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 10/18/2006 12:03:07 AM · #1
Post your outtakes from the Ducky challenge here.
 10/18/2006 12:10:06 AM · #2
I ran out of time while entering this challenge and was not able to finish post-processing. Thankfully, I had posted an "in-process" entry.

Here is another version with about 5 more minutes of processing.


New


Original

(I noticed quite a variance in appearance between my two monitors with the original. I further processed the image would love to know if 5 minutes was the difference between where I placed and being in that upp er crop?)

I will say I am somewhat bummed. I was at a 5.74 this morning and then dropped quite a bit. I was really wanting to place in the top 25% and missed it by just 2%. Kind of bummed as I put a LOT of work into this shot. And I thought it was pretty good. Definitely in the top 1/4 of what I saw. *shrug* So what went wrong?

I did not receive one negative comment on the photo. So if I could get some feedback as to why it missed the mark? Especially those who gave me 1's and 2's.

Really guys ????

Message edited by author 2006-10-18 00:16:09.
 10/18/2006 12:31:05 AM · #3

Outtake

Took it while I was taking my original.. Liked it but I knew it wasn't challenging enough..


Entry
 10/18/2006 12:34:32 AM · #4
Much prefer the outtake. Would have scored it 1-2 pts higher.

:)

Message edited by author 2006-10-18 00:34:48.
 10/18/2006 12:40:35 AM · #5
Originally posted by theSaj:
Much prefer the outtake. Would have scored it 1-2 pts higher.

:)


This is the point where I beat myself into a bloody pulp.. ^_^
I never make good choices.. ever..
 10/18/2006 12:42:54 AM · #6
Originally posted by theSaj:
Much prefer the outtake. Would have scored it 1-2 pts higher.

:)


I didn't vote but I agree
 10/18/2006 12:44:31 AM · #7
Don't worry, you're not alone.

It is helpful to bounce them off friends, family, and even a few close DPCers.

I just think your outtake is cute. Though your entry is technically a better capture I think if you could have gotten the outtake to a point with a bit more clarity it could have done really well.

And if it's any consolation, my Lighting entry just started at 3.0 (but it has moved to 4.2)
 10/18/2006 12:53:04 AM · #8
Yes, Urfa, the outtake might have been in the top 10 or 20...
 10/18/2006 12:53:58 AM · #9
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Yes, Urfa, the outtake might have been in the top 10 or 20...

I wasn't going to tell her that...
 10/18/2006 02:31:03 AM · #10
Originally posted by theSaj:

I did not receive one negative comment on the photo. So if I could get some feedback as to why it missed the mark? Especially those who gave me 1's and 2's.

Really guys ????


Can't help you. I gave it a 9. I thought it was the best ducky photo in the challenge. Some people will vote a 1 on anything *shrug*
 10/18/2006 03:22:02 AM · #11

Outtake


Entry

Just couldn't decide if to enter woody or ducky
 10/18/2006 07:49:34 AM · #12
Original

Redo due to comments on it being to dark! Damn laptop.

Outtakes:
10/18/2006 08:32:45 AM · #13
I would have given this 2 or 3 points more...
 10/18/2006 08:35:46 AM · #14
I didn't enter but I set Ducky up on a table filled with peanuts and waited for the blue jays to come around. Wasn't happy with the light (jay is too dark).

10/18/2006 08:35:46 AM · #15
Originally posted by eyewave:
I would have given this 2 or 3 points more...


Thanks, it was a tough decision for me and apparently I chose wrong. But that's how we learn here.
 10/18/2006 10:17:06 AM · #16
Originally posted by kawesttex:

Outtakes:


I think the following outtake is my favorite. The re-do helps a lot. Yes, us laptop people have that brightness/darkness issue a lot.

I have my Dell external monitor which I use for judging an image's brightness and feel.
 10/18/2006 10:17:50 AM · #17
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
I didn't enter but I set Ducky up on a table filled with peanuts and waited for the blue jays to come around. Wasn't happy with the light (jay is too dark).


A little processing, dodge & burn, and this might have been a ribbon contender. IMHO
 10/18/2006 10:28:08 AM · #18
Originally posted by theSaj:
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
I didn't enter but I set Ducky up on a table filled with peanuts and waited for the blue jays to come around. Wasn't happy with the light (jay is too dark).


A little processing, dodge & burn, and this might have been a ribbon contender. IMHO


Thanks. I don't really know how to dodge and burn, I use PSP and I don't think it's as easy in PSP as it is in Photoshop.
 10/18/2006 11:57:52 AM · #19


I just spent about 5 minutes and I am far from the best editor.

I brightened with curves, dodge/burned a bit (look in help, PSP should have the tools), usm sharpening.

