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10/14/2009 02:29:03 PM · #1 |
Please note that the rules for the Triptych III challenge have changed slightly since this morning.
The challenge allows for entries sized at 720x720 (and 200kb). |
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10/14/2009 02:32:34 PM · #2 |
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10/14/2009 02:35:16 PM · #3 |
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10/14/2009 02:35:41 PM · #4 |
Bingo! The power of administrative inquiries :-)
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10/14/2009 02:35:57 PM · #5 |
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10/14/2009 02:51:05 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by langdon:
Please note that the rules for the Triptych III challenge have changed slightly since this morning.
The challenge allows for entries sized at 720x720 (and 200kb). |
Now, how about text for DPC Cinema??? :) |
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10/14/2009 02:55:34 PM · #7 |
Wrong thread. This question is better on the other one about the pool.
Message edited by author 2009-10-14 15:04:59. |
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10/14/2009 03:28:47 PM · #8 |
| Thank you thank you thank you L!! |
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10/14/2009 03:29:38 PM · #9 |
This is awesome news :D
Thanks for the size increase. |
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10/14/2009 03:36:17 PM · #10 |
| Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers, which triptych will generally use. And the style of the challenge seems better suited for advanced editing since you are telling a story...most people would probalby use 3 similar photos with slight modifications, which could be done with certain editing aspects. |
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10/14/2009 03:44:50 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by albc28:
Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers, which triptych will generally use. |
I sent an admin inquiry to Langdon quoting your question. Good point...
Originally posted by albc28:
And the style of the challenge seems better suited for advanced editing since you are telling a story...most people would probalby use 3 similar photos with slight modifications, which could be done with certain editing aspects. |
Not so sure about that part, plenty of leeway to work changes in basic editing as well... But anyway, the layers is an issue...
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10/14/2009 04:19:30 PM · #12 |
| Can someone suggest to put the little flag on the front page under the challenge to let users know its running under edited rule set ? |
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10/14/2009 04:21:27 PM · #13 |
| I think allowing layers/advanced editing would cause some problems. Why don't we just say "layers allowed only to frame multiple images"?? |
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10/14/2009 04:28:19 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by george917:
I think allowing layers/advanced editing would cause some problems. Why don't we just say "layers allowed only to frame multiple images"?? |
Good idea. |
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10/14/2009 04:46:06 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by pwarmuz:
Can someone suggest to put the little flag on the front page under the challenge to let users know its running under edited rule set ? |
Langdon is already "working on" this, but there's some (unknown to me) coding issue(s) -- should happen soon ... |
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10/14/2009 04:46:47 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by albc28:
Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers...... |
I believe the above is not correct, Basic edit does not forbid the use of layers at all, it only requires that they be applied uniformly to the entire picture (no masks) and only in normal blending mode. |
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10/14/2009 04:49:26 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by albc28:
Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers...... |
I believe the above is not correct, Basic edit does not forbid the use of layers at all, it only requires that they be applied uniformly to the entire picture (no masks) and only in normal blending mode. |
I don't know if anything has changed but before you could only have one pixel layer. Any other layers used had to be adjustment layers set on normal blending mode.
Message edited by author 2009-10-14 16:49:49.
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10/14/2009 04:49:32 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by albc28:
Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers...... |
I believe the above is not correct, Basic edit does not forbid the use of layers at all, it only requires that they be applied uniformly to the entire picture (no masks) and only in normal blending mode. |
Basic rules normally prohibit layers containing pixels (like the additional images), allowing only Adjustment Layers. People here are asking that the rules be modified to allow the additional images be allowed on layers rather than just pasted into a blank area of the background. |
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10/14/2009 05:03:24 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by albc28:
Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers...... |
I believe the above is not correct, Basic edit does not forbid the use of layers at all, it only requires that they be applied uniformly to the entire picture (no masks) and only in normal blending mode. |
Basic rules normally prohibit layers containing pixels (like the additional images), allowing only Adjustment Layers. People here are asking that the rules be modified to allow the additional images be allowed on layers rather than just pasted into a blank area of the background. |
Even if you DO paste them on a "blank area of the background", whenever you paste in photoshop it creates a new layer. There isn't any WAY to create a triptych from 3 separate images in photoshop without, at some point, having 3 separate image layers. Granted, you can paste then flatten, but before you flatten you have an additional layer.
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10/14/2009 05:04:08 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by albc28:
Is there a way to have Triptych changed to Advanced editing? Basic editing does not allow for the use of layers...... |
I believe the above is not correct, Basic edit does not forbid the use of layers at all, it only requires that they be applied uniformly to the entire picture (no masks) and only in normal blending mode. |
Basic rules normally prohibit layers containing pixels (like the additional images), allowing only Adjustment Layers. People here are asking that the rules be modified to allow the additional images be allowed on layers rather than just pasted into a blank area of the background. |
Nothing would prevent the 3 pictures being processed separately following basic edit rules and then being pasted in place. Within each picture, however, why would it be ilegal to duplicate the background to non-destructively apply a legal filter (such as USM for example)to the copy and then flatten if you are happy with the results of simply erase it otherwise. That would be a pixel layer and, if it is applied uniformly, why would it be illegal?
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10/14/2009 06:48:53 PM · #21 |
| OK, so I'm not alone in trying to figure out how to do this without layers. LOL! At least I found the thread. Hopefully there's an answer soon. |
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10/14/2009 07:08:17 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Nothing would prevent the 3 pictures being processed separately following basic edit rules and then being pasted in place. Within each picture, however, why would it be ilegal to duplicate the background to non-destructively apply a legal filter (such as USM for example)to the copy and then flatten if you are happy with the results of simply erase it otherwise. That would be a pixel layer and, if it is applied uniformly, why would it be illegal? |
That's one of the great conundrums of DPC-Basic....
There's a consensus that if you dupe the BG layer and then do your work on it, that's legal. No harm, no foul...
However, in the case of triptychs, before you can even GET to that point you need 2 more layers as you paste in the new images, and.... Technically, that's not legal.... so there really isn't any way to do a legal triptych under basic editing rules...
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10/14/2009 07:10:35 PM · #23 |
| I don't really think it's that important if you use layers to put them side by side (or one above the other?), as long as you don't edit the images themselves illegally. Last time I submitted an image for SC verification, I was told to just provide an original and the entry, because what you do to it is more important than how you do it... so I don't think it matters if you use layers or if you paste things together in MS Paint, so long as you're not using layers to do any illegal editing on the images themselves. |
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10/14/2009 07:16:08 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by george917:
I don't really think it's that important if you use layers to put them side by side (or one above the other?), as long as you don't edit the images themselves illegally. Last time I submitted an image for SC verification, I was told to just provide an original and the entry, because what you do to it is more important than how you do it... so I don't think it matters if you use layers or if you paste things together in MS Paint, so long as you're not using layers to do any illegal editing on the images themselves. |
Practically, this is probably true, but the rules SAY you can't use any layers that contain pixels, so it's a bit murky...
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10/14/2009 07:22:21 PM · #25 |
| I think if you paste into a blank area and then immediately flatten you will be in compliance with the "spirit" of the rules. As noted, there is no way to add an image in Photoshop without creating a new pixel-containing layer. |
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