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11/04/2016 01:50:17 AM · #1 |
I had some time to vote and comment on all entries already
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11/04/2016 04:01:26 AM · #2 |
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11/06/2016 02:14:41 AM · #3 |
It makes me wonder about the challenge of Portrait of one person. Photograph an interesting person. Try to drill deep and help us "understand" your subject. I tried to do just that but not doing so well. I see lots of portraiture and only a few of what the challenge asked for. I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged.
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11/06/2016 04:24:55 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
.... I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged..... |
To take another point of view, some of my favourite portraits are studio shots where you can see the hard work of the photog in capturing the right gesture, expression, etc has paid off. Usually this is not just about technicals but also about relating to the subject in order to create the right environment\mood\etc. |
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11/06/2016 09:08:59 AM · #5 |
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11/06/2016 10:34:35 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
. . . I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged. . . . |
To me the challenge was "Portrait of a Single Human". That could be "staged" (posed, planned) or candid. I figured the description was added to encourage us to do our best though as is often the case - but I would hope we do that anyway.
For me, a good portrait will make me want to get to know the subject - or make me glad I do not know him or her :) - and the circumstances of the taking don't really matter. I can understand, however, that for some a candid (or apparently candid) portrait will have more appeal, for others a studio shot might be more likely to elicit a response.
Message edited by author 2016-11-06 12:28:26. |
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11/06/2016 11:20:04 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Try to drill deep and help us "understand" your subject. I tried to do just that but not doing so well. I see lots of portraiture and only a few of what the challenge asked for. I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged. |
Broadly speaking, one would *expect* a portrait to be "staged". Certainly classic portrait work is staged. If you want to see examples of very classic work that DOES "drill deep" check out Yousuf Karsh :-) |
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11/06/2016 11:40:51 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
If you want to see examples of very classic work that DOES "drill deep" check out Yousuf Karsh :-) |
Thanks for the link Bear. Well worth time time to puruse!
Message edited by author 2016-11-06 11:41:19. |
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11/06/2016 12:27:19 PM · #9 |
duplicate - meant to edit a previous post for clarity.
Message edited by author 2016-11-06 12:27:53. |
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11/06/2016 05:02:01 PM · #10 |
| Great answers, lets see who has what to say about this challenge.🤓 |
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11/06/2016 07:27:25 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Nam:
For me, a good portrait will make me want to get to know the subject - or make me glad I do not know him or her :) - and the circumstances of the taking don't really matter. I can understand, however, that for some a candid (or apparently candid) portrait will have more appeal, for others a studio shot might be more likely to elicit a response. |
Thank you Robert, you always seem to explain the details in a very encouraging manner. I do appreciate your help and thank you for the link. Would it be possible to have a challenge for professional photographer only. I don't have the equipment for that type of challenge but it might be a very good learning tool.
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11/06/2016 08:42:25 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
For me, a good portrait will make me want to get to know the subject - or make me glad I do not know him or her :) - and the circumstances of the taking don't really matter. I can understand, however, that for some a candid (or apparently candid) portrait will have more appeal, for others a studio shot might be more likely to elicit a response.
Thank you Robert, you always seem to explain the details in a very encouraging manner. I do appreciate your help and thank you for the link. Would it be possible to have a challenge for professional photographer only. I don't have the equipment for that type of challenge but it might be a very good learning tool. |
You have quoted from my response, not from Robert's. The link was Robert's, however, and an excellent one that I, too, enjoyed very much.
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11/06/2016 09:11:32 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Would it be possible to have a challenge for professional photographer only. I don't have the equipment for that type of challenge but it might be a very good learning tool. |
I don't think that will ever happen :-) In the first place, how would we define and enforce the criterion "professional"? |
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11/06/2016 11:23:13 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
It makes me wonder about the challenge of Portrait of one person. Photograph an interesting person. Try to drill deep and help us "understand" your subject. I tried to do just that but not doing so well. I see lots of portraiture and only a few of what the challenge asked for. I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged.
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I immediately thought posed, simply because I would think it would be hard to drill deep in a candid. |
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11/07/2016 01:12:44 AM · #15 |
| I'm sorry Nam, I do thank you for helping me understand it's really how the photographer reads the challenge and thank you Robert for the link. Wendy, you also have some great takes on the challenges. You really know how to think outside the box with exceptional imagination. |
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11/07/2016 01:22:38 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Would it be possible to have a challenge for professional photographer only. I don't have the equipment for that type of challenge but it might be a very good learning tool. |
I don't think that will ever happen :-) In the first place, how would we define and enforce the criterion "professional"? |
How about all those who actually have a studio even those who work on cruise ships. It would really be a great study just like the photographs in the link you posted. If someone wants to compete in the challenge who doesn't have a studio or someone who deems themselves as pros, that would be fine also. I know there are many on here just like myself that loves photography and never had the chance to do anything with it until now. We could learn about studio photography and how to photograph our family, friends and pets with minimum tools It was just a thought after I saw the link. No Biggy. |
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11/07/2016 02:41:35 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Try to drill deep and help us "understand" your subject. I tried to do just that but not doing so well. I see lots of portraiture and only a few of what the challenge asked for. I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged. |
Broadly speaking, one would *expect* a portrait to be "staged". Certainly classic portrait work is staged. If you want to see examples of very classic work that DOES "drill deep" check out Yousuf Karsh :-) |
thanks for the link |
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11/07/2016 09:04:25 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Try to drill deep and help us "understand" your subject. I tried to do just that but not doing so well. I see lots of portraiture and only a few of what the challenge asked for. I find it hard to read a portrait when it's staged. |
Broadly speaking, one would *expect* a portrait to be "staged". Certainly classic portrait work is staged. If you want to see examples of very classic work that DOES "drill deep" check out Yousuf Karsh :-) |
But the topic description did not say, specifically, "classic" portrait. I believe "candid" portraits are also a possibility for this challenge and I see several good ones amongst the entries. |
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11/07/2016 10:08:11 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
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But the topic description did not say, specifically, "classic" portrait. I believe "candid" portraits are also a possibility for this challenge and I see several good ones amongst the entries. |
Yep, and that's the funny thing here.  Cyrilda seemed to be reading it as encouraging more the candid side so I tried to provide a little balance by saying it could as easily be posed. [user]BearMusic[/user], probably also kind of reacting to Cyrilda's presumed assumption then provided that lovely link and we were off to the races on the other side of the fence LOL I love it! |
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11/07/2016 12:45:35 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cyrilda:
Would it be possible to have a challenge for professional photographer only. I don't have the equipment for that type of challenge but it might be a very good learning tool. |
I don't think that will ever happen :-) In the first place, how would we define and enforce the criterion "professional"? |
How about all those who actually have a studio even those who work on cruise ships. It would really be a great study just like the photographs in the link you posted. If someone wants to compete in the challenge who doesn't have a studio or someone who deems themselves as pros, that would be fine also. I know there are many on here just like myself that loves photography and never had the chance to do anything with it until now. We could learn about studio photography and how to photograph our family, friends and pets with minimum tools It was just a thought after I saw the link. No Biggy. |
Oh, for sure. We've had "studio lighting" challenges before. I just meant we're not gonna LIMIT a challenge to "pros" :-) |
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