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02/09/2017 10:48:35 AM · #1
...and this is the challenge topic I wish was posted up:

The leaves are all dead on the ground,
Save those that the oak is keeping
To ravel them one by one
And let them go scraping and creeping
Out over the crusted snow,
When others are sleeping.


If THAT was a challenge topic, I could just nail it cold today :-) Of course, it isn't, and it won't ever be, but that's what I'm thinking as I sit here waiting for the blizzard to smack us in the face...

(Credit to Robert Frost, "Reluctance", BTW)

Message edited by author 2017-02-09 10:49:15.
02/09/2017 12:51:28 PM · #2
Sounds like a great challenge suggestion!!!
02/09/2017 01:21:44 PM · #3
The mob would lynch me if I dared do it, LOL...
02/09/2017 02:14:45 PM · #4
You could make it a "Robert Frost" (or "frost"?) challenge -- or some poetry which is not song lyrics.

02/09/2017 04:02:18 PM · #5
If you mean the poem, that might be a bit exclusive.

But 'I'm looking out my window' might be a good challenge suggestion.
02/09/2017 06:15:44 PM · #6
Originally posted by jomari:

If you mean the poem, that might be a bit exclusive.

But 'I'm looking out my window' might be a good challenge suggestion.

Yeah, except you know DPCers; most at least some of us would run to the nearest scenic restaurant or go up a skyscraper or some danged thing :-) Remember the "37 Steps" challenge or whatever it was?

Message edited by author 2017-02-09 18:16:23.
02/09/2017 07:05:19 PM · #7
Ah yes, I remember. :-(
02/09/2017 07:19:27 PM · #8
Poke it up to the big man!!!
02/09/2017 07:22:05 PM · #9
Originally posted by Ja-9:

Poke it up to the big man!!!

Huh?
02/09/2017 09:27:46 PM · #10
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by jomari:

If you mean the poem, that might be a bit exclusive.

But 'I'm looking out my window' might be a good challenge suggestion.

Yeah, except you know DPCers; most at least some of us would run to the nearest scenic restaurant or go up a skyscraper or some danged thing :-) Remember the "37 Steps" challenge or whatever it was?


ROFL, the tent!!!
02/09/2017 09:41:41 PM · #11
Originally posted by JulietNN:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by jomari:

If you mean the poem, that might be a bit exclusive.

But 'I'm looking out my window' might be a good challenge suggestion.

Yeah, except you know DPCers; most at least some of us would run to the nearest scenic restaurant or go up a skyscraper or some danged thing :-) Remember the "37 Steps" challenge or whatever it was?


ROFL, the tent!!!


huh?
02/09/2017 09:47:31 PM · #12
If I remember correctly (which could be an issue) the 37 steps was from your front door. Someone got a ribbon (maybe) of them in a tent on a picture perfect beach with 'maybe' a perfect sunrise. But this was many many years ago. I could be wrong, but I think that is what Bear was referring too.
02/09/2017 10:57:17 PM · #13
Not sure about the tent or the sunrise but I'm pretty sure you're right about the picture perfect beach ... and that that was no where near the shooter's home.

And welcome back Juliet!

Message edited by author 2017-02-09 23:04:29.
02/09/2017 11:04:59 PM · #14
I'm looking out my window...

I'm looking out the window...
02/09/2017 11:31:57 PM · #15
Originally posted by markwiley:

I'm looking out my window...

I'm looking out the window...


Oh yes, that would work well. No need for deceptions or recriminations.
02/10/2017 01:10:30 AM · #16
Originally posted by JulietNN:

If I remember correctly (which could be an issue) the 37 steps was from your front door. Someone got a ribbon (maybe) of them in a tent on a picture perfect beach with 'maybe' a perfect sunrise. But this was many many years ago. I could be wrong, but I think that is what Bear was referring too.

Close. Here's the challenge description:

Originally posted by 47 Steps Challenge:

Description:
Walk out the door of your home, choose any direction you like, and walk in as straight a line as possible for 35 steps. Stop. Choose another direction and walk 6 steps in as straight a line as possible. Stop. Choose yet another direction and again walk 6 steps in as straight a line as possible. Stop. Without moving another step, create the most interesting photograph you can from that spot.

Pretty specific, eh? Now, there's actually probably a number of people that played fast & loose with that challenge description, which was designed to encourage an introspective examination of the photographer's personal environs. Something like this one, say, where I followed the description literally and depicted what was there;



Now, it's impossible to say how many people actually "honored" the challenge literally, but obviously there's quite a few that didn't. And the voters, of course, as always, rewarded the "prettiest" or "best" pictures without much deviation from the norm. And there was one particular image, the 5th-place image, where the photographer posted this in his comments when he entered his image:

Originally posted by Nuzzer:

So this is nowhere near where I live but if you didn't know that until you read this then it doesn't really matter does it? ;)

This was taken during the Auckland GTG

Now, understandably, this generated an uproar at the time. Some of the debate was civil, but there was also a lot of name-calling, and it was pretty nasty. Nuzzer, after all, broke no rules; he just didn't bother trying to meet the challenge, which is generally OK if the challenge is, say, "Blue" and you choose to enter something red, but does it become something else when the challenge is so specific and you ignore it? If you're interested in following the discussion 8 years later, you can use my thumb above to navigate back to the challenge itself and check out the results.

Suffice it to say, that challenge is why we almost never run challenges that depend on the voluntary compliance of the entrants to be "fair". There was another time, btw, when a challenge specified a particular shutter speed (was it 30 seconds?) and one of the ribboners only made a 2-second exposure, something like that. Same uproar. It wasn't DQable since challenge descriptions aren't "rules". We've gotten around that a few times since by "flagging" a special rule into the challenge, which makes non-compliance an automatic DQ, but there's no way we can do that with something as unknowable as where a person actually lives, say, or what car they actually drive.

I'm rambling. It's an interesting issue to delve into, mentally, and gets to the core of how different people relate to challenges and contests, basically.

ETA: Turns out I'm the one who started the thread about this situation back in 2009, the one that's linked in Nuzzer's notes; I'd forgotten that. And to be honest, I'm not real pleased looking back at how strident I was being; I'd like to think I've gotten a little more realistic in the intervening years :-)

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