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 12/07/2005 03:52:39 PM · #26
Originally posted by srugolo:
The problem is: if the description is there, it is to make us be creative within some borders (otherwise it is a free study!) and respecting a theme + description.


I agree 100%. I believe at least half of the "challenge" is meeting the criteria, and the other half is being creative about it and composing a good photo. I'm OK with subjective interpretations (and indeed, I still rated many of these high), but there are many interpretations for this challenge without blatantly ignoring critical words like "you".
 12/07/2005 03:54:49 PM · #27
In the spirit of Too Early, I think that we all went out and took our photos prior to reading the description. Given that makes them all "too early", everyone meets the challenge.
 12/07/2005 03:58:53 PM · #28
this is why i didnt enter
what a headache!!

People need to take of thier grouchy pants.
 12/07/2005 04:01:51 PM · #29

12/07/2005 04:04:13 PM · #30
To answer the original question, no, I didn't -- until I was at the page ready to submit the photo.
 12/07/2005 04:04:19 PM · #31
** Rikki pulls up the couch **

12/07/2005 04:28:23 PM · #32
We all come from different countries, cultures, speak different languages and of course we all have a different sense of humour (we even spell English words differently). I understand the argument but yes relax and enjoy all the great images!
Cheers from Oz

"Compose a photograph and shoot it as if you were too late"

I was too late (so late actually) that I missed the last ride to .........................................so I took a photo!
That was my take on the challenge but dont think the voters agree with my image fitting the challenge! I had fun thinking of the connection!
Luck we all see the world differently.

Message edited by author 2005-12-07 17:43:57.
 12/07/2005 04:31:38 PM · #33
Originally posted by John White:
We all come from different countries, cultures, speak different languages and of course we all have a different sense of humour (we even spell English words differently). I understand the argument but yes relax and enjoy all the great images!
Cheers from Oz


Even those with English as a first language spell English words differently. We even invent spellings or words. ;o)

Enjoy the photos. Don't be too hard on the ones you feel don't meet the challenge and have fun.

Message edited by author 2005-12-07 16:31:59.
 12/07/2005 04:35:50 PM · #34
The real problem is that the challenge creators are not as creative as the DPC'ers. The recent challenges have been ridiculous and too narrow- minded. Take a look at "Cheese". Instead of leaving well-enough alone (Cheese), they insist that it be funny.

I think we need some new creative direction on the site.
--JR
12/07/2005 05:01:58 PM · #35
Originally posted by jrjr:
Take a look at "Cheese". Instead of leaving well-enough alone (Cheese), they insist that it be funny.

I think we need some new creative direction on the site.
--JR




About 98% of challenge topics come from member suggestions via the Challenge Suggestions forum
 12/07/2005 05:27:57 PM · #36
Originally posted by runin2dson:
....I must admit though...I didnt realize until i was submitting mine that it was slightly off challenge.........


Sounds like it exactly meet the strict definition just by that statement :-)) See everything is relative....
 12/07/2005 05:40:17 PM · #37
I had to read the "Too late" challenge a couple of times myself...to reply to a comment on my photo, I was not the one who made the "accident", but I was definetely the one who was "Too Late" to let him out!..and to all who mentioned my date stamp on a previous entry...thanks, I got it!...It was my first submission, I know better now!:) Thanks for all your comments, helpful and otherwise....I appreciate the input!..new camera, still learning!
 12/07/2005 05:41:21 PM · #38
Originally posted by e301:
If there were no challenge details, we wouldn't have to have these threads.


Now this is an idea I could definately get on board with.

But to be honest we'd probably still have threads like these arguing over the meaning of the simple challenge descriptions.
 12/07/2005 05:51:23 PM · #39
Originally posted by samtrundle:
Originally posted by e301:
If there were no challenge details, we wouldn't have to have these threads.


Now this is an idea I could definately get on board with.

We've even tried that : )
 12/07/2005 05:58:57 PM · #40
Originally posted by seebrown:
âCompose a photograph and shoot it as if you were too early.â ...The key word in the sentence here is âyouâ, meaning you the photographer â¦


Where does it say "meaning you the photographer"...? Yes, the word "you" is there, but the restriction you've placed on it is your own interpretation, and not part of the challenge description. There are other interpretations which may be equally valid:

âCompose a photograph and shoot it as if you (the viewer) were too early."
âCompose a photograph and shoot it as if you (the model) were too early."
âCompose a photograph and shoot it as if you (the planner) were too early."
 12/07/2005 06:17:00 PM · #41
Get off your literalist horse. Open your brain to more than one interpretation of the idea, and go revote.
 12/07/2005 06:39:31 PM · #42
I have a bit of difficulty understanding these discussions. Why join a digital photography site whose main purpose is to enter Challenges if you then argue that you don't really have to meet the challenge topic? There are many many other places where you can just paste photos and have them voted on.

What is so appealing about DPC is that we are set a task, brief if you like, and we have to really work hard to both meet the challenge subject and to produce a quality photograph worthy of a high vote.

