Newspaper 'banned' from West Edmonton Mall

07/22/2005 12:19:27 PM · #1

As a Canadian, and a strong believer in free press, this bothers me. Canadian or not, please read this story and if you feel pressed to do so you can contact the Media Relations Coordinator of the mall as I have just finished doing.

"What's in a Name?" - Opinion Piece by Kerry Diotte of the Edmonton Sun

Contact Info for Media Services at West Edmonton Mall

Message edited by author 2005-07-22 12:20:49.

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07/22/2005 12:22:50 PM · #2

hahaha aren't they further screwing themselves (west ed mall that is) by not fowarding event info to the paper? Oi vey.

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07/22/2005 12:23:38 PM · #3

Not that any newspaper should be banned but ....
The Sun can only be loosely described as a newspaper as with all other Sun papers in the chain (Vancouver Sun excluded as it's not part of the chain). (Just my opinion)

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07/22/2005 12:24:19 PM · #4

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

hear hear

Message edited by author 2005-07-22 12:24:28.

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07/22/2005 12:25:33 PM · #5

This has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press. It has to do with privately owned business. Any business has the Free right to not have anything to do with any other company if they choose. The Sun still has all their free speech rights..

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07/22/2005 12:28:55 PM · #6

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

they have a definite lean towards sensationalism, but many of their articles (toronto sun) are accurate, hard-hitting and interesting.

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07/22/2005 12:31:38 PM · #7

I was at the race, and I actually commented on the ridiculously long name...some of the promo banners were 60 feet long.

However I do think the Sun was a bit negligent (No, no the Sun...couldn't happen) in not correctly naming the event. They pay huge dollars for the right to put their name on the event. In Vancouver (the previous location for this event) it's known as The Molson Indy...not the Vancouver Indy. If anything they should have omitted the Edmonton Part.

That said...banning the Sun? that's just plain childish and terribly short-sighted. I agree with you Mike...

P

07/22/2005 12:31:44 PM · #8

Originally posted by gwphoto:

That's a good point, you're absolutely right. My point is that they're applying pressure that leads towards big business deciding what gets printed in the paper.

07/22/2005 12:32:47 PM · #9

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by gwphoto:
This has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press. It has to do with privately owned business. Any business has the Free right to not have anything to do with any other company if they choose. The Sun still has all their free speech rights..

That's a good point, you're absolutely right. My point is that they're applying pressure that leads towards big business deciding what gets printed in the paper.

The Edmonton Journal is probably still invited to the press conferences along with other local special interest papers.

07/22/2005 12:33:05 PM · #10

Originally posted by Pedro:

However I do think the Sun was a bit negligent (No, no the Sun...couldn't happen) in not correctly naming the event.

I fully agree...I also brought this point up with the Sun staffer who made me aware of this. The Sun did make a mistake here, there's no doubt about that.

07/22/2005 12:34:38 PM · #11

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

The Sun can only be loosely described as a newspaper as with all other Sun papers in the chain (Vancouver Sun excluded as it's not part of the chain). (Just my opinion)

Well, I disagree that the Sun can only be loosely described as a newspaper. That being said, I understand your point and agree that the Sun does and says things that really go against what I expect a newspaper to do and say. Definitely not my prime choice for written media.

07/22/2005 12:36:14 PM · #12

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by gwphoto:
This has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press. It has to do with privately owned business. Any business has the Free right to not have anything to do with any other company if they choose. The Sun still has all their free speech rights..

That's a good point, you're absolutely right. My point is that they're applying pressure that leads towards big business deciding what gets printed in the paper.

The Edmonton Journal is probably still invited to the press conferences along with other local special interest papers.

Sure, but don't you think the Journal will be very careful with their reporting now?

What if a reporter uncovers a scandal having to do with the mall. My bet is that they'll be tempted to shut up about it, and only report nicely.

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07/22/2005 12:38:40 PM · #13

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by gwphoto:
This has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press. It has to do with privately owned business. Any business has the Free right to not have anything to do with any other company if they choose. The Sun still has all their free speech rights..

That's a good point, you're absolutely right. My point is that they're applying pressure that leads towards big business deciding what gets printed in the paper.

The Edmonton Journal is probably still invited to the press conferences along with other local special interest papers.

Sure, but don't you think the Journal will be very careful with their reporting now?

What if a reporter uncovers a scandal having to do with the mall. My bet is that they'll be tempted to shut up about it, and only report nicely.

Press conferences aren't the only source of information. Also, a press conference is only going to provide info that the mall wants to provide so it's already slanted.

saintaugust

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07/22/2005 12:41:53 PM · #14

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

if they're a respectable publication, which i suspect they are, i'd expect them to go at a scandal full tilt and not hold back.

SDW

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07/22/2005 12:43:37 PM · #15

It's all about business. The mall did what they did to bring attention (baited the hook) and the sun took the bait when they published this artical. Now the mall has a bigger write up and more attention concerning the race and there sponsorship than they would of if it was printed correctly.

Mall Win's in this situation. A big mall with a lot of attractions will not suffer for doing what they did. Was it wrong, maybe, but you have to agree their name and the race is tied together now by the sun.

07/22/2005 12:44:55 PM · #16

I'm not sure about that.

07/22/2005 12:45:13 PM · #17

Originally posted by saintaugust:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Originally posted by thatcloudthere:

Originally posted by gwphoto:
This has nothing to do with Freedom of the Press. It has to do with privately owned business. Any business has the Free right to not have anything to do with any other company if they choose. The Sun still has all their free speech rights..

That's a good point, you're absolutely right. My point is that they're applying pressure that leads towards big business deciding what gets printed in the paper.

The Edmonton Journal is probably still invited to the press conferences along with other local special interest papers.

Sure, but don't you think the Journal will be very careful with their reporting now?

What if a reporter uncovers a scandal having to do with the mall. My bet is that they'll be tempted to shut up about it, and only report nicely.

if they're a respectable publication, which i suspect they are, i'd expect them to go at a scandal full tilt and not hold back.

The Journal's been around for 100+ years so I don't think they'd let what happened to the Sun influence how they operate.