700

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG HSM for Nikon

11/06/2013 08:45:50 AM · #6

Semantics, as it doesn't influence the outcome in any way, but because I like to know ow the gears work, I'm wondering why in the match-up between the Shady Sheep and Quiet Riot, the first-place finishers ended in a tie?

Threshold was 2.94118.

Brennan: 100%
Beata: 97.0588%

Their spread: 2.9412, which is greater than the competition threshold of 2.94118. Obviously if you round the threshold you'll arrive at 2.9412, but on the surface it seems Brennan's just squeaked by if their percentages haven't already been rounded. What happens if you view their exact percentages to the same decimal place as the threshold?

Actually, just looking at that myself... why wasn't Beata's percentage 97.1429?

Sorry for the questions. Just trying to understand it.

Canon RF 24-105mm F/4L IS USM

11/06/2013 09:09:34 AM · #7

At this point we've decided it's an error.

The only remaining question is if we fix it now, or later... (We're strongly leaning towards now)

beatabg

Google Pixel

11/06/2013 09:19:37 AM · #8

I'm pretty much neutral if there is a tie or not because my team won anyway, but I'm wondering how often mistakes like that happen. Also, like

bohemka I was wondering why I wasn't at 97.1429 but I thought I'd just leave it (I was thinking that maybe I was mistaken).
Thanks for helping me understand it

bohemka :)

Message edited by author 2013-11-06 09:20:43.

hajeka

Canon EOS R5

11/06/2013 10:50:56 AM · #9

I guess Cory will update the scores soon (No difference in the team results).

Quick (mathematical) note about the 97.1429. That's the easy way to calculate percentiles, but would give the brown more than 0%. Current percentile calculations gives the blue 100%, the brown 0%. So the 97.0588% (sorry for all the digits, perhaps we need less) are correct. But you may convince me otherwise :)

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-70mm f/4 S

11/06/2013 11:08:34 AM · #10

Updated Results.

Kroburg

Nikon Z6II

11/06/2013 11:49:13 AM · #11

Both scores were from Vegetable Faces. How can you call it a draw, when there's a clear difference between first and second place. Threshold should not be an issue here.

hajeka

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-105mm F/4L IS USM

11/06/2013 11:52:43 AM · #12

Originally posted by Kroburg:

Both scores were from Vegetable Faces. How can you call it a draw, when there's a clear difference between first and second place. Threshold should not be an issue here.

It's already updated!

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

11/06/2013 11:57:25 AM · #13

Originally posted by hajeka:

Originally posted by Kroburg:
Both scores were from Vegetable Faces. How can you call it a draw, when there's a clear difference between first and second place. Threshold should not be an issue here.

It's already updated!

If I'm reading Kroburg's question correctly, it's more of why were thresholds even in the equation when you have an apples to apples (same challenge) comparison to make?

ETA - I don't think it's an accusation BTW, more of an inquiry. :-)

Message edited by author 2013-11-06 11:58:52.

Kroburg

Nikon Z6II

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-70mm f/4 S

11/06/2013 12:04:44 PM · #14

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by hajeka:

Originally posted by Kroburg:
Both scores were from Vegetable Faces. How can you call it a draw, when there's a clear difference between first and second place. Threshold should not be an issue here.

It's already updated!

If I'm reading Kroburg's question correctly, it's more of why were thresholds even in the equation when you have an apples to apples (same challenge) comparison to make?

ETA - I don't think it's an accusation BTW, more of an inquiry. :-)

Exactly (thank you

glad2badad), sorry when my question was not clear in this, but this is my point indeed. I can understand the threshold factor for comparing the results of 2 different challenges, but here it was one and the same challenge. I know the results are updated, but I thought this was because of

Bohemka's question concerning the actual differences in scores compared to the threshold value.

Message edited by author 2013-11-06 12:06:18.