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11/12/2015 09:55:30 AM · #1
so, painterly photo is running under Advanced rules.... how much allowance is there going to be in validation given that most of what would be considered "painterly" it usually involves creating strokes, or at least brushy kind of effects?
11/12/2015 10:13:30 AM · #2
Am guessing the voters will have first crack at deciding how much is too much?

Looks like I'll be indoors for a few days due to the weather but had thought something like this would work? editing consisted of hitting auto tone then punch in LR.



11/12/2015 10:19:54 AM · #3
SC tended to be a bit more lenient in the last similar challenge.

11/12/2015 11:03:35 AM · #4
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

SC tended to be a bit more lenient in the last similar challenge.



that was a lovely shot and processing
11/12/2015 11:51:13 AM · #5
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

SC tended to be a bit more lenient in the last similar challenge.


Everyone please bear in mind the following cautionary note from SC on Margaret's image:

Originally posted by SC:

Just a quick note to say, although highly effective, this is a DQ-able edit (for the creation of new image features). It split SC opinion but the nature of the challenge meant that we felt that this was an understandable response to the challenge. Human discretion has won out.

Please don't use this image as a reference case to avoid future DQs in less specialised challenges though. (A general note, not specifically aimed at this photographer).

So, please don't get any crazier than this; it wouldn't end well :-(
11/12/2015 01:04:37 PM · #6
I'd be interested in a "painterly without brushstrokes" challenge... force people to think of less obvious things that make a painting like a painting.
11/12/2015 01:08:19 PM · #7
this photo looks like a painting without a brushstroke texture layered on. I don't know what his processing steps were, but there are plenty of flat areas of color

11/12/2015 01:34:47 PM · #8
Originally posted by posthumous:

this photo looks like a painting without a brushstroke texture layered on. I don't know what his processing steps were, but there are plenty of flat areas of color



agreed. probably simplify and flat processing... thr highlights are still a liitle too strong though
11/12/2015 01:35:15 PM · #9
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

SC tended to be a bit more lenient in the last similar challenge.


Everyone please bear in mind the following cautionary note from SC on Margaret's image:

Originally posted by SC:

Just a quick note to say, although highly effective, this is a DQ-able edit (for the creation of new image features). It split SC opinion but the nature of the challenge meant that we felt that this was an understandable response to the challenge. Human discretion has won out.

Please don't use this image as a reference case to avoid future DQs in less specialised challenges though. (A general note, not specifically aimed at this photographer).

So, please don't get any crazier than this; it wouldn't end well :-(


thanks for the feedback
11/12/2015 02:33:51 PM · #10
Originally posted by posthumous:

I'd be interested in a "painterly without brushstrokes" challenge... force people to think of less obvious things that make a painting like a painting.

I'm certainly hoping plenty of folks will go in that direction in this challenge, emulating light and painterly tones without obvious layering of effects. The difficulty with trying to encode that into a special rule is, "When is a stroke not a brushstroke?", so to speak.
11/12/2015 03:24:01 PM · #11
the devil crept in under the "painterly" cloak.
11/12/2015 04:12:56 PM · #12
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by posthumous:

I'd be interested in a "painterly without brushstrokes" challenge... force people to think of less obvious things that make a painting like a painting.

I'm certainly hoping plenty of folks will go in that direction in this challenge, emulating light and painterly tones without obvious layering of effects. The difficulty with trying to encode that into a special rule is, "When is a stroke not a brushstroke?", so to speak.
right, not as a special rule, just in the title
11/12/2015 05:10:12 PM · #13
very little editing - original (resized):


and there may be more between heaven and earth, Horatio -


Message edited by author 2015-11-12 17:26:41.
11/12/2015 07:04:13 PM · #14
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

SC tended to be a bit more lenient in the last similar challenge.



I am sorry to say that this is in my opinion a very poor example for this challenge and altogether one of the less impressive photos produced by marnet
In my view this is a hybrid image: not a painting, not a photograph, not digital art, not part of conceptual art.
I appreciate a lot marnet's images with the exception of the ones that try to become a copy of some impressionist art
11/12/2015 07:04:21 PM · #15
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by posthumous:

I'd be interested in a "painterly without brushstrokes" challenge... force people to think of less obvious things that make a painting like a painting.

I'm certainly hoping plenty of folks will go in that direction in this challenge, emulating light and painterly tones without obvious layering of effects. The difficulty with trying to encode that into a special rule is, "When is a stroke not a brushstroke?", so to speak.


So glad that you mentioned this.
I would urge people to go beyond the obvious tools found in any photoshop application under "artistic". I would also urge to get past impressionism and post impressionism.
Let's this be a real challenge and not produce hybrid images, photos that can be taken as painting and sold a dime a dozen at a street fair. Not an easy task I must add.

Definition of painterly:
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of a painter; artistic.
2.
a. Having qualities unique to the art of painting.
b. Of, relating to, or being a style of painting marked by openness of form, with shapes distinguished by variations of color rather than by outline or contour.


Surely not only brush strokes and diffused light.
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