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09/18/2017 12:21:05 PM · #1
I am very surprised to see the Dada challenge is not with the Extended ruleset.
Trying to figure out how to do this in Standard editing.
09/18/2017 02:24:32 PM · #2
Doing a search for Dadaist Photography might be helpful.
09/18/2017 02:40:37 PM · #3
Originally posted by K3Master:

Doing a search for Dadaist Photography might be helpful.


Oh sure, easy peasy, lemon squeezy... :)

09/18/2017 03:10:13 PM · #4
I thought the same thing, but then I thought the challenge of Standard Editing might be fun!
09/18/2017 03:24:54 PM · #5
Go build a structure, put it in a lake, and shoot yourself in a suit.

09/18/2017 03:25:12 PM · #6
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Originally posted by K3Master:

Doing a search for Dadaist Photography might be helpful.


Oh sure, easy peasy, lemon squeezy... :)


Hehe
09/18/2017 03:45:57 PM · #7
Originally posted by Lydia:

Go build a structure, put it in a lake, and shoot yourself in a suit.


that's not dadaism, but surrealism.
09/18/2017 07:09:38 PM · #8
Interesting...

Could it not be BOTH?

"Dada (or Dadaism) was an art movement of the European avant-garde in the early 20th century. Developed in reaction to World War I, the Dada movement consisted of artists who rejected the logic, reason, and aestheticism of modern capitalist society, instead expressing nonsense, irrationality, and anti-bourgeois protest in their works. Create a dada-rific photograph."

Please help me understand.
09/19/2017 08:08:49 AM · #9
Just been looking at the photos listed as Dada-esque on Google, and most of them would definitely call for Extended editing.

After all it seems ridiculous to have made Cubism an Extended challenge, and then Dadaism as Standard.
09/19/2017 11:04:05 AM · #10
Originally posted by Lydia:

Interesting...

Could it not be BOTH?

"Dada (or Dadaism) was an art movement of the European avant-garde in the early 20th century. Developed in reaction to World War I, the Dada movement consisted of artists who rejected the logic, reason, and aestheticism of modern capitalist society, instead expressing nonsense, irrationality, and anti-bourgeois protest in their works. Create a dada-rific photograph."

Please help me understand.


Surrealism is short for "super realism." It is characterized by attempts to mine the subconscious.

Dada is simply a rebellion. It is irreverent, sometimes scary, sometimes fun, hopefully both.

or, if you like equations: Dada = Surrealism - Freud

or you could do what Gyaban did for Surrealism and search it on Google images and then just copy one of the images.

09/19/2017 11:11:06 AM · #11
It just goes to show how much extended editing has really curtailed physical creativity here, IMO. There are all kinds of ways to build a scene outside of Photoshop, if you just take a little time and effort. But C'est la Vie eh?
09/19/2017 12:50:58 PM · #12
The challenge topic was pulled out of the queue from a long time ago; it just never got scheduled before. It was posted up as "Advanced" editing, FWIW. My opinion? It's an interesting, challenging challenge in Standard editing, and doing it in Extended editing would take a lot of the challenge out of it. If the challenge gets folks to study Dadaism a little bit and be influenced by it at a gut level, it will have done its job, so to speak :-)
09/19/2017 01:04:01 PM · #13
Originally posted by K3Master:

It just goes to show how much extended editing has really curtailed physical creativity here, IMO. There are all kinds of ways to build a scene outside of Photoshop, if you just take a little time and effort. But C'est la Vie eh?


Really? can't wait to see what you will come with.

some build scene's outside of photoshop











09/19/2017 01:04:09 PM · #14
Originally posted by posthumous:

Surrealism is short for "super realism." It is characterized by attempts to mine the subconscious.

According to the Wikipedia article it's short for "supernaturalism", not "super realism" which I think is quite the opposite ...
Originally posted by Wikipedia:

The word 'surrealism' was coined in March 1917 by Guillaume Apollinaire three years before Surrealism emerged as an art movement in Paris.[5] He wrote in a letter to Paul Dermée: "All things considered, I think in fact it is better to adopt surrealism than supernaturalism, which I first used" [Tout bien examiné, je crois en effet qu'il vaut mieux adopter surréalisme que surnaturalisme que j'avais d'abord employé].
09/19/2017 01:55:26 PM · #15
If I had a modicum of talent at things like conceiving of and building sets - life-sized or miniature - like gyaban and GeorgesBogaert do, I'd already be bashing something together. So envious of those who are able to do so and pull it all off. *wandering off to look for a Dada filter now*...

