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11/24/2009 08:00:40 AM · #1 |
Later this week we will be updating the private messaging system so that private messages (PMs) aren't so reliant on email for transmission. What this means is that you will be able to retrieve PMs sent to you right here on the site itself. You will still have the option to receive PMs by email as well, and what's even better now is that you will be able to reply directly to a PM from your email client if you so desire.
So what does this mean as far as your privacy is concerned? At the moment, and well into the foreseeable future, neither the Site Council nor any Administrator will have access to read your private messages. Should concerns arise over content (e.g.- proper conduct, trolling, spamming, etc), those will be handled on a case by case basis -- we will likely ask that you submit a screen shot if you are reporting such behavior. Should spammers frequently target the PM system down the road, we will offer a "Report As Spam" link and take appropriate action to avoid further spam. Additionally, messages will remain on the system until all recipients (including the original sender) have deleted the message from their inboxes/sentboxes.
Feel free to ask any questions. |
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11/24/2009 08:02:54 AM · #2 |
Awesome. I love the idea Thanks L
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11/24/2009 08:03:14 AM · #3 |
| Nice work. Thank you for all your efforts. |
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11/24/2009 08:06:40 AM · #4 |
Sounds great.
Regarding privacy; if the PMs are stored on the DPC servers then the Administrator will have access to them, won't they? (Unless you're using some sort of encryption) |
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11/24/2009 08:08:43 AM · #5 |
| This is something that has always sorta irked me since most other sites had these features, and the resolution here is welcomed. This will streamline things quite a bit and is a great improvement. Merry Christmas from DPC admin, indeed. |
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11/24/2009 08:09:10 AM · #6 |
| This is great news Langdon - thanks! |
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11/24/2009 08:13:40 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by JH:
Regarding privacy; if the PMs are stored on the DPC servers then the Administrator will have access to them, won't they? (Unless you're using some sort of encryption) |
If I were to log into the production database (doesn't happen often) and run manual queries, then yes, I would be able to read them. I was really trying to convey the fact that we didn't build in anything (any tools or pages) that will allow us to monitor or read your private messages. I mentioned this, because in the past when folks requested a feature like this, there were some people that were against it because they thought it would be less private, which is certainly not the case.
Message edited by author 2009-11-24 08:14:15. |
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11/24/2009 08:43:38 AM · #8 |
I found the system just fine, no spam from bots or anything. Now you're saying that possibility can arise and all we're going to have to protect ourselves from this nuisance is a Report Spam button.
I guess I don't see the overall advantage to this compared to the system we have now. I'm a photographer, not a web-master so please excuse my ignorance.
So, why is this great news then? Please explain. :) |
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11/24/2009 08:55:53 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Now you're saying that possibility can arise and all we're going to have to protect ourselves from this nuisance is a Report Spam button. |
That's not what he said. The potential for spam and other abuse is no greater with online PMs than it was with regular email. It's just that Langdon will now have the ability to do something about it should the need arise. |
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11/24/2009 08:59:42 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Jac:
Now you're saying that possibility can arise and all we're going to have to protect ourselves from this nuisance is a Report Spam button. |
That's not what he said. The potential for spam and other abuse is no greater with online PMs than it was with regular email. It's just that Langdon will now have the ability to do something about it should the need arise. |
Didn't know some received spam through PMs. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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11/24/2009 09:05:04 AM · #11 |
I think this will be a great facility - it'll make things considerably more streamlined. I'm loving all the developments on the site at the moment.
Many thanks
Paul |
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11/24/2009 09:32:10 AM · #12 |
 Langdon is our hero!!
Thanks for all of the great upgrades of late. This will be very nice to have.
(Now go read my email, lol!) |
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11/24/2009 12:17:33 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by langdon:
At the moment, and well into the foreseeable future, neither the Site Council nor any Administrator will have access to read your private messages. |
Has this always been the case? I know for a fact that during an incident last year, the contents of a PM I sent to a user was known by whichever SC was dealing with me (names weren't offered). The PM wasn't the subject of a complaint (as far as I know), and I was the one who brought it up to the SC, who seemed to know what was inside.
