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04/01/2006 02:47:56 AM · #1
I think this challenge is a little unfair, alot of members didn't even have a digital camera that long ago, I didn't even have a film camera back then.

Not meaning to bitch but we do pay for the right to enter these member challenges. Why not make this one a open challenge?
04/01/2006 02:53:18 AM · #2

Oops - I'm sorry - I thought this was a random photo thread. ;-)

Message edited by author 2006-04-01 02:54:24.
04/01/2006 02:54:06 AM · #3
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:



LOL
04/01/2006 02:56:05 AM · #4
Not to be an adversary, but IMHO, I love these specific challenges.

Even though I am in the same boat as you, I am still looking forward to see the results. Remember, this is a "Speed Challenge", which in affect is an additional challenge to the normally posted ones. Half the time, most people cannot enter anyway due to time constraints (24 hours).

You can still enter the Textures IV or Yellow III (or both), so I dont think its that big of a deal. Again, just my humble opinion. :-)
04/01/2006 02:56:32 AM · #5
Originally posted by GIS_boy:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:



LOL


LOL LOL
04/01/2006 02:57:56 AM · #6
Originally posted by CzechMan:

Not to be an adversary, but IMHO, I love these specific challenges.

Even though I am in the same boat as you, I am still looking forward to see the results. Remember, this is a "Speed Challenge", which in affect is an additional challenge to the normally posted ones. Half the time, most people cannot enter anyway due to time constraints (24 hours).

You can still enter the Textures IV or Yellow III (or both), so I dont think its that big of a deal. Again, just my humble opinion. :-)


I believe in the industry that is termed 'hitting the nail on the head' - Well said Czechman.
04/01/2006 03:00:39 AM · #7
I was being a bit facetious, but I just think everyone could complain about any given challenge because of their personal circumstances:
I don't have anything "Yellow"
My camera doesn't shoot 2 second exposures
I'm gonna be out of town this week, please reschedule
No fair! I can't shoot a decent macro to save my life!
etc. etc.
04/01/2006 03:10:48 AM · #8
The point is people should not be excluded because they don't have a four year old photo that they took with exif. Even if I had something that I took with my dads camera in 2002, I wouldn't be able to enter because it doesn't have exif data
04/01/2006 03:13:44 AM · #9


;-)

Message edited by author 2006-04-01 03:17:00.
04/01/2006 03:39:49 AM · #10
Originally posted by 308:

The point is people should not be excluded because they don't have a four year old photo that they took with exif. Even if I had something that I took with my dads camera in 2002, I wouldn't be able to enter because it doesn't have exif data

Again, I am sorry that your personal circumstances have left you entry-less. I just checked and noticed I had also been excluded from hundreds of challenges that occurred before I found DPC, as well as ones that I couldn't enter because I was busy or out of town.

There is no rule against what you consider "exclusivity" and I don't consider 100% inclusion as being guaranteed in any way either. I don't mean to be sarcastic (it's just my nature), but I find it irritating when we start haveing more challenges than we have ever had concurrently lately and someone complains they can't enter one of them.

Like someone more nicely responded, just enter one or more of the others that you can enter.
04/01/2006 03:46:58 AM · #11
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by 308:

The point is people should not be excluded because they don't have a four year old photo that they took with exif. Even if I had something that I took with my dads camera in 2002, I wouldn't be able to enter because it doesn't have exif data

Again, I am sorry that your personal circumstances have left you entry-less. I just checked and noticed I had also been excluded from hundreds of challenges that occurred before I found DPC, as well as ones that I couldn't enter because I was busy or out of town.

There is no rule against what you consider "exclusivity" and I don't consider 100% inclusion as being guaranteed in any way either. I don't mean to be sarcastic (it's just my nature), but I find it irritating when we start haveing more challenges than we have ever had concurrently lately and someone complains they can't enter one of them.

Like someone more nicely responded, just enter one or more of the others that you can enter.


And I believe in the industry that is termed 'Checkmate' :)

Seriously though, Art is absolutely right, I have been familiar with DPC for less than 6 months and the number of challenges to enter recently is just daunting. There just aren't enough hours in the day to compose a 'just' entry for all the challenges that come our way each week but boy I enjoying trying.
04/01/2006 04:24:04 AM · #12
So much I'd like to say,...but I won't.

I will ask this question though: I can see you've been around here for a long time, but in that month and a half :-), you could have entered 12 challenges, yet only entered 3...so why so upset about this one???

Message edited by author 2006-04-01 04:25:07.
04/01/2006 04:31:47 AM · #13
Originally posted by taterbug:

So much I'd like to say,...but I won't.

I will ask this question though: I can see you've been around here for a long time, but in that month and a half :-), you could have entered 12 challenges, yet only entered 3...so why so upset about this one???
rtfp
btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data
04/01/2006 04:38:22 AM · #14
Originally posted by 308:

...btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data


hmmm, not only a good way to get a dq, but also a possible suspension, not to mention a loss of respect and credibility :-)

best of luck to ya
04/01/2006 04:40:32 AM · #15
Originally posted by taterbug:

Originally posted by 308:

...btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data


hmmm, not only a good way to get a dq, but also a possible suspension, not to mention a loss of respect and credibility :-)

best of luck to ya
They have to prove it first
04/01/2006 04:41:21 AM · #16
Originally posted by 308:

Originally posted by taterbug:

So much I'd like to say,...but I won't.

I will ask this question though: I can see you've been around here for a long time, but in that month and a half :-), you could have entered 12 challenges, yet only entered 3...so why so upset about this one???
rtfp
btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data

Setting the camera date back won't change the fact your camera didn't exist 4 years ago. :P

But then again, supporting external evidence has never been accepted for data/time violations before, so ...

David
04/01/2006 04:53:19 AM · #17
Originally posted by 308:

Originally posted by taterbug:

Originally posted by 308:

...btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data


hmmm, not only a good way to get a dq, but also a possible suspension, not to mention a loss of respect and credibility :-)

best of luck to ya
They have to prove it first


Wont be that hard since you just posted your intention for all the SC to see.
04/01/2006 04:56:26 AM · #18
Originally posted by David.C:

Originally posted by 308:

Originally posted by taterbug:

So much I'd like to say,...but I won't.

I will ask this question though: I can see you've been around here for a long time, but in that month and a half :-), you could have entered 12 challenges, yet only entered 3...so why so upset about this one???
rtfp
btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data

Setting the camera date back won't change the fact your camera didn't exist 4 years ago. :P

But then again, supporting external evidence has never been accepted for data/time violations before, so ...

David
All data can be changed including the camera make and model
04/01/2006 05:09:19 AM · #19
Originally posted by 308