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02/13/2016 06:35:04 PM · #1 |
Shooting for the Wall challenge, I had just taken this shot and I turned around and this guy  was there saying 'If you don't get that thing out of my face I'll f%@&*$g smash your head in with it.' I didn't have it in his face (and took that photo of his back from some distance after he'd gone). But I always feel a bit uncomfortable shooting in public places and this left a nasty taste.
How many of you get this and how does it affect you? |
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02/13/2016 06:39:56 PM · #2 |
| What an unfortunate incident. I'm not a street photographer so I totally understand your discomfort. When I am out and about, I am generally shooting locations or models I'm with. So I'm VERY aware of my surroundings to make sure someone isn't inadvertently in the shot. If they are, I wait for them to get out of the way, or ask them if they want to be in the shot. Most of the time they get out of the way, but sometimes they clown it up for me a bit which can result in a fun shot. |
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02/13/2016 07:13:24 PM · #3 |
sounds like he was looking for someone to get mad at. it happens. it is unpleasant. carrying a camera isn't exactly for free. and sometimes people don't even like you looking at them. it is all part of the animal that we are. - what I mean is that I don't have an answer, though I do look for work-arounds - smiling, requesting and avoiding...
Message edited by author 2016-02-13 19:15:14. |
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02/13/2016 08:10:28 PM · #4 |
Sucks,  jomari, but you can't be too careful sometimes. FWIW going by what he said he was probably stoned out of his last brain cell and paranoid as crap for some reason.
I had a similar encounter last year when visiting my parents. I was walking through a park, en route to a little noodle bar for some lunch, when some local street youth began yelling at me to take my hands off my camera and not take pics of him and his friends, that they were always having their photos taken and sick of it. I wasn't even paying any attention to him or any of them til then!
So I obediently kept my hands off the camera (equipped as it was with that dangerous 50mm, dontchaknow) and learned from the owner of the noodle bar that very soon cameras would be installed in the park. So, like it or not asshole, soon there will be PLENTY of pics being taken of you and your buddies and you won't be able to do a damn thing about it!!!
And if I see this tossoff during my visit out west this year, and he tries his crap with me again, I'm calling the cops on him for harassment. |
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02/13/2016 09:26:43 PM · #5 |
| hey, remember when we were shooting down on the wharf and the buddy of a crane operator came way out of his way to tell us (not ask) not to take the operator's photo? say, why not bring your super woman costume and we can go about showing folks a thing or two? |
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02/13/2016 09:52:21 PM · #6 |
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02/13/2016 09:54:47 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by tnun:
hey, remember when we were shooting down on the wharf and the buddy of a crane operator came way out of his way to tell us (not ask) not to take the operator's photo? say, why not bring your super woman costume and we can go about showing folks a thing or two? |
Yeah I remember that, I said to that guy we couldn't see him anyway...wonder what he was wanted for? Deadbeat dad? Serial killer? And yes maybe I will bring that outfit with me and we'll go around scaring everyone with being Super Snaffled 
Message edited by author 2016-02-13 21:56:35. |
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02/13/2016 09:58:21 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
I just use a long lens. |
In addition to a 400+mm lens I got a camera with a flip/rotate LCD, so I can compose while holding the camera at waist-level ... it also helps to have gotten some crisis-intervention training when dealing with those experiencing a reality differing significantly from mine ... |
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02/13/2016 11:32:04 PM · #9 |
I use my iPhone camera when shooting in public & I plug in my ear buds, too. Mostly, people assume I'm listening to music. I shoot on the fly. Once or twice, I've noticed someone feeling suspicious that I might be taking their picture, but since I'm already on the move I just move along a little bit quicker & avoid them.