Message edited by author 2009-11-24 12:19:16. |
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11/24/2009 12:32:15 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by langdon:
neither the Site Council nor any Administrator will have access to read your private messages. |
Has this always been the case? |
Yes. |
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11/24/2009 12:40:08 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Now you're saying that possibility can arise and all we're going to have Originally posted by scalvert:
to protect ourselves from this nuisance is a Report Spam button. |
That's not what he said. The potential for spam and other abuse is no greater with online PMs than it was with regular email. It's just that Langdon will now have the ability to do something about it should the need arise. |
Originally posted by Jac:
Didn't know some received spam through PMs. Thanks for clearing that up. |
I was approached through PM by one of the Spammers wanting to be my friend......and of course, to spend money for a service he was offering doing editing.
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11/24/2009 12:41:38 PM · #16 |
The common sense rule applies just like regular email...
"If you don't want the world to see what you wrote in an email to someone, do not send it."
This would be the same for any "private" messaging system (instant messaging, vBulletin PMs, DPC PMs, Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, SMS/cell phone text messaging, etc.)
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11/24/2009 12:44:22 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Photologist:
The common sense rule applies just like regular email...
"If you don't want the world to see what you wrote in an email to someone, do not send it."
This would be the same for any "private" messaging system (instant messaging, vBulletin PMs, DPC PMs, Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, SMS/cell phone text messaging, etc.) |
WHAT!!!!! Aghhhh shit!
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11/24/2009 12:46:01 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by langdon:
At the moment, and well into the foreseeable future, neither the Site Council nor any Administrator will have access to read your private messages. |
Has this always been the case? I know for a fact that during an incident last year, the contents of a PM I sent to a user was known by whichever SC was dealing with me (names weren't offered). The PM wasn't the subject of a complaint (as far as I know), and I was the one who brought it up to the SC, who seemed to know what was inside. |
As a SC member since mid-2002, I can assure you that we have never had access to other users' PM's. If we had the contents of PM, it would be because either the sender or the recipient provided it to us. Although the PM may not have been the subject of a complaint, we may have become aware of its existence while researching another matter, and requested (or been provided) a copy from either party. Earlier PMs sometimes do come up as we research the chain of events leading up to an eventual later issue. When that happens, we do sometimes ask for a copy of the PM (if the sender or recipient still has it) to confirm that events have been described to us accurately.
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11/24/2009 12:47:00 PM · #19 |
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11/24/2009 12:53:36 PM · #20 |
Great idea!
But will we have an archive for PM's here too? I usually don't delete them from my email.
Message edited by author 2009-11-24 12:53:55. |
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11/24/2009 12:55:29 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by pedrobop:
Great idea!
But will we have an archive for PM's here too? I usually don't delete them from my email. |
I would think so. If they're stored as L. suggested above, I don't see any reason why we couldn't have a permanent archive. Sort of a like a mail client, where we can have control over each message, delete them if we want, etc. |
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11/24/2009 01:02:41 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by pedrobop:
Great idea!
But will we have an archive for PM's here too? I usually don't delete them from my email. |
I would think so. If they're stored as L. suggested above, I don't see any reason why we couldn't have a permanent archive. Sort of a like a mail client, where we can have control over each message, delete them if we want, etc. |
That's pretty much what it will be. You will also have the ability to send PMs to multiple recipients, and view replies (whether sent via email or on the site) on the site in a threaded format. You will have the ability to reply to all participants, or reply privately to the author of any PM in the thread, though it will not be possible to directly forward a PM, or to add/remove recipients on the fly. A reply via email to a PM will go to all recipients (essentially a reply to all), a reply privately to the author can be done on the site.
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11/24/2009 01:08:14 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by pedrobop:
Great idea!
But will we have an archive for PM's here too? I usually don't delete them from my email. |
I would think so. If they're stored as L. suggested above, I don't see any reason why we couldn't have a permanent archive. Sort of a like a mail client, where we can have control over each message, delete them if we want, etc. |
That's pretty much what it will be. You will also have the ability to send PMs to multiple recipients, and view replies (whether sent via email or on the site) on the site in a threaded format. You will have the ability to reply to all participants, or reply privately to the author of any PM in the thread, though it will not be possible to directly forward a PM, or to add/remove recipients on the fly. A reply via email to a PM will go to all recipients (essentially a reply to all), a reply privately to the author can be done on the site. |
Nice changes! And that may prevent from spam messages too. Since the guy who send this kind of message will probabbly send to a lot of people, and a lot of people will mark his message as a spam.
Thanks for this information! |
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11/24/2009 01:18:51 PM · #24 |
| Sounds cool and useful, kinda ineffecient to have to go to my email to check for PMs. So when does this go into effect? |
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11/24/2009 01:20:03 PM · #25 |
sounds great,
a step forward (imo)! |
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