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04/11/2015 09:32:32 AM |
It's all about taste I guess , I really like this Giles , it's a real image of a real person or it is in my mind.
I like the black rubbish and the "bad" crop ,that all makes for realism in my tiny mind.
You also have class in your model choice, but that again is a matter of taste which you and I both share .
Message edited by author 2015-04-11 09:34:26. |
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04/11/2015 07:24:13 AM |
I didn't think it was so bad those eye's are just outstanding and really carry this image but thats as far as it goes.
There is no trip around the face. What bothered me was the lack of focus on the face. It looks like to thin strips of focus down each side of her face. After the eyes I have nowhere to go. I gave you a 6. The eyes talked me in to it.
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04/11/2015 04:06:07 AM |
Thanks Paul and johana I didn't have high hopes for it but when I look at some of the images above it, ones that aren't even portraits I wondered. I count 4 or more that aren't portraits that are full body shots etc and johana's doesn't even have a face let alone eyes but I liked it.
This wasn't actually posed etc this was in my kitchen before we went on a walk.
And I didn't set up the camera really I forgot it was minimal so I bet picture style was on faithful I do have it on smallest JPEG but always use the raws I should have setup a custom picture style.
You're right about the 6mm focus plane it requires careful setup and angling of the face and yep ppl shooting f5.6 kits lens don't understand or seem to like the shallow dof which I love
I read your lens comparison article btw was really interesting .
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04/11/2015 02:32:07 AM |
It's a brave man who doesn't utilise eye contact in a portrait challenge. Also the 6mm DOF of this lens at minimum focus distance when wide open requires careful and controlled modelling. I used to spend ages getting models to bring as much of their face into the plane of focus as was possible - a bit chin down and eyes up. Manually focussing is better too - trying to have the eyes at the back of the the depth of focus rather than in the middle of it.
I also think the 5DIII is sub-optimal in Minimal challenges in monochrome jpeg, the tones are too flat. Other cameras have some much more interesting presets in relation to contrast profiles.
Composition-wise, the black lump top left isn't helping you - it makes the composition look arbitrary, like you've just stopped someone in the street. I think the viewer expectations of the challenge were for something more controlled and set up - I think the implicit challenge was about lighting and composition and even posing, all the stuff that's not about the camera. From reading your forum post I think you thought that the lens' 'special effect' look would give you some value, in fact many DPC viewers seem to consider it a flaw ("I wish you'd have got both eyes in focus", "A narrower aperture would get more of the face in focus").
I think success in using this lens (from a DPC perspective) is to use it to isolate subjects from the background and not from their own face, you thus need to have an interesting background (or at least a background context) to isolate from. No one will understand your background here. Compare it to my 3rd place entry where, at a comparable DOF I used the model's arms and hands to provide a background context to isolate from - her hands are nicely blurred which demonstrates the lovely fall off of focus but the environmental context is presereved. Look at Paul's Blue Ribbon, great isolation, narrow DOF but the background context remains.
I gave you a 6 btw, so I liked it enough. I hope this helps.
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04/11/2015 12:53:55 AM |
| I agree with Mark on the eyes. I don't feel the intensity I want to feel from her because she's not looking at me. Also, I'd like to see more contrast. |
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04/10/2015 11:00:37 PM |
I agree with Johanna on the lighting.
The main thing I didn't care for is the "gazing off into the distance" pose with this shot. I would have much rather have had her eyes engaging the camera. |
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04/10/2015 06:01:13 PM |
While the dof technique is interesting, I find the image lacking in several areas:
lighting - the brightest area is her forehead, arguably the least interesting part of the face.
crop - waaaay too much air above her head. Nothing interesting happening there.
tones - rather dull, and shallow tonal range.
But most importantly for ME, is her expression. There is something a bit bug-eyed about her. And the pp'g strengthens that perception. There is a lack of emotion or connection here that leaves me a bit cold. |
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04/09/2015 09:06:23 AM |
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04/06/2015 09:47:13 AM |
| This looks like an image from the North of England. I like it for its simpleness but attentive qualities. |
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