So, I'm wondering...I've never noticed anyone taking my picture in public. Not once. But if I did, how would I feel, what would I do? I think I'd do what I do at parties where people have cameras, which is make myself into a bad (uninteresting) subject as I move on out of range. |
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02/14/2016 03:32:55 AM · #10 |
| I've been yelled at in a variety of places for taking photos of people when I wasn't even shooting in their direction. I usually just say "sorry" and move along. It just happens when people see a photographer. |
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02/14/2016 06:45:54 AM · #11 |
Some people are just nasty. Some people just want to intimidate someone. Some people are just... well, you know.
I'd rather have them say something and walk away than deal with what happened to me 11 months ago.
Message edited by author 2016-02-14 06:46:12. |
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02/14/2016 12:45:40 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:
Some people are just nasty. Some people just want to intimidate someone. Some people are just... well, you know.
I'd rather have them say something and walk away than deal with what happened to me 11 months ago. |
Oh yeah! |
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02/14/2016 02:17:29 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by jomari:
Shooting for the Wall challenge, I had just taken this shot and I turned around and this guy was there saying 'If you don't get that thing out of my face I'll f%@&*$g smash your head in with it.' I didn't have it in his face... |
Oh GEE! I'm sorry that happened to you. I like Gen's comment " ... when dealing with those experiencing a reality differing significantly from mine ..."
Hahahaha!
And... this just serves to reinforce why I hate to shoot in public... especially alone.
I'm glad you're okay.
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02/14/2016 02:48:46 PM · #14 |
| I shoot in public everyday, I take at least a hundred in your face photos every week and I never have a problem, I do try to judge my surroundings and I do try not to offend anyone. Maybe in America the attitude to photographers is different than Europe, or maybe it's just more violent ? I shot in South Africa for three weeks last month and never had a problem either, only smiles and giggles. |
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02/14/2016 03:00:17 PM · #15 |
| North America, especially the lower 48, is paranoid: someone is to blame, the reasoning goes, so it might as well be some joker with a black box and no identifiable purpose, other than to incriminate or exploit you. Aargh, I hate even saying this. |
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02/14/2016 03:57:10 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:
Some people are just nasty. Some people just want to intimidate someone. Some people are just... well, you know.
I'd rather have them say something and walk away than deal with what happened to me 11 months ago. |
This would have been really upsetting.
As you say, some people are just nasty, you get them everywhere. (I live in Australia). It seems my choice is give up or suck it up.
Message edited by author 2016-02-14 16:03:34. |
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02/14/2016 06:26:47 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by jomari:
As you say, some people are just nasty, you get them everywhere. (I live in Australia). It seems my choice is give up or suck it up. |
When you shoot street or just on the street I think you need to be prepared to interact with the other folks out there, for better and for worse. Giving it up is heartbreaking, and after my experience it actually took me about 6 weeks before I felt comfortable shooting ANYTHING again (I am so thankful that folks here did a "big month" birding thing in April that kept me shooting even though it was only in my backyard). That said, I love shooting people, even though I've shied away from it, and if you're both approachable and look like you're comfortable while you're shooting, these things should be the exception and not the rule. |
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02/14/2016 06:59:01 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by jagar:
I shoot in public everyday, I take at least a hundred in your face photos every week and I never have a problem, I do try to judge my surroundings and I do try not to offend anyone. Maybe in America the attitude to photographers is different than Europe, or maybe it's just more violent ? I shot in South Africa for three weeks last month and never had a problem either, only smiles and giggles. |
Paranoia seems rampant in countries with minimal gun control laws. 'nuff said. That one run-in I had was the only one I've had so far. |
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02/14/2016 09:08:01 PM · #19 |
Marion, you were simply in the wrong place in the wrong time. This guy probably leaves a trail of unhappy and confused bystanders in his wake. It's his problem, not yours. I don't even think it has anything to do with you carrying a camera. He probably has similar encounters with people who look at him the wrong way. One day it will catch up with him.
You can be completely vigilant and sensitive and still have encounters like this. I certainly don't think it calls for you to change your m.o. when photographing in public. You did the right think by defusing the situation.
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