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 12/06/2002 12:53:48 PM · #1
Old DPC when you submitted a file that was over the 150K size limit it kept the fields filled in for you which was convenient because you didn't have to re-enter them all...Now, it clears them all for you. Is it possible to set it back to the old way where the fields were kept filled in?
12/06/2002 03:18:52 PM · #2
maybe you should just save your files under 150k.

just sayin' is all.
 12/06/2002 03:41:35 PM · #3
not all software shows the file size untill after you save it. and you dont want to keep recompressing the same file to get it down, it will distroy it
MCI said : maybe you should just save your files under 150k.
just sayin' is all.

I think psychephylax already thought of that
12/06/2002 03:52:35 PM · #4
Originally posted by kendall:
not all software shows the file size untill after you save it. and you dont want to keep recompressing the same file to get it down, it will distroy it
MCI said : maybe you should just save your files under 150k.
just sayin' is all.

I think psychephylax already thought of that


But... you should NEVER be resaving a JPEG anyway. What I do is save my final edited version in TIFF format, then use "Save A Copy" to save it in JPEG, at what I guess is the right amount of compression. If the JPEG file is then too big (or to small) I resave the TIFF file with a different compression setting until it's as close to 150k as possible.
 12/06/2002 04:07:48 PM · #5
Sorry for the inconvenience, the old site took care of it, because it was configured as such. We'll have to write a work-a-round. It's on the list..
 12/06/2002 04:28:43 PM · #6
Not sure what you may be using but PSP7 has an export Optimize JPG feature that allows you to save a copy and see the results of compression in near-real time as it is adjusted.
 12/06/2002 04:41:15 PM · #7
I mainly use PS 5.0 because of issues with version 7 around TIFF formats and things more related to desktop publishing than photography.
Note that if you use PS 7 "Save For Web" feature to optimize the JPEG it will discard the EXIF data. If you use the regular "Save As" command it will preserve the EXIF data, but you have to set the JPEG compression level manually, and without knowing the final size in advance.
 12/07/2002 12:30:59 AM · #8
Originally posted by GeneralE:

But... you should NEVER be resaving a JPEG anyway. What I do is save my final edited version in TIFF format, then use "Save A Copy" to save it in JPEG, at what I guess is the right amount of compression. If the JPEG file is then too big (or to small) I resave the TIFF file with a different compression setting until it's as close to 150k as possible.


You shoot in TIFF ? If i did that my 256MB card would only hold about 25 shots. And i get about 30 in RAW format, which is what i like to shoot in, unless i got to shoot alot of pics. but you dont shoot in jpeg then change it to TIFF do you?
 12/07/2002 12:37:10 AM · #9
In my software a setting of 6 - 7 (out of 100) gets you at about the right mark when saving a 640x480 file.
 12/07/2002 12:41:32 AM · #10
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I mainly use PS 5.0 because of issues with version 7 around TIFF formats and things more related to desktop publishing than photography.
Note that if you use PS 7 "Save For Web" feature to optimize the JPEG it will discard the EXIF data. If you use the regular "Save As" command it will preserve the EXIF data, but you have to set the JPEG compression level manually, and without knowing the final size in advance.


If you are worried about the 'Save For Web' option losing the EXIF, you could use the Save For Web - Optimise to file size... options to work out the correct size, then cancel that and plug the right numbers into the "Save As' dialog. Just a thought.
 12/07/2002 01:09:24 AM · #11
Originally posted by kendall:
You shoot in TIFF ? If i did that my 256MB card would only hold about 25 shots. And i get about 30 in RAW format, which is what i like to shoot in, unless i got to shoot alot of pics. but you dont shoot in jpeg then change it to TIFF do you?


My camera doesn't offer the RAW mode. I rarely shoot directly in TIFF, although, since I recently go two 64MB cards, I might start for important stuff since they'll hold at least 10. So...I almost always shoot in highest resolution, highest-quality JPEG mode (called SHQ by Olympus). I then edit in PS and save as .PSD file. As a next-to-last step I flatten the image to a TIFF file, apply any sharpening, and then save a copy to JPEG. I end up with 4 files for every finished photo (more if I make different sizes).

At this point, with my monitor, camera optics, and my eyes, I don't think I can distinguish between a "native" JPEG and a TIFF image from my camera, except for the file size (5.4mb vs. less-than 2mb). Maybe I should do a test, though. As I learn more, and if I ever can upgrade, I will probably look at shooting in RAW mode as a desirable feature.

Gordon -- an excellent thought (using save-forweb like a JPEG preview/calculator), but I was too lazy to write it up in the other post. Thanks for bringing it up. I mostly just find it easier to work in PS 5 (I'm a lot more familiar with it) since I don't really use any of the other advanced features in 7 anyway.

I'm not that worried about the EXIF data -- that was an educational feature -- PS 5 trashes it all anyway.

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