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11/23/2015 08:00:24 AM · #1
I liked it and honestly, was surprised at the end finish. Something I must really be missing. ???

11/23/2015 08:33:21 AM · #2
Think that 80% of the image is too dark.
My score would be 4.
11/23/2015 09:24:24 AM · #3
At home (on my 24 inch monitor) this picture is detailed, but still on the dark side.
On my cellphone (7inch screen) it looks ok, but not impressive. The sun is nice.
On the laptop at work it's really not good looking. I gave you a 6 when I voted at home. probably lower if voted at work.
about the image itself, I believe it should be nice to include more sky. The panorama is very large but only the left and right part are interesting.
I think that 5.5 is a fair score for the image

Message edited by author 2015-11-23 09:25:11.
11/23/2015 09:35:23 AM · #4
Ok. It sucked. :-P Darn it. Thanks though.
11/23/2015 10:11:47 AM · #5
I think the sun flare overwhelms the image. I did a rudimentary edit removing the sun and darkening the sky and it allowed the eye to pay more attention to the foreground elements. I also think the backlit trees needed to be a bit brighter / sharper. I'm not sure the sky edit would be legal in Advanced, however. For the record, you got a 6 from me.

Message edited by author 2015-11-23 10:12:12.
11/23/2015 10:14:01 AM · #6
First impression - its too dark with not much detail showing. A little bit of post ptocessing to bring up shadows would have done it justice.
11/23/2015 10:54:58 AM · #7
In general, there's really not much happening in this image. It's a very decent piece of minimalism, and the rock on the right is very tasty, but overall it just kind of sits there and doesn't speak up at all, a wallflower sort of image, ya know? This is actually a general problem with panoramas; for the most part, they seem to rely on being wide and not much else. The best panoramas, of course, succeed as images in their own right. The blue ribbon in this challenge is a fine example :-) Indeed, the top 5 in the challenge all meet that criterion. I keep going back to them as photographs, not as panoramas, if you catch my drift?

A good example of what I'm talking about is some of those PetaPixel super hi-def images we see, where you can go deeper and deeper into them and wallow in the detail; look at them as images, all in one frame, and quite a few of them are pretty blah...

Message edited by author 2015-11-23 10:58:13.
11/23/2015 11:29:00 AM · #8
The image suffers from what I call a "context" problem. The photographer is privy to much more detail, plus the experience of capturing it, as well as any people that might be there to share the event. All of that, however, is off-camera and does not come across in the image. So the image has much more meaning for the photographer, but nobody else can see why.
11/23/2015 11:31:25 AM · #9
Originally posted by tanguera:

The image suffers from what I call a "context" problem. The photographer is privy to much more detail, plus the experience of capturing it, as well as any people that might be there to share the event. All of that, however, is off-camera and does not come across in the image. So the image has much more meaning for the photographer, but nobody else can see why.

+1

What she said.

It's not a bad shot, it's just not a wow shot.
11/23/2015 11:47:28 AM · #10
Originally posted by tanguera:

The image suffers from what I call a "context" problem. The photographer is privy to much more detail, plus the experience of capturing it, as well as any people that might be there to share the event. All of that, however, is off-camera and does not come across in the image. So the image has much more meaning for the photographer, but nobody else can see why.

Absolutely spot on! I can still "see it", but didn't convey it (not sure really that I could have looking at it now in retrospect).

So ... you had to be there y'all! :-D
11/23/2015 11:55:17 AM · #11
Many of the panorama images seemed to be lacking in foreground elements - maybe that's the nature of panorama- but it still looks better when a subject draws the eye into the foreground IMHO.
Maybe I spent too much time on the post-processing challenge (or not enough) ... But here I removed a section from the middle (including the sun) , used shadow/HL to get some of the shadows to show up, and bumped the contrast / highlights with dodge/burn.


eta: to be clear, my edit sucks. I just wanted to illustrate that i felt the sun and middle of the composition were taking attention from the cool stuff on the sides. =)

Message edited by author 2015-11-23 13:00:05.
11/23/2015 12:10:30 PM · #12
... but, but, but .... I LIKED the sun in there! ;)
11/23/2015 12:11:11 PM · #13
If I was ever itching for a "do-over", this is it ... can't WAIT to try another Panorama challenge.
11/23/2015 12:50:08 PM · #14
this got a 5 from me, which was high for a landscape.

but really I just love when someone posts a score that is high for me and asks why it sucks so bad.
11/23/2015 01:32:22 PM · #15
Is it only me, but I feel the rocks on the right look like a middlefinger
11/23/2015 02:44:59 PM · #16
I agree with a lot of what has been said, in particular Da Bear and Johanna's comments. My own feelings as I voted on it were that I wanted more, vertically. The image is so long with comparison to its height (over 4:1) that I felt like I was looking through a slit. I'd specifically like a little more sky, and some additional foreground. The foreground may have been problematic, I don't know what was there, but given the rocks at right it would seem that there might have been some things that could have added interest in the image.
With regard to the "dark" comments, I too agree that the near side of the mountains in shadow is quite dark, and that perhaps could have been rectified by judicious lifting of the shadows, or by taking an additional set of exposures (HDR).
11/23/2015 02:47:57 PM · #17
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Is it only me, but I feel the rocks on the right look like a middlefinger

Which I think from some people would earn a couple of bonus points, and from others a similar deduction ... :-)
11/23/2015 02:58:52 PM · #18
Originally posted by posthumous:

this got a 5 from me, which was high for a landscape.

but really I just love when someone posts a score that is high for me and asks why it sucks so bad.

Ummmm .... sorry? :-? Your vote is very much appreciated Don. :-)
11/23/2015 03:06:08 PM · #19
Originally posted by kirbic:

I agree with a lot of what has been said, in particular Da Bear and Johanna's comments. My own feelings as I voted on it were that I wanted more, vertically. The image is so long with comparison to its height (over 4:1) that I felt like I was looking through a slit. I'd specifically like a little more sky, and some additional foreground. The foreground may have been problematic, I don't know what was there, but given the rocks at right it would seem that there might have been some things that could have added interest in the image.
With regard to the "dark" comments, I too agree that the near side of the mountains in shadow is quite dark, and that perhaps could have been rectified by judicious lifting of the shadows, or by taking an additional set of exposures (HDR).

Had the camera set to the wide Panorama setting I think (would have to go back and look) ... AND I worked really hard to get that tree on the left and the rocks on the right. NUMEROUS takes to get it "just right". :-D Those were my "foreground" elements at the time ... I'm standing on some boulders to get the view, maybe another view point would have been better - don't know. Another thing to consider for next time. Yep - I could have massaged the shadows more. Part of the problem is that I edit in a pretty dark room so for me I "saw" something close to what I remembered at the time of capture.

I get the point (all of them) now. :D Thanks much one and all.

11/23/2015 03:11:22 PM · #20
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by posthumous:

this got a 5 from me, which was high for a landscape.

but really I just love when someone posts a score that is high for me and asks why it sucks so bad.

Ummmm .... sorry? :-? Your vote is very much appreciated Don. :-)
hmph...I'll get over it.
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