ETA: Well though I can't pull off a cool set, there are other things that I can do, and think I can come up with something suitable. Off to play with lights now.

Message edited by author 2017-09-19 15:32:22.
09/19/2017 04:54:29 PM · #16
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by posthumous:

Surrealism is short for "super realism." It is characterized by attempts to mine the subconscious.

According to the Wikipedia article it's short for "supernaturalism", not "super realism" which I think is quite the opposite ...
Originally posted by Wikipedia:

The word 'surrealism' was coined in March 1917 by Guillaume Apollinaire three years before Surrealism emerged as an art movement in Paris.[5] He wrote in a letter to Paul Dermée: "All things considered, I think in fact it is better to adopt surrealism than supernaturalism, which I first used" [Tout bien examiné, je crois en effet qu'il vaut mieux adopter surréalisme que surnaturalisme que j'avais d'abord employé].


I am so totally confused about it all.

I've researched Dadaism... and I don't get it.

Georges' tiny scenes are all Dadaism?

But, Christophe's lake platform isn't?

Are we all in agreement about this?

Please explain.
09/19/2017 05:02:52 PM · #17
We all need to know that the only grade of "D' Lydia has ever gotten was in "Intro to Music" in college. (She was happy to get it, by the end.)

She dropped "Intro to Art".

There's no art-awareness in her.

She's a black and white kinda girl... Tell it to her straight... as if to a child... so she can understand.

09/19/2017 05:28:35 PM · #18
Originally posted by Lydia:

She dropped "Intro to Art".

There's no art-awareness in her.

That's it -- you've got it.
09/19/2017 06:03:14 PM · #19
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Lydia:

She dropped "Intro to Art".

There's no art-awareness in her.

That's it -- you've got it.


Alrighty then.

I've taken out my entry I put in yesterday and came up with something else today.

I'll probably take this one out tomorrow and put another one in... every day from now until rollover.

I think there's a good reason that Dadaism didn't last very long and turned into Surrealism.

*rolleyes*
09/19/2017 06:10:35 PM · #20
Just take a picture you wouldn't ordinarily expect to find on your (or a museum's) wall.

It can't be that hard -- the scores indicate I do that once or twice a week ... ;-)
09/19/2017 06:12:24 PM · #21
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Just take a picture you wouldn't ordinarily expect to find on your (or a museum's) wall.

It can't be that hard -- the scores indicate I do that once or twice a week ... ;-)


Ha! Ok.

I'm in and I'm not looking at Dadaism again. Ever.

09/19/2017 06:19:18 PM · #22
Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Just take a picture you wouldn't ordinarily expect to find on your (or a museum's) wall.

It can't be that hard -- the scores indicate I do that once or twice a week ... ;-)


Ha! Ok.

I'm in and I'm not looking at Dadaism again. Ever.

Yeah, let's hear you say that after you grab a ribbon ... sandbagging isn't just for hurricane defense you know ... :-)
09/19/2017 06:26:09 PM · #23
Is it that hard to change it to Extended?
If it gets changed then people have a choice.
09/19/2017 06:43:00 PM · #24
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Just take a picture you wouldn't ordinarily expect to find on your (or a museum's) wall.

It can't be that hard -- the scores indicate I do that once or twice a week ... ;-)


Ha! Ok.

I'm in and I'm not looking at Dadaism again. Ever.

Yeah, let's hear you say that after you grab a ribbon ... sandbagging isn't just for hurricane defense you know ... :-)


Ha!

I. Am. Not. Sandbagging.

I actually took some stuff... and shot it. Edited it... ten minutes. Done.

I have to enter... it's not in me to not enter... so... here we are. Ha!

09/19/2017 06:59:01 PM · #25
Originally posted by nygold:

Is it that hard to change it to Extended?

Yes, we never change it once the challenge is posted.
Originally posted by Lydia:

I have to enter... it's not in me to not enter... so... here we are. Ha!

Exactly -- my entry was in yesterday. :-)
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