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12/25/2005 08:59:12 PM · #1 |
| I am faced with a choice. In Feb. I will be picking up my 1st DSLR. YaY! I have had a manual slr before (a nikon and a minolta but i only have to basic started lens that came with them) Now the choice is this. The Nikon D50 or the Canon Rebel XT (those are the only ones in my price range) I know that the lens on the rebel is better than the nikon from what i understand but is it worth the extra cost. And is there really anything has that the other doesnt. I've noticed that there seem to be more canon users on this site... I wonder if that's a telling sign. I just need some oppinions on which way to go on this. I dont have the extra cash at the moment for any extra lenses so i will be making do with the ones that come in the kit |
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12/25/2005 09:03:24 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by nlghttrain:
I am faced with a choice. In Feb. I will be picking up my 1st DSLR. YaY! I have had a manual slr before (a nikon and a minolta but i only have to basic started lens that came with them) Now the choice is this. The Nikon D50 or the Canon Rebel XT (those are the only ones in my price range) I know that the lens on the rebel is better than the nikon from what i understand but is it worth the extra cost. And is there really anything has that the other doesnt. I've noticed that there seem to be more canon users on this site... I wonder if that's a telling sign. I just need some oppinions on which way to go on this. I dont have the extra cash at the moment for any extra lenses so i will be making do with the ones that come in the kit |
Hey, I will be getting mine around the same time! I am going for the rebel. I picked it up. I like the way it felt. I liked the photos it took. And I am not second guessing anything over the Nikon's or other brands. I am just going for it.
You know, sometimes when you have too many choices it isn't a good thing. I also found out last night that my brother, (a technical genius) also chose and owns a rebel XT. So I guess my choice isn't bad.
By the way, I tried like hell to use your name for the user challenge. We have a train that comes through so often it is aggravating..LOL. However, not often enough at "night" to catch it. :( Sorry!
Rose
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12/25/2005 10:01:23 PM · #3 |
The Nikon is well worth the money it costs :)
Originally posted by nlghttrain:
I am faced with a choice. In Feb. I will be picking up my 1st DSLR. YaY! I have had a manual slr before (a nikon and a minolta but i only have to basic started lens that came with them) Now the choice is this. The Nikon D50 or the Canon Rebel XT (those are the only ones in my price range) I know that the lens on the rebel is better than the nikon from what i understand but is it worth the extra cost. And is there really anything has that the other doesnt. I've noticed that there seem to be more canon users on this site... I wonder if that's a telling sign. I just need some oppinions on which way to go on this. I dont have the extra cash at the moment for any extra lenses so i will be making do with the ones that come in the kit |
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12/25/2005 10:30:21 PM · #4 |
Kinda surprised Di53 didn't mention the Konica Minolta 5D. Personally, I find Nikon cameras to be quite good, but I don't like the feel of them much, (limiting that comment to the d50 though) but I find their lens choices more expensive across the board than the Canon choices unless all of your lenses are 3rd party.
Therefore, I feel Canon is the first choice if you are going to base your photographic kit around lenses. If you are only going to own a couple of lenses though, any of the top 3 are good choices.
I know plenty of guys who can shoot circles around me (if that makes any sense) that only use 1 or two lenses - wide focal range lenses at that (like 18-125 or 24-135). These guys would be happy with any body.
You might consider skipping the 18-55 or whatever comes with the d50 and see if you can get the kit lens from the d70 instead second hand. It shouldn't cost toooo much more and the 18-70 is reportedly a very decent lens.
On the other hand, there are a handful of other reasons that people go for the 350XT. For me, it's the only way to go because of a more lively field of choice in the Canon group. I also prefer the layout and operation of the 350. (I'd place the d70 a bit higher though)
For me, I found that if I were to go Nikon, I'd be buying more 3rd party lenses to save money, so the choice instantly became Nikon VS Konica there. I feel that Konica Minolta has a good enough camera in the 5D to easily trounce the d50. If you imagine that you will be satisfied with that, it's a very, very good choice.
Check it out. They also come with a really decent 18-70mm lens. You could do quite well with the kit lens and a Sigma 70-200 F2.8 and a 1.4x teleconverter - Woo Anti-shake!
On the other hand, it is just as likely that you could share lenses with your friends who also own Canon... That's a powerful combination that also figured in my decision making process. |
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12/26/2005 01:00:36 AM · #5 |
Last year at this time i was in your position...300D, 20D or d70.
20D was too much, a used 10D was tempting. The D70 was about $300 more than teh rebel (the reb had a rebate). It was a hard choice - i had Nikon and love their optics, but my nikon literally fell apart piece by piece. I had used Canon's back in college and some of their printers since, and for some reason me and canon did not get along well, a karma thing maybe.
I chose canon for initial cost, rate of new models and innovation, lens choice (both Canon and third party, new and used, availablity and price).
Based on choice/availability of lenses i'd rule out oly and km even today. I think the 350XT is kinda small, but i thought the 300d was a bit large - you get used to it. I recently held a 1D Mk2...HUGE and heavy - but i could get used to it ;)
So if you will remain on a limited budget and want many lenses, go canon.
My 2 cents.