This would have had a real good shot for a ribbon. Especially with that peanut standing on end. I think that's my favorite twist to it.

Message edited by author 2006-10-18 11:58:52.
 10/18/2006 01:00:24 PM · #20
Originally posted by theSaj:


I just spent about 5 minutes and I am far from the best editor.

I brightened with curves, dodge/burned a bit (look in help, PSP should have the tools), usm sharpening.

This would have had a real good shot for a ribbon. Especially with that peanut standing on end. I think that's my favorite twist to it.


Wow, thanks! I gotta practice more I see.
 10/18/2006 02:06:33 PM · #21


So any one able to give me some good constructive feedback? Was it cause it was too dark?

I received one comment that it was somewhat confusing. Had I had a ducky with a sword and the victim ducky facing the other way that it might haven been better. And that there might have been some confusion with regards to the small dinghy in the background.

I do admit, I would have liked the plank to show up a bit more clearly. Alas, that is all I had and I only had a few hours to take the shot. And the setup was very timely.

So my one constructive comment essentially boiled down to my setup not being elaborate enough to convey the message. Considering, this was one of the more elaborate set-up I find that a bit difficult to swallow. I mean, there has to be some use of imagination at some point.

Some of the clarity issues I can sort of see, such as people being confused by the ships in the background.

- Saj

PS - here is an outtake of the setup. I was really amazed how 3-dimensional the ship looks because it is simply a flat photo cut-out I printed off of my computer.



Message edited by author 2006-10-18 14:13:52.
 10/18/2006 02:43:08 PM · #22
Originally posted by "glad2badad":
1) The image seems flat or compressed. Were you positioned some distance away and used the longer end of your 200? Maybe it's lighting giving it that look. The area directly behind the 3 ducks up top. Looks like they are plastered against the wall.


Must be the lighting as you can see in the setup shot there was some distance. I was a few feet away using my Tamron 28-75mm @30mm. I really thought I had captured a good 3D feel. I mean the canons almost look like they're sticking out and it's nothing but a flat print-out. Hmm.

2) Your horizon is tilted! Well, actually I think it was the angle in which you were positioned, but for some viewer/voters it could come across as not level especially with quick viewing. The line of fire and waves is where I find it evident.

It was a mix of my angle (which was necessary for capturing the background painting, which was too big to position perfectly) and the actually flame and water print outs. Especially the flame, which was at at a slight angle due to the desk. I did try to compensate, and given more time probably could have succeeded a bit more.

3) The "plank" looks like a large block of wood because of the way it lines up with the ship on your background. The duck on the plank appears to be going onto the ship instead of heading away and into the water (where the cool looking devil duck awaits!). [/quote]

Well, in lots of walk-the-plank scenes they make the user walk backwards. Yes, usually at sword point. But I couldn't quite find a small enough sword in my collection. But I felt the cannon pointed at the ducky helped insinuate. I thought the ducky looked better facing the pirate duckies. So far, that has been commented on in both my two constructive comments. So I guess I made a mistake in that regards. The plank was a little thick for my liking but we were unable to find an old wood ruler.

Thanks for the feedback.

Message edited by author 2006-10-18 14:56:55.
 10/19/2006 12:34:43 PM · #23
I'd like to clear up any concerns (in reference to) my entry "Duck Soup" I hope this is (as I had hoped my photo would be) taken in the good humored way it is/was intended!

First, I'd like to thank everyone for all the comments! Most were good humored & constructive. I was a bit surpised that a number of voters were quite disturbed by this photo and that there may be some question as to whether or not I actually tortured these rubber ducky's.
Please rest assured that these ducky's are fine! No harm (or fowl) came to any of the rubber ducky's that participated in the making of this photo. There was no screaming, bleeding or pleading, no smell from burning rubber; I did not boil them to death & they did not melt. They are not disfigured and have not been traumatized for life by this experience.

But don't take my word for it - Take a peak at the Ducky's "After Challenge Party" Photos! I hope this is helpful for those who showed concern.

[url]//www.dpchallenge.com/portfolio.php?USER_ID=52854&collection_id=18460[/url]

10/19/2006 08:53:47 PM · #24
I had what I thought was a creative idea, then chickened out and went with something bland and the 4.7 score proves I should have gone with my gut. But, I would be interested in what others thought. The main concern with the submitted photo was that it was too dark, and I agree now. Here is is:


And here is what I should have submitted:



Comments?
 10/19/2006 10:15:46 PM · #25
Hi - I like your original entry. It's a good, soft focus shot with decent shadow and reflection. Both takes are a little on the dark side. Neither photo shows enough light to make it any more dramatic than what it is. On the other hand, they both have a peacefulness about them. I had some issues with my entry too - I decided it might be a good time to let go of the ducky's - a new challenge is at the train station up head!
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