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03/27/2006 05:13:30 PM · #276 |
| yes, read down a few to Posthumous & Tom Jones. |
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03/27/2006 05:14:40 PM · #277 |
| Hmm...saw it from my reply..had not read that far yet... |
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03/27/2006 05:15:38 PM · #278 |
oh ! i like this one ... it seems that in these two sentences is the solution and the verdict, great job alienyst !
Originally posted by Alienyst:
The shot didn't have to LOOK like it was a 2 second exposure. It had TO BE a 2 second exposure. |
edit:quoting problems with dificulties :-)
Message edited by author 2006-03-27 17:17:06.
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03/27/2006 05:16:10 PM · #279 |
| So what sort of swallow would you go with in the aforementioned scenario if a swallow was infact involved? |
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03/27/2006 05:17:30 PM · #280 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Originally posted by doctornick:
NO rules were broken and the photos look like they could have been a 2 sec exposure. Period. Let's move on.
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You keep saying this but it is an incorrect statement as it pertains to the challenge. The shot didn't have to LOOK like it was a 2 second exposure. It had TO BE a 2 second exposure..... |
Read the rules! The rules specify that you CANNOT be DQ'd for not meeting the challenge. |
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03/27/2006 05:18:08 PM · #281 |
Originally posted by brizmama:
So what sort of swallow would you go with in the aforementioned scenario if a swallow was infact involved? |
It should be a swallow from San Juan Capistrano, so he'd be sure of getting home after...
R.
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03/27/2006 05:21:20 PM · #282 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Should not have entered the shot.
Originally posted by elsapo:
Ok I see some ppl are not happy, well this was by far the hardest shot I have taken, the waterfall was so strong that the mist got everything wet, and at the same time I had to balance myself (w/ a tripod) on slippery rocks (yes dangerous). I tried 2 second shots and they came out way way to bright, little by little I lowered the shutter until 1/2 second, then it came out. The sun is very strong (even on this cloudy day) up in the andes mnts., even with an ND4 filter I couldn't get it to come out at 2 seconds. I submited only because of the amount of effort I put into the shot. Sorry to those who do not like my choice to submit. |
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I don̢۪t think anyone here should be persecuted for not meeting the challenge description. The winner has broken no rules of the site, this type of thing has happened before. If anyone is to be attacked then it̢۪s the system not the individual.
What I have learnt from this is that a lot of people have not much idea about long exposure or they were not fussed about the challenge description to vote for the winner.
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03/27/2006 05:22:30 PM · #283 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
The shot didn't have to LOOK like it was a 2 second exposure. It had TO BE a 2 second exposure. |
It had to be a 2 second exposure in the context of a challenge where the rules don't actually require it. The voters determine the winner based on what they see. Thus, the appearance of a 2 second exposure was more important in this case than the actual shutter speed. IF special rules had been imposed that required a 2 second shutter speed, then that would have been a different story. |
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03/27/2006 05:25:02 PM · #284 |
okay i have to add this ...
how can someone enter the 2-second exposure challenge with photo not taken with 2-second exposure ? :-)
no i'm not narrow minded, we all should be creative but then ...
i also could make a probably better shot with shorter or longer exposure (it depends of course) but it never crossed my mind to enter a photo with some other exposure then 2 seconds ...
but hey it's just me and my 2c
peace,
goran |
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03/27/2006 05:26:10 PM · #285 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Alienyst:
The shot didn't have to LOOK like it was a 2 second exposure. It had TO BE a 2 second exposure. |
It had to be a 2 second exposure in the context of a challenge where the rules don't actually require it. The voters determine the winner based on what they see. Thus, the appearance of a 2 second exposure was more important in this case than the actual shutter speed. IF special rules had been imposed that required a 2 second shutter speed, then that would have been a different story. |
The appearence was only important because the voters assumed it was a 2 second exposure, meeting challenge requirements. If the shutter speeds were listed for all entries during voting, the outcome would be totally different.
So if a variable of a challenge is hidden to the voters during voting, then it's upto the site to maintain the integrity of the challenge since the voters are kept in the dark.
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03/27/2006 05:32:56 PM · #286 |
You know, there's really no disagreement that the wording of this challenge created some problems, which will "probably" be addressed in the future.
We're not going to change the DQ rules for this challenge at this late juncture, so further complaining and name-calling really serves no useful purpose.
Those of us who were precluded from entering because of equipment limitations were afforded another Member challenge later in the week, so we were not forced into an entire week without an Advanced Editing challenge.
With all the "tournaments" scheduled for the next couple of weeks, I suggest we all start looking forward at the upcoming challenges, or are you too yellow ... : ) |
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03/27/2006 05:34:54 PM · #287 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You know, there's really no disagreement that the wording of this challenge created some problems, which will "probably" be addressed in the future.
We're not going to change the DQ rules for this challenge at this late juncture, so further complaining and name-calling really serves no useful purpose.
Those of us who were precluded from entering because of equipment limitations were afforded another Member challenge later in the week, so we were not forced into an entire week without an Advanced Editing challenge.
With all the "tournaments" scheduled for the next couple of weeks, I suggest we all start looking forward at the upcoming challenges, or are you too yellow ... : ) |
I'm yellar...I even wore my yellar shades today.
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03/27/2006 05:50:39 PM · #288 |
Not to beat a dead horse, but.... I have to agree with all who were very disappointed.
"Description: Take a photograph using a shutter speed of exactly 2 seconds."
This seems pretty cut and dry. If 1/2 sec is ok, where's the cutoff? Could someone have posted one that was 1/100 or 5 secs? The description says it all to me. If someone has equipment that won't do a 2 second exposure, oh well, maybe they'll have to wait for another challenge and not dupe everyone into thinking it was a 2 second exposure until after they've gotten the ribbon.
I think the blue ribbon in this case is completely undeserved.
Read the rules! The rules specify that you CANNOT be DQ'd for not meeting the challenge
Maybe the rules should change?? |
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03/27/2006 06:04:55 PM · #289 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
You know, there's really no disagreement that the wording of this challenge created some problems, which will "probably" be addressed in the future.
We're not going to change the DQ rules for this challenge at this late juncture, so further complaining and name-calling really serves no useful purpose.
Those of us who were precluded from entering because of equipment limitations were afforded another Member challenge later in the week, so we were not forced into an entire week without an Advanced Editing challenge.
With all the "tournaments" scheduled for the next couple of weeks, I suggest we all start looking forward at the upcoming challenges, or are you too yellow ... : ) |
Thank you. I hope that is the end result. The wording should not sound as if it is setting stipulations if they will not be enforced. Thanks for keeping the site fun and interesting and for responding to concerns. |
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03/27/2006 06:05:49 PM · #290 |
Originally posted by rblanton:
Thank you. I hope that is the end result. The wording should not sound as if it is setting stipulations if they will not be enforced. Thanks for keeping the site fun and interesting and for responding to concerns. |
What he said...
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03/27/2006 06:08:56 PM · #291 |
Originally posted by tryals15:
Originally posted by Gatorguy:
Originally posted by brizmama:
Were either being carried by a swallow? |
What KIND of swallow? |
Probably a non-migratory one... =] |
It could grip it by the husk...
It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
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03/27/2006 06:09:29 PM · #292 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
First, to get more people to pay attention to the "spirit of the challenge" SC must disqualify more entrants for violating that spirit. Precluding the thread titled 2-second exposure as I did not read all 13 pages, this would have been as good of an opportunity as you could ask for to to just that. |
The fatal flaw in this argument is that the rules, at present, allow for DQ for violating the spirit of the rules, not of the challenge. The challenge description is not part of the rules, and is expressly not subject to DQ (unless stated explicitly in the extra rules).
Personally, I agree that this should have been addressed in this challenge with an Extra Rules flag, but it wasn't. All we can do at this point is chalk it up to a lesson learned and look forward.
~Terry
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03/27/2006 06:09:58 PM · #293 |
YES! Finaly! I love the Holy Grail!
Message edited by author 2006-03-27 18:11:01.
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03/27/2006 06:18:46 PM · #294 |
Originally posted by Alecia:
i rarely get into these things, and i couldn't read every page of this, so if i missed the explanation for this already, then i apologise.
this particular issue is one that i don't understand. if all of this stuff was taken into consideration *before* the challenge, and the higher-ups were aware of these substantial issues going into this challenge...then why on earth was it ever brought forth as a specific challenge in the first place? would it not have been far easier and certainly more fair to everyone to just implement a different challenge, such as one that only specified a *general* slow shutter speed, with a less specific and rigorous description? |
The issue came up after the challenge topic was announced. Remember that with few exceptions, we on Site Council do not know the challenge topics any earlier than the membership.
~Terry
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03/27/2006 06:51:26 PM · #295 |
| whew, i'm glad to see i'm not the only one who posts without reading the whole thing, haha. thanks club, paul responded to that earlier. see pg. 11. :) |
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03/27/2006 06:58:15 PM · #296 |
| cant we all just get along? |
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03/27/2006 07:11:07 PM · #297 |
"The issue came up after the challenge topic was announced. Remember that with few exceptions, we on Site Council do not know the challenge topics any earlier than the membership."
Excuse my ignorance, but who does select and challenge titles and edit the rules and descriptions? Since it is not the venerable Site Council, woould it not be too much to ask the relevant person to stand up and say a word or two for the audience? I joined this site to learn and improve my photography. But I find I am learning something else too. |
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03/27/2006 07:14:25 PM · #298 |
Originally posted by pineapple:
"The issue came up after the challenge topic was announced. Remember that with few exceptions, we on Site Council do not know the challenge topics any earlier than the membership."
Excuse my ignorance, but who does select and challenge titles and edit the rules and descriptions? Since it is not the venerable Site Council, woould it not be too much to ask the relevant person to stand up and say a word or two for the audience? I joined this site to learn and improve my photography. But I find I am learning something else too. |
That would be the adminsitrators/owners of the site (Drew and Langdon).
~Terry
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03/27/2006 07:15:45 PM · #299 |
Originally posted by pineapple:
Excuse my ignorance, but who does select and challenge titles and edit the rules and descriptions? |
Challenge topics are suggested by SC members and members of the site, but only the site administrators choose which ones are going to be used, and when. |
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03/27/2006 07:18:40 PM · #300 |
Originally posted by pineapple:
"The issue came up after the challenge topic was announced. Remember that with few exceptions, we on Site Council do not know the challenge topics any earlier than the membership."
Excuse my ignorance, but who does select and challenge titles and edit the rules and descriptions? Since it is not the venerable Site Council, woould it not be too much to ask the relevant person to stand up and say a word or two for the audience? I joined this site to learn and improve my photography. But I find I am learning something else too. |
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