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12/26/2005 01:06:57 AM · #6 |
| You're not locked into buying the kit lens with the D50. You could buy it body only and pick out a lens you like better if you're not impressed with what it comes with. I say this because if you've used a Nikon film SLR you'll get used to a Nikon DSLR very quickly as their controls will be similar. My boyfriend shoots film and almost every button is on the same place on his N80 as on my D70, so we both use each others cameras easily. Plus even if you just have the basic lens that came with the film Nikon, that's still one more lens that you'll have to start out with. You could pick out a lens to buy with the D50 that will compliment the one you already have. If you're really stuck, go into a store and hold both of them. Go with what fits your hand. Nothing is more important than being comfortable with your camera. |
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12/26/2005 03:11:44 AM · #7 |
| Canon XT rebel... 8mp vs 6mp. That is what swayed me. |
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12/26/2005 03:13:23 AM · #8 |
*ist DL or *ist Ds is not cheap enough? :( Uses SD cards like your current camera and AA batteries, so probably no need to buy extras if you already have rechargables. Same sensor as the Nikon models.
Message edited by author 2005-12-26 03:14:58.
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12/26/2005 03:26:14 AM · #9 |
I wouldn't buy in Feb....just wait till March.
PMA2006 begins end of Feb and we see all the new models.
We also then see the beginning of discounting on run out models.
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12/26/2005 06:23:11 AM · #10 |
| thanks for the advice everyone, So if im reading this all right for the most part It sounds like the cameras a both as similar as i thought and to just get the one that is most comfortable for me ( which is either.. I get to hold both of them every day... joy of working at an electronic store) but thanks for all the feed back. There is some info you just cant get looking at specs |
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12/26/2005 07:55:23 AM · #11 |
Faidoi, Pentax does some nice stuff too, but Pentax, Nikon and KM all have more expensive lenses than Canon. The two big factors that most people don't go for pentax is lens cost over canon and lack of higher end models.
If he really likes taking pictures, there's nothing higher up that he could switch to that uses a pentax mount.
Also, in my books, I found the KM sensor pretty much the same as the Nikon, but has AS, so it easily jumps to second place after the Canon. The pentax has no real features to make it better than a Nikon other than its low price. |
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12/26/2005 10:50:31 AM · #12 |
| For what it's worth, you may want to look at the Olympus E-500, which I believe is on the same price range as well. I have been really happy with the quality of images that I have taken so far. And it's also an 8mp. |
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12/30/2005 01:10:25 PM · #13 |
| It's true about handling - Some of these beasts are like bricks in the hand - i mean the canon D20 is a top camera and I was tempted but it weighs a ton - even the Nikon D70 was just a wee bit too big. The Rebel XT just too small - The nikon D50 - wey hey perfect! Olympus E-500 and Konica D5 handled well but lens wise I went for the Nikon. |
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12/30/2005 01:27:19 PM · #14 |
I have just bought my first dSLR and after much pondering went for the Nikon d50 but instead of going with the 18-55mm kit lens I bought the d50 with the18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G (which is the kit lens for the d70). This came to the same price as a Canon 350d with its 18-55mm kit lens.
To me this seemed the best all round choice. |
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12/30/2005 01:46:23 PM · #15 |
I too had hard time deciding between D50 and 350D. In the end it wasn't hard call at all, D50 felt like a camera and 350D felt like a plastic toy (or something like that ;). It sure delivers nice photos but so does my Nikon. 6mp vs 8mp isn't that much of an issue if you are not printing "huge" prints. I know I am not. It's true about the lenses though, Canon has the largest range and Nikkor lenses always have that little extra cost. Used Nikkors and 3rd party lenses (like Tamron 28-75!) are my solutions.
edit: Oh, forgot. Don't get the D50 kit lens. A couple shots with my dad's old MF 50mm/2.0 and I was looking for a replacement. Looks like it's not even worth selling.
Message edited by author 2005-12-30 13:49:39. |
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12/30/2005 01:58:35 PM · #16 |
| better noise at higher isos for the canon... |
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12/30/2005 02:02:35 PM · #17 |
| I played with the Canon and Nikon at the local camera shop. I liked the way the Nikon felt, and so now, Im a proud owner of a D50. It works great, expecially with the 50mm lens attached. The kit lens set, not to great. |
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12/30/2005 02:04:41 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by nlghttrain:
The Nikon D50 or the Canon Rebel XT (those are the only ones in my price range) I know that the lens on the rebel is better than the nikon from what i understand but is it worth the extra cost. |
Another possible option, get an older Canon Rebel (just body) and buy the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 XR. Better than either kit lens by far from what most of the reviews say. Though you will lose a bit of the wide ability.
Really, what you need to think about is where do you want to be in 3 yrs regarding glass? You're going to buy more lenses in the future. Which way will you have wanted to go?
If you don't think you're going to really add any more glass. I concur, check out the Olympus E-500 w/the 2-kit lense. You'll find yourself having more range than either the Nikon or Canon kits.
Really, you have to think platform and usage. I specifically went with Canon because of their great high ISO performance and Image Stabilization. I do a lot of gig photography and needed the extra low-light performance.
Message edited by author 2005-12-30 14:06:35. |
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01/03/2006 11:04:59 PM · #19 |
AND ANOTHER THANG...
I got my Nikon D50 body for £391 - now that beats anything i know ooot there including the canon 350. Get a nikon 28-200mm VR and yoos laffing! I mean laughing. Unless, of course, you want to shoot birds in which case you have a huge headache, unless, of course, you are extremely rich.
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01/04/2006 12:47:56 AM · #20 |
Expand your horizons. Give serious consideration to all the DSLRs, not just the big 2. Pentax, Konica-Minolta, and Olympus are offering truely innovative alternatives.
Personally, I find the Olympus 4/3 concept very interesting.
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