"Live Music" how out of the box would you tolerate

08/11/2005 11:21:28 AM · #3

If the shot obviously looks setup or not live, I simply won't vote it as high. to me, the challenge of having a challenge is to meet it! Let the flaming commence...

08/11/2005 11:25:58 AM · #4

When I read the challenge description I assumed it meant "music being performed live" as in: "you must have an actual musician (or more than one) in your shot." I am getting a sense that for some people at least, "live music" means music done to an audience, as in a "gig". Canm someone enlighten me on this? I'm of course deaf, so I don't frequent the music scene...

Is an image of a musician performing on-topic, even if it's not a performance-in-front-of-an-audience?

R.

08/11/2005 11:31:41 AM · #5

Originally posted by bear_music:

When I read the challenge description I assumed it meant "music being performed live" as in: "you must have an actual musician (or more than one) in your shot."

As opposed to a dead one?

Otherwise this would just be a 'music' or 'musicians' challenge.

08/11/2005 11:33:19 AM · #6

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Originally posted by bear_music:
When I read the challenge description I assumed it meant "music being performed live" as in: "you must have an actual musician (or more than one) in your shot."

As opposed to a dead one?

Otherwise this would just be a 'music' or 'musicians' challenge.

Well, no, as in shots that interpret "music" without showing musicians, is what I meant. Like still lives of instruments and sheet music, which would fit a generic "music" challenge...

R.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

08/11/2005 11:33:32 AM · #7

You're there with your camera - so there must be an audience. ;^)

...if someone is playing an instrument then they are creating "Live Music". What's the opposite? Music that has been recorded?

I think entries with evidence of a performer (stage, microphone, etc...) are probably going to do better, but I'd wager a street musician on a sidewalk somewhere will be a ribbon winner.

Originally posted by bear_music:

Is an image of a musician performing on-topic, even if it's not a performance-in-front-of-an-audience?

R.

Message edited by author 2005-08-11 11:34:21.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/11/2005 11:34:55 AM · #8

Originally posted by bear_music:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Originally posted by bear_music:
When I read the challenge description I assumed it meant "music being performed live" as in: "you must have an actual musician (or more than one) in your shot."

As opposed to a dead one?

Otherwise this would just be a 'music' or 'musicians' challenge.

Well, no, as in shots that interpret "music" without showing musicians, is what I meant. Like still lives of instruments and sheet music, which would fit a generic "music" challenge...

R.

Oh, I see what you mean! My apologies.

ShutterPug

Canon EOS-6D

08/11/2005 11:35:23 AM · #9

Originally posted by bear_music:

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around does it still make noise? YES - it most certainly does, just no one around to listen. I would think as long as the musician is playing it qualifies.

Robt. - if this is too personal just ignore - but have wondered if you have always been deaf, or if you were born hearing? I think your perspective in this challenge will be very interesting. I have deaf friends - some born deaf, some who lost hearing at a young age. Their perception of music is vibrations. Will be really cool if you could capture that in your image.

- Linda

08/11/2005 11:38:21 AM · #10

The term 'live music' has a whole load of connotations and implications to me personally. I think the challenge of a live music challenge is to capture the atmosphere of a real live musician playing to an audience. Off the top of my head, I can't think of many other ways of interpreting this challenge that are as challenging!
Being the only audience member just is not as much of a challenge. Having control over the lighting is not as much of a challenge.
People are always free to enter what they want, but I'll certainly be rewarding people that met the spirit of the challenge in my eyes.

08/11/2005 11:39:25 AM · #11

Originally posted by ShutterPug:

I've been deaf since I was 2 yrs old or so, since 1949. Capturing a sense of music-as-vibration is just begging for horrible scores LOL. "OOF, Soft, blurred, DNMTC, etc etc..." For what it's worth, I think of my landscapes, the best of them, as musical scores, but I s'pose that's just an affectation so pay it no heed.

R.

08/11/2005 11:42:14 AM · #12

Live music is any music that is not recorded.

edit: unless it's turntables... or a performance piece that has an element of recording and live performers.

Message edited by author 2005-08-11 11:42:57.

Olympus 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6 Zuiko Digital ED

08/11/2005 11:44:00 AM · #13

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

Well, that's my problem... how MANY people are going to see the "spirit of the challenge" as "musicians performing to an audience" as opposed to "musicians making music"? For example, would you mark an image down if it was a shot of a recording session, with the glass and the boom mikes and maybe the mixer-guy hovering int he foreground? Isn't this kind of a limited view of the challenge? Is it REALLY implied in the challenge title/description or are you in a minority here?

I mean, you're welcome to your interpretation, but since I don't know the language in this field I need to figure this out... So who's with you on this one?

R.

bcoble

Olympus E-300 EVOLT

08/11/2005 11:44:22 AM · #14

Live Music? Does not say it needs to be people. How about birds singing, dogs howling, ect.

08/11/2005 11:45:08 AM · #15

Originally posted by bcoble:

Live Music? Does not say it needs to be people. How about birds singing, dogs howling, ect.

Hah! There ya go! LOL

R.

08/11/2005 11:46:43 AM · #16

Originally posted by bcoble:

Live Music? Does not say it needs to be people. How about birds singing, dogs howling, ect.

If a dog howling is music to you... it isn't to me, and I would vote accordingly.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

08/11/2005 11:48:48 AM · #17

Wallace Stevens:

Music is feeling, then, not sound;
and thus it is that what I feel
here in this room, desiring you,
is music; it is like the sound
awakened in the elders by Susannah...

Just to throw a monkey wrench in the works LOL.

R.

notonline

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

08/11/2005 11:51:58 AM · #18

Originally posted by bcoble:

Live Music? Does not say it needs to be people. How about birds singing, dogs howling, ect.

birds I'd accept but cats and dogs I will not. I'd even acept a kid playing on a toy drum and I'm not fond of kids.

theSaj

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

08/11/2005 11:53:33 AM · #19

IMHO...

"A performance before one or more members of an audience...."

ie: Band at a concert, guitarist on a streetcorner with a hat for tips, a DJ, even karoake (why you'd torture yourself for such a photo I do not know) is still a live performance. And if you, the photographer are there, then an audience exists.

mpemberton

08/11/2005 11:56:17 AM · #20

(*v=)

Live music, to me, is music that is played live and can be seen as such in a photo. Thus, people singing, playing instruments.

Sorry to: birds, dogs, cats and newts.

Olympus 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6 Zuiko Digital ED

08/11/2005 11:58:37 AM · #21

I will tell you that birdsong has been imitated in music for centuries, and there are even pieces that use recordings of birds.

ergo

08/11/2005 12:02:30 PM · #22

Originally posted by bear_music:

Rodgers and Hamerstein:

The hills are aLIVE with the sound of MUSIC
With songs they have sung for a thousand years
The hills fill my heart with the sound of music
My heart wants to sing every song it hears

My heart wants to beat like the wings of the birds
that rise from the lake to the trees
My heart wants to sigh like a chime that flies
from a church on a breeze
To laugh like a brook when it trips and falls over
stones on its way
To sing through the night like a lark who is learning to pray

I go to the hills when my heart is lonely
I know I will hear what I've heard before
My heart will be blessed with the sound of music
And I'll sing once more

Message edited by author 2005-08-11 12:02:53.

bcoble

Olympus E-300 EVOLT

08/11/2005 12:06:09 PM · #23

Originally posted by kyebosh:

Originally posted by bcoble:
Live Music? Does not say it needs to be people. How about birds singing, dogs howling, ect.

If a dog howling is music to you... it isn't to me, and I would vote accordingly.

To the dog its music. Heck 1/2 the noise I hear on the radio is not music. How would you know what it sounds like anyway. Does the challenge say people music?????