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02/25/2003 01:11:02 PM · #1
I entered my first challange with despair. I'm getting a few comments that my picture is too small. I set the image size in photoshop to get within the specifications for the contest.

How do other photographers handle this? I'm shooting with a Fuji S1 Pro on high JPEG, so my files are around 2.5 - 3mb (which i'm sure most other photographers get here). I'm used to submitting those files to DigitalPhotoContest (thanks to a Cable Line at home).

Thanks in advance!
02/25/2003 01:16:30 PM · #2
I resize my photo to 640by480. And then when I save it I use jpeg and then click into more options and change the settings to 1-5 to get the best resolution without a lot of artifacts and will be closer to the 150kb size.
02/25/2003 01:20:27 PM · #3
Sonja, in Photoshop "Save As For Web" I set size at 150kb but it usually winds up less than 100. How can I control this?
John
02/25/2003 01:26:56 PM · #4
John, I don't use photoshop, but instead of saving at 150kbs. try it at 200kbs. Other then that I don't know and I'm sure you have tried that. Good luck.
I need to get me the photoshop program, but they are so exspensive. :-(

Originally posted by JEM:

Sonja, in Photoshop "Save As For Web" I set size at 150kb but it usually winds up less than 100. How can I control this?
John

02/25/2003 01:29:09 PM · #5
Bush, what editing software do you use?
02/25/2003 01:32:35 PM · #6
Originally posted by JEM:

Sonja, in Photoshop "Save As For Web" I set size at 150kb but it usually winds up less than 100. How can I control this?
John


I use Elements which I believe is very similiar. There should be a slide labeled "quality"... (It's on the right side of the screen in Elements)... Changing this will change the compression and the size. I can usually make it between 145 and 150 using that.

Message edited by author 2003-02-25 13:33:52.
02/25/2003 01:46:52 PM · #7
Originally posted by Sonifo:


I need to get me the photoshop program, but they are so exspensive. :-(


Ulead PhotoImpact is considerably less pricey and, for my money, just as good (if not more flexible). It was the preferred choice of several reviewers I read, even compared to Photoshop.
02/25/2003 04:03:55 PM · #8
Originally posted by Sonifo:

I need to get me the photoshop program, but they are so exspensive. :-(


Gimp is free :) Very powerful too.
02/25/2003 05:55:37 PM · #9
I use photoshop 7. My technique is about the same as sonifo. i set the image size to be within the parameters and then decreased the quality to around a 5 i think.
02/25/2003 06:20:31 PM · #10
I save my final edited image in TIFF format, then use "Save A Copy" to save in JPEG with my best guess as to quality setting. I then check and see how big the JPEG file is, and repeat the "Save As Copy" procedure with adjusted quality settings until I'm as close to 150KB as I can get.

I'm using PS 5.5, which has 10 JPEG quality settings. Some versions have 5, some 12, some 100 settings...the principle is the same.

Note that sometimes there is no "middle ground;" I've had some files where I had a choice of 167kb or 107kb.
02/25/2003 06:43:28 PM · #11
Remember also that you can crop as well as simply resizing.

Beyond that I do exactly the same as GeneralE... "Save a Copy" and select maximum quality and see how big the resultant file is. I have always found that if my image size is around 640x400-ish then maximum quality is beyond 150kb, but setting it one or two notches lower is often enough. This depends on the image though so you have to experiment.

Once or twice when I've been just over 150KB I sometimes crop the image slightly to bring it under if I think I can afford to.
02/25/2003 06:50:48 PM · #12
Another trick is that a solid-color border will compress very efficiently. I had an image which was stuck at 151kb. I think I added a 4 or 6 pixel stroke (essentially the same as cropping by a few pixels and enlarging the canvas) and got it down to 148kb at the same quality setting.

If you use borders anyway, it may be worth having the image a few pixels smaller but at a higher quality setting.

Remember to always work from the TIFF intermediary (or a copy of that). If you modify your JPEG (like adding a border) and re-save it you will suffer image degradation.
02/28/2003 06:13:31 AM · #13
I got a photo that has a size of 221kb. It is a requirement to upload photo up to 150 kb. I tried to resized it in PS7, by choosing quality image set to about 4-5, but the image suffers and it becomes blurry. Please help me on how can i resize my photo without sacrificing the quality. Thanks
02/28/2003 08:06:50 AM · #14
[quote=Sonifo]
I need to get me the photoshop program, but they are so exspensive. :-(

Paint Shop Pro can do most of this basic stuff, It might be worth considering for +/- $100.00
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02/28/2003 08:48:39 AM · #15
Originally posted by JEM:

Sonja, in Photoshop "Save As For Web" I set size at 150kb but it usually winds up less than 100. How can I control this?
John


On the right hand side of the "save for web" window, there is a setting called "quality". If you place the setting higher, you will get a better resolution photo that will be closer to the 150 you are looking for.

hope this helps!

-jen
02/28/2003 11:47:43 AM · #16
Another good program for resizing is Thumbs Plus, as it has an option to increase the softness a bit when down or upsizing and shows the result before you make the change. It also shows you the resulting size (in k) along with the original vs. compressed image. And it retains the Exif info, through all the editing that you do on the image.
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