If you don't want to do that, why are you here?
 12/07/2005 06:43:35 PM · #43
I really don't understand why some people get so upset about a challenge, YOUR NOT REALLY GOING TO WIN ANYTHING...IMO...Have fun with this site..!! Its great..!!
 12/07/2005 06:49:53 PM · #44
Originally posted by KiwiPix:
I have a bit of difficulty understanding these discussions. Why join a digital photography site whose main purpose is to enter Challenges if you then argue that you don't really have to meet the challenge topic? There are many many other places where you can just paste photos and have them voted on.

What is so appealing about DPC is that we are set a task, brief if you like, and we have to really work hard to both meet the challenge subject and to produce a quality photograph worthy of a high vote.

If you don't want to do that, why are you here?


I don't think the discussion here is to eliminate the "Challenge" aspect of the photography.

What most people want is just some space to think in broader terms of the challenge and explore the possibilities.

Lets use the fork, knife, spoon challenge. Some people thought of great ways to explore the metallic nature of these utensils. Others wanted to show the utility of the items and maybe portray them in funny or quirky uses. Even others thought to incorporate them into political or even sexual commentary.

All are valid. And I think each challenge, whatever the "Topic" can be approached the same way. It just seems strange that people can accept a challenge of wide ranging photos as long as a spoon, knife or fork is present but if an IDEA is the topic then the acceptable photographic range is more restricted.

That seems frustrating to many I guess. That doesn't mean people don't like topics to build a photo around.

Message edited by author 2005-12-07 18:50:13.
 12/07/2005 07:07:31 PM · #45
Hey I want to be one that admits I totally screwed up and missed the actual language of the challenge. I didn't modify it for ease or to present some obscure interpretation - I just plain blew it. Oops. Is it next Tuesday yet?
 12/07/2005 07:20:57 PM · #46
Originally posted by hokie:
It just seems strange that people can accept a challenge of wide ranging photos as long as a spoon, knife or fork is present but if an IDEA is the topic then the acceptable photographic range is more restricted.

That seems frustrating to many I guess. That doesn't mean people don't like topics to build a photo around.


Exactly. I could have taken a portrait of a girl with a spoon behind her ear or in her hand and get better mark than if I didn't meet someones "idea" of a challenge. (as is currently my case, and why I'm slightly upset today)
 12/07/2005 07:21:09 PM · #47
Originally posted by hokie:
What most people want is just some space to think in broader terms of the challenge and explore the possibilities.


I agree but we each have to draw a line somewhere.

Exactly where that line is remains the choice of each voter.

cheers,
bazz.

Message edited by author 2005-12-07 19:22:17.
 12/08/2005 10:22:34 PM · #48
FOO! I had a great "Too Late" entry until I read the description carefully (as stated by the OP). I threw it out because by the challenge description it was neither too early nor too late because the shutter was fired on time. I went back, came up with a new idea that correctly meets the description and entered "Too Early".

Now I find out that maybe 10% obviously read the description and maybe another 10% did by "luck". I only score challeges I don't enter so I'm scoring "Too Late". Not knowing how to approach the issue of virtually every entry being inappropriate, I only voted on the appropriate and questionable entries to get my 20% in. Had to throw in a few OOF and other problem entries as well to make that 20%. But I decided that given the circumstances I would not score any entries that didn't read the challenge description. Just too many of them.

BTW, if I score "Cheese" I'll give a low score to any picture that doesn't make me smile. Word of warning. So there! :-)
12/08/2005 10:26:38 PM · #49


R. [/quote]

I believe that was only because it was new and caught people off-guard.

It is just a mind set people have here, they always debate what is meant by the challenge and that is brought about by the fact they are scared too interpret the challenge in a way that would be different to the norm in fear of the "Did not meet the challenge Nazis"

That is how creativity is being stifled, I don't believe in the argument that it would make every challenge a free study. What it would do is let people see that things can be interpreted in different ways and still meet the general guidelines of a challenge. [/quote]

I agree.
 12/08/2005 10:33:28 PM · #50
Everybody read the challenge but then many decided to dismiss the instructions because they are ambiguous. Take an image of a hammer striking a nail. If it drives the nail and you are at the down stroke, then the image can be considered late. If at the top of the swing it can be considered early but then it can also be considered late if you wanted to show the fly that just flew away. You may have tried to capture the tiny wings as it left the image but then a rotten image. You can consider the top of the swing early if you really wanted to show the hand picking up the hammer. Ah, who can judge what is late and what is early in a frozen image. Of course, there are some classic ideas, but then there are many entrants and not enough ideas to go around, so members decided to portray early and late in what they consider undisputed images. To see a 16th of an inch of the flies wings or the dogs' tail is generally not a commanding image. Sometimes members take it into their hands and let the strict enforces do what they like best: punish the uniformed or the ignorant.

Message edited by author 2005-12-08 23:30:05.
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