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03/31/2006 10:34:20 AM · #1 |
I don't know if this is feasable, but maybe as a condition to keep your blue ribbon past a month (or some time frame) might be to write a how to on that photograph.
-Rick |
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03/31/2006 10:37:09 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
I don't know if this is feasable, but maybe as a condition to keep your blue ribbon past a month (or some time frame) might be to write a how to on that photograph.
-Rick |
Forget that. I barely have enough time to enter a challenge, let alone write a page of instructions to go along with it. I would just quit the site completely.
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03/31/2006 10:38:50 AM · #3 |
| I'd have to agree that its not really feasible. Some very creative people would have zero interest in writing a formal how-to on a shot. |
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03/31/2006 10:41:54 AM · #4 |
Maybe instead of posting an entire howto, they could just give some basics in the description? I have looked a soooo many awesome photographs and so many just say n/a.
it only takes a minute or two to describe how a neat shot was achieved..and it would help all of us learn, too!
just my opinion..
-=lee=- |
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03/31/2006 10:42:41 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
I don't know if this is feasable, but maybe as a condition to keep your blue ribbon past a month (or some time frame) might be to write a how to on that photograph.
-Rick |
You and all your RULES and REQUIREMENTS - how dare you try to tell ME what to do with MY images.
j/k
If this was a requirement, I could see a few things happening:
-The How To articles would become cumbersome to search through (maybe)
-People will half-ass their way through the Tutorial, just to get it done.
-Take away time that should be spent shooting/post-processing.
What I do like, though, is when people leave descriptions with the picture as to what they did as far as setup and whatnot, and their workflow.
But the fewer requirements, the better...IMO
That being said, I don't see a Blue in my near future - so it wouldn't have that much of an effect on my time :-)
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03/31/2006 10:47:25 AM · #6 |
If you want to know just ask them. They would very likely answer you.
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03/31/2006 10:49:41 AM · #7 |
umm, yeah. not going to happen. just post something with a link to the pic, or ask the photog directly if you don't see photog comments.
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03/31/2006 10:54:01 AM · #8 |
I don't think a full tutorial is needed, but a wee bit about the picture itself in the comments would be nice. Not required, but nice!
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03/31/2006 11:04:11 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by leeleeo:
Maybe instead of posting an entire howto, they could just give some basics in the description? I have looked a soooo many awesome photographs and so many just say n/a.
it only takes a minute or two to describe how a neat shot was achieved..and it would help all of us learn, too!
just my opinion..
-=lee=- |
Although I haven't won any ribbons, I try to put in a good description of what I went through to create the picture. If only everyone else would that would be great. I've also found that some folks will just tell you if you message them... and some will remember to then update their picture with that information.
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03/31/2006 11:58:10 AM · #10 |
For many ribbon winners, there's really no secret technique behind how they captured and processed the photo, so requiring a tutorial would probably not be a worthwhile effort.
However, it might be nice to have a section of the site dedicated to explanations of ribbon-winning shots. This will give some additional recognition to the photos that were voted best on the site and will provide a single location to go to for photo techniques. Maybe an additional link under the Learn tab might be a good place for that.
Message edited by author 2006-03-31 11:58:33.
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03/31/2006 12:27:30 PM · #11 |
i think the idea is on the right track.
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03/31/2006 12:35:53 PM · #12 |
| As I posted in this thread which is essentially the same suggestion made a few hours earlier, I think it's great to encourage ribbon winners (and anyone, really) to share their process but I doubt it will ever be required and I don't think it should be. |
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03/31/2006 12:39:11 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
However, it might be nice to have a section of the site dedicated to explanations of ribbon-winning shots. This will give some additional recognition to the photos that were voted best on the site and will provide a single location to go to for photo techniques. Maybe an additional link under the Learn tab might be a good place for that. |
Isn't that what this How'd They Do That? section does already? It's not restricted to ribbon-winners, but includes photos found interesting and asked about. |
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03/31/2006 12:39:44 PM · #14 |
I'd like to see more How-to's on this site, but when you start requiring people to do such things, all you get is poo.
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03/31/2006 12:51:24 PM · #15 |
Okay, maybe the term require is too much.
How about this, give the ribbons for 1 month then it's gone. If you write a How To then you can have the ribbon for as long as you are a member.
Not forcing anyone to do anything. ;)
It's just an idea to get more how to's written.
-Rick |
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03/31/2006 12:57:08 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
Okay, maybe the term require is too much.
How about this, give the ribbons for 1 month then it's gone. If you write a How To then you can have the ribbon for as long as you are a member.
Not forcing anyone to do anything. ;)
It's just an idea to get more how to's written.
-Rick |
Better yet, how about paying the ribbon winners for information. Then it would be motivationa dn no different than any other learning avenue like school or photo workshops. ;o)
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03/31/2006 01:00:53 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
Okay, maybe the term require is too much.
How about this, give the ribbons for 1 month then it's gone. If you write a How To then you can have the ribbon for as long as you are a member.
Not forcing anyone to do anything. ;)
It's just an idea to get more how to's written.
-Rick |
How about just politely PMing people and letting them know that you'd be interested in seeing a how-to if they would share. It's not quite as fun as threatening things but you're likely to get more positive results. |
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03/31/2006 01:00:57 PM · #18 |
Instead of criticizing people for being slackers and piling on new requirements, why don't you just ask someone who took a picture you're curious about if they'd write a how-to article?
People respond better to requests to demonstrate their expertise than the do to imposing additional "requirements." |
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03/31/2006 01:01:27 PM · #19 |
| mk types too fast, but thinks good! |
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03/31/2006 01:03:05 PM · #20 |
mk and GeneralE are right, compliments go a long way. I'm sure many ribboners around here would feel flattered to get requests for how-to's.
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03/31/2006 01:34:40 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Brent_Ward:
Better yet, how about paying the ribbon winners for information. Then it would be motivationa dn no different than any other learning avenue like school or photo workshops. ;o) |
That's a good idea... Some sort of prize in addition to the blue and you get published on a big site.
-Rick |
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03/31/2006 01:38:03 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by mk:
How about just politely PMing people and letting them know that you'd be interested in seeing a how-to if they would share. It's not quite as fun as threatening things but you're likely to get more positive results. |
I do that now we all do that now, I'm trying to make a suggestion for the web site in Web Site Suggestions. Frankly,there isn't many new 'How'd they do that,' articles.
If I ask, then the person tells me directly or it gets buried in the photo comments. Writing the article puts them all in a central location.
-Rick
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03/31/2006 02:01:16 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Isn't that what this How'd They Do That? section does already? It's not restricted to ribbon-winners, but includes photos found interesting and asked about. |
Almost. What I think might be helpful is to send a boilerplate note to all ribbon winners asking them to fill out a form with a brief explanation of how they created their winning image, maybe allowing them to upload the original as well. This would not be nearly as in-depth as the HTDT pages, but it would be a nice look into the creation of a sucessful image, with one or two useful pointers.
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03/31/2006 02:23:12 PM · #24 |
While I don't have to worry about writing one of those and I do understand your desire for more information (I also get a little miffed when they don't put any details about the image in there), but I really don't see this working. It's a virtual ribbon anyway, I myself wouldn't care if my virtual ribbon was removed because I didn't have time to write about my image, it would still be first in the challenge but just missing a ribbon.
I have seen some ribbon winners that didn't expect to win in the first place, so they probably didn't really keep (or pre-acquire) additional information that lead up to their image. I'm sure they could more or less tell you what they did but would that really be more helpful.
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