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07/15/2005 02:26:23 PM · #26 |
I have been living in Korea for 4 years now and also have a few pictures of dogmeat... in freezers and headless, much like sheep in any butchery.
The practice of eating dog is not realy or only a korean thing, China Indonesia and even in Africa there are dog and cat eaters. Eating 'out of the box'meat is a common occurance.In France there are frog eaters, In America Rattle snake eaters, in South africa crocodile eaters etc etc. All over the world we eat hare/rabbits, also a dear friend of man and a not too stupid an animal. No excuse though.
What was said about the inhumane treatment of these animals, well, that is unfortunately true as, now I am talking about Korea, these animals are tortured before being killed as 'the meat is more tender and tastier' due to the adrenaline released during the torture process. As it is illigal to trade in dog meat, there are no regulations or laws governing it. Like so many other other outlawed-but-everyday-occuring- practices, it is easy to find 'boshingtang'(dog stew) restaurants. The meat they use are not from everyday house hold dogs but a specific breed bred for slaughter.
Culture is a strong element in any nation's exictance and changes to culture comes from within. Dog eating is disappearing and rapidly so. The new generation of Koreans are mostly frowning upon this practice and most of them have never and will never taste 'boshingtang'. Most Koreans are embarresed by this practice. Even the older generation are mostly against it. I have met very few who would advocate it.
Problem is the government's position is a difficult one: enforcing the fact that it is illigal will alienate many and drive the practice underground and thus making it worse, legalising it will give the green light to the practice, something they are hesitant to do and most people do not want.
My position is simple. I will not eat dog. I will not condone how these or any other living things are being killed by man for man. We are an inhumane bunch when it comes to money and food, clubbing baby seals for example is as appauling as is killing dogs, snakes or rabbits. Or hunting down whales, dolfins and other wild animals. For me I cry when I look around and see how we kill the world, day by day, and not really care. We are too busy to focus on issues that actually have a low or no impact on the bigger scheme of things. Killing dogs for food to me is less of a problem than killing the last remayning rhinos just for their horns, or killing gorillas just so someone can hace a gorilla ashtray hand. Or killing whales for 'scientific' reasons so we can have whale meat on our Japanese Menus. It also impacts less than killing, wiping out entire ecosystems for oil or wood. Maybe it is time see the forest from the wood. |
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07/15/2005 02:29:27 PM · #27 |
This is awful, espcially since one of the dogs in the cage looks uncannily like my German Shepherd! And I DO make a distinction between my dog and a cow or a pig. Dogs bond to people and offer unconditional love, protection, and loyalty. Killing them for any reason is abhorrent. What a way to reward these traits - ones we humans should nurture!
Have to go and kiss my Shiloh now....
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07/15/2005 02:32:36 PM · #28 |
My other post being done, some fun food from China and Korea...
Ever had live shrimps dipped in rice wine? They say it is good, these drunk little fresh foods.
Baby octopus chopped up live and immidiatly eaten...? Quite a sensation when the little tentacles suck on your mouth and throat as it is being consumed.
How about susi, but this fish is snapping back at your chopstick as it is being enjoyed! Now that is fresh food.;-) |
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07/15/2005 02:32:40 PM · #29 |
A lot of animals do bond to people and it's society that decides which one is right for us to kill or eat. Societies are different around the world and I don't see why killing a dog is worse than killing any other animal.
Message edited by author 2005-07-15 14:33:31. |
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07/15/2005 02:34:34 PM · #30 |
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07/15/2005 02:38:23 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
ARe you kidding?! US slaughterhouses and meat packing plants are some of the most cruel and abusive places in the world. Just read Slaughterhouse, by Gail Eisnitz, as she documents the miserable conditions and practices. For example, cows are hung upside down by one leg (she said you can hear the ligaments tearing and cries of the animal) to be cut in the throat and bleed to death. The animals know exactly what they are in for when on the assembly line and many animals don't die in a timely fashion. Some animals are boiled to death, as this expedites revoval of their hide. Hardly humane practices. |
Definitions of "humane" will obviously vary, but note that in the pics you link, the process of stunning the animals before slaughter (and before hoisting) is clearly documented. |
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07/15/2005 02:51:02 PM · #32 |
Oh puleez... I'm against brutality to animals, but what I don't get is people who get emotional about the poor doggies in Korea, but believe in womens choice when a "mother" decides she doesn't want to deal with the inconvenience that little creature will create for years to come, and goes to the local human slaughter house to have it taken care of. These are the same people who protest when they see photos of aborted babies with missing limbs..etc.
I have slaughtered animals, and have always tried to do it in a way that would inflict the least possible amount of pain. Yes some of the practices around the world are terrible... just keep it all in perspective, the civilized west isn't any better.... worse, we slaughter our own kind.
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07/15/2005 02:57:54 PM · #33 |
| Oh, and I do have a dog and other animals, but I don't go and kiss the thing (another thing that turns my stomach about this culture... the "humanization" of animals)... which is actually the result of the oposite: the "animalization" of humans... which is what most people believe these days. no thanks, I'm in no way related to animals by evolution or behavior. |
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07/15/2005 04:11:28 PM · #34 |
I had to get Gingo's comment out here in the forum, I thought it was a great mix. Here it is:
Wow, this one conjures up some emotion doesn't it.
Why is it we aren't as emotionally attached to the lobsters in the tank at the restaurant, or the cows in the field? (I am attached to the cows in the field, but I still eat them). I̢۪m not a big fan of the food chain in all its forms. Every life is precious, but the food chain just seems to diminish the value. This image is going to stay with me for a while now.
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Oh wellâ€Â¦. It’s Friday. I’ll just throw an extra rack of ribs on the BBQ and enjoy the weekend the best I can. Maybe I’ll watch an old movie like soylent green and try to forget I saw this picture.
A very powerful image Jackditch. |
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07/15/2005 05:00:36 PM · #35 |
| I can handle looking at just about anything but that is really awful... I've never seen such a thing. How sad. :'-( |
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07/15/2005 05:15:07 PM · #36 |
| The sad thing is the alive dogs right next to the dead bodies of their kind! Imagine yourself living in a cage next to a couple of people's dead bodies =( Poor... |
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07/15/2005 07:20:11 PM · #37 |
Animal abuse of any form is bad, but can we all please stop getting so emotional over it? MILLIONS of animals of every kind are totured and killed painfully everyday; not only in Korea but in all advanced and developing countries alike. It's the way the world works. You wanna stop and take a moment to feel sorry for each one? Us humans have enough problems as it is; let's spend our efforts on resolving them, not on finding more humane ways to consume meat. God put us on the top of the food chain for a reason.
Message edited by author 2005-07-15 19:21:39.
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07/15/2005 07:49:25 PM · #38 |
A lot of Koreans keep little dogs as pets, and they love them just as you or I would. However, there isn't much protecting dogs from slaughter for food or simple mistreatment.
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07/15/2005 07:50:32 PM · #39 |
That first one in the cage has a good bit of meat on him -- I wonder how much he is. ;)
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07/15/2005 08:03:27 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by :
I̢۪m not a big fan of the food chain |
LOL. One of the most benighted statements I've ever read. |
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07/22/2005 07:02:09 PM · #41 |
we do not eat dogs in Iceland.. exept for hotdogs.. but I've heard that Labradors are quite tasty, wouldn't mind tasting a dog, at least once, I have a rule that I live by, don't judge until you've tried, so I'm willing to try everything once (with a very few exeptions)
but it still is a very emotional picture..
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