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01/08/2003 10:45:50 AM · #1
Don't walk, but RUN to your camera... you got five minutes to take a shot... then submit it. That could be an ugly challenge.

Or how about the ZERO post-processing Challenge? Crop is all you can do. Let's see them underexposed phtoos!
01/08/2003 10:49:14 AM · #2
ZERO post-processing would separate the sheep from the goats! Great suggestion Tony. And for additional interest, NO studio photos.
01/08/2003 10:52:26 AM · #3
I love the idea of a 'no post processing' challenge, but how would you validate it?
01/08/2003 11:09:02 AM · #4
Wow, my Pro90 would have to come out for that. The D-30 is built to have processing done. Canon's theory is weak in camera, strong in PS...

I love my Pro90 any how. Great results straight out of cam. I agree that it would be tough to verify though...

01/08/2003 11:11:55 AM · #5
which 5 minutes ?

I takes me longer than that to shoot/upload/ resize/ submit!
01/08/2003 11:12:05 AM · #6
Well, most photos would be soft because of the un-sharpening that happens during resizing. So sharpening would have to be allowed.

But some people fare better in the challenges because they are good with levels-manipulation (me not one of them).

This challenge would have to be on the honor system, pretty much.
01/08/2003 11:14:13 AM · #7
Originally posted by Gordon:

which 5 minutes ?

I takes me longer than that to shoot/upload/ resize/ submit!


hehe.... I was thinking of the time it took to pick up the camera and the time it took to push the button.

That way you'd have to KNOW what you were doing before hand, i.e. shutter speed, f/stop, lighting, etc.

Just another idea I have that's not doable since there's no way to verify it.
01/08/2003 11:24:37 AM · #8
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I love the idea of a 'no post processing' challenge, but how would you validate it?


Everyone takes in 640x480 and leaves the EXIF in on the posted image...
01/08/2003 11:26:11 AM · #9
i can't take 640x480.

800x600 is the maximum
01/08/2003 11:26:26 AM · #10
Minimum I meant obviously, lol
01/08/2003 11:35:37 AM · #11
serves you right for having a gooder camera. damn technology!
01/08/2003 12:05:32 PM · #12
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

I love the idea of a 'no post processing' challenge, but how would you validate it?


Not too hard, if the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place winners would be required to submit EXIF with their photos. This would simply be stated in the challenge rules before entering the challenge. For the lower end cameras that may not store EXIF data, we would know which camera the're using as they enter their photo.

(I think this should be an across the board policy for every challenge, but it̢۪s only my opinion).
01/08/2003 12:24:45 PM · #13
I can think of one, very easy to do way to fake EXIF data. I won't share in case it becomes something people do want to follow through with and it doesn't make sense to give people additional tools to use to cheat, but using EXIF data has it's problems....
01/08/2003 12:41:17 PM · #14
Forbidden Fruit and Train Train are two challenge photos I have done in the past that had no post processing other than a resize...
01/08/2003 03:01:48 PM · #15
Originally posted by Patella:

I can think of one, very easy to do way to fake EXIF data. I won't share in case it becomes something people do want to follow through with and it doesn't make sense to give people additional tools to use to cheat, but using EXIF data has it's problems....


you can do all sorts of things with a computer...i think most people wouldn't go to those lengths if they were serious members of this site.
01/08/2003 03:05:30 PM · #16
Wouldnt a challenge like this be unfair on the people in other timezones where it could be 3am during the challenge?
01/08/2003 03:18:36 PM · #17
I like the idea of 640x480 not post processing except file size.

The 5 mn thing is nice concept but really hard to put it place.

01/08/2003 05:30:31 PM · #18
5 mins is a bit unrealistic... but an hour... that could be done. It'd stress the site though I bet... It could be set for a random time each time they do it (to be fair to people in other time zones where it might be 3am) They could post an announcement on the site a few days ahead of time saying there will be a 1 hour challenge on X date at X time... the challenge would remain unknown until the hour it starts...

Then everyone who wants to enter has 1 hour to get their shot, process it, and upload it. It would be members only, and they could do one every month? every other week? once in a while when they want to spice things up? *shrugs* an hour is more realisitic than 5 minutes... 5 minutes really isn't possible. :-P
01/08/2003 05:40:00 PM · #19
If you kept it to 15 mins people wouldn't have TIME to post process and cheat their EXIF data surely?

;)

Kavey - interested bystander!

Message edited by author 2003-01-08 17:40:13.
01/22/2003 04:10:29 PM · #20
How about a "Midnight challenge" at a particular night? A one hour time frame sounds fair, less would be not realistic I think.
01/22/2003 04:34:49 PM · #21
We could post a "Last Hour" challenge at 11 pm on Sunday, just before the Challenges close out. Submit by midnight and start voting right away -- there's instant gratification for you...and a distraction from complaining about how your last photo just finished...of course it would severely penalize those procrastinators (e.g. myself) who are just working on entries for the other two challenges!
01/22/2003 10:56:47 PM · #22
If everyone trusts the honor system, you have the submissions open for 24 hours but the challenge says you must take and submit your photo within 15 minutes of when you read the challenge. That way all time zones have a fair shot. For the most part I trust everyone here.
01/23/2003 12:45:39 AM · #23
I think the fun part would be to see all the different things going on around the world during that particular hour.
01/23/2003 02:36:57 AM · #24
Originally posted by Arjen:

How about a "Midnight challenge" at a particular night? A one hour time frame sounds fair, less would be not realistic I think.


That would make it a 5am challenge here in the UK. I dont think any timeframe under 24h would be fair.
02/28/2003 10:02:46 PM · #25
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Forbidden Fruit and Train Train are two challenge photos I have done in the past that had no post processing other than a resize...


Wait wait wait wait wait. Forbidden Fruit has NO post processing? *sigh* Did I mention that I'm in awe of some of your shots? *sigh*

As for the 5 minute, 1 hour, 24 hour challenges, think about it like this: When it's midnight for you and all you really have is some night/studio shots, it is 2pm for me. If you run the challenge at 5pm EST, it's 7am here, etc. Subject-wise that'd make it interesting, but without covering at least 12 to 24 hours, some people may just sleep your challenge away even if they'd be interested (like me, being in Korea).

2c
Matt
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