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04/27/2005 02:16:57 PM · #1 |
I'm so sick and tired of people not paying attention to the picture enough before making a decision.
They say horizon tilted; but with mountainous/lake shots, often the coast is varied throughout the frame giving the illusion that the horizon is tilted. But one only has to pay attention to the trees in the picture to realize the frame is perfectly aligned.
So in conclusion, voters, please pay more attention, before making a decision.
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04/27/2005 02:24:12 PM · #2 |
Sometimes it looks like a photo is tilted because of the way lines work throughout the image. This is a characteristic of the photograph and whether the horizon is tilted or not, if it appears to be it may mean that there is room for improvement in the composition of the photograph.
That being said, some voters are on crack.
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04/27/2005 02:25:03 PM · #3 |
While I'll agree that with mountainous or hilly shots it is hard to tell the difference sometimes, I'll have to disagree with you about lake shots. When you can see the surface of the water and you can see that it is tilted, that horizon is off about 99% of the time. I'm not talking about shorelines & the attendant optical illusions that *occasionally* occur, but about the shots where the horizon is the water.
Also - trees don't always grow perfectly perpendicular to the horizon. In fact, around here it's rare to find a tree that is perfectly perpednidcular to the surrounding ground.
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04/27/2005 02:28:44 PM · #4 |
I have to admit that I saw one in the current challenge (won't say which one) that I thought was off, but I looked at some of the verticals and saw that it's actually level, but the "horizon line" is actually some sort of forced perspective.
That being said, even if it's correct it might "feel" off as other posters have noted. The framing should be re-addressed for the composition to take that into account.
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04/27/2005 02:34:14 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
That being said, some voters are on crack. |
That just tickled my funny bone in a big way - I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee at the time!! |
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04/27/2005 02:38:40 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Sometimes it looks like a photo is tilted because of the way lines work throughout the image. This is a characteristic of the photograph and whether the horizon is tilted or not, if it appears to be it may mean that there is room for improvement in the composition of the photograph.
That being said, some voters are on crack. |
And sometimes it means that a photographer (no one specific) did not use (or did not know to use, or know how to use) a tripod with a level. Sometimes compositional compensation is not enough to ovecome errors in setup technique. |
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04/27/2005 02:39:02 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Salar:
I'm so sick and tired of people not paying attention to the picture enough before making a decision.
They say horizon tilted; but with mountainous/lake shots, often the coast is varied throughout the frame giving the illusion that the horizon is tilted. But one only has to pay attention to the trees in the picture to realize the frame is perfectly aligned.
So in conclusion, voters, please pay more attention, before making a decision.
~S |
As an experienced photographer of land and waterscapes, I'd comment that many times a horizon at right angles to the image frame will appear to be "not level", and I've learned to go with my eye so the image feels right. That may be the case here.
Robt.
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04/27/2005 02:57:58 PM · #8 |
I think other components in the image may create the illusion about horizon being tilted. My free study submission has the illusion apparently because of the waves bein very irregular...
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04/27/2005 03:11:25 PM · #9 |
gaurawa,
I don't see any sort of tilt in the horizon of your pic.
Also, I have a fairly eay and reliable method to see if a horizon is tilted - I know it may not work 100% of the time, but it's quick and it gives me a back-up check to my eyeballing. I simply move the window containing the pic so that the horizon (or vertical line) I'm looking at is along the bottom or side of my monitor, which is straight sided. If the horizon or vertical line is 'off' I can see it better sonce I have a reference line which should be parallel to any horizon or true vertical. |
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04/27/2005 03:12:12 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by gaurawa:
I think other components in the image may create the illusion about horizon being tilted. My free study submission has the illusion apparently because of the waves bein very irregular...
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Your image has 3 diagonal elements pointing slightly "down" to the right, and one horizontal element that's visually much less pronounced. Thus, the "sense" that it's slightly tilted.
Robt.
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04/27/2005 03:31:06 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by saracat:
gaurawa,
I don't see any sort of tilt in the horizon of your pic. |
I had one comment about horizon tilted which made me think why ? |
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04/27/2005 03:48:31 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by saracat:
gaurawa,
I don't see any sort of tilt in the horizon of your pic.
Also, I have a fairly eay and reliable method to see if a horizon is tilted - I know it may not work 100% of the time, but it's quick and it gives me a back-up check to my eyeballing. I simply move the window containing the pic so that the horizon (or vertical line) I'm looking at is along the bottom or side of my monitor, which is straight sided. If the horizon or vertical line is 'off' I can see it better sonce I have a reference line which should be parallel to any horizon or true vertical. |
You can drag the window smaller, too, and use the edge of the window to gauge. That's straight for everyone...
Robt.
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04/27/2005 03:57:32 PM · #13 |
| It is all perception. I like the image and to me the horizon is of no consequence whatsoever even though it appears straight. What are we looking at? |
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04/27/2005 03:59:06 PM · #14 |
Just for the record, I like the image fine the way it is and don't perceive the horizon as being skewed. I just offered the visual explanation for why some might think it is.
R.
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04/27/2005 04:10:02 PM · #15 |
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04/27/2005 05:53:21 PM · #16 |
Thank you for all your thought-provoking ideas.
I agree with most of the ideas presented, but I personally feel that an image should portray reality. Although it may be easy to align the horizon in simpler shots, it would not make sense to align the horizon in others, given that you would be sacrificing one element in the picture for another (tilted mountain/trees, aligned horizon). I guess this is debatable, however.
Anyhow, happy shooting,
Regards,
~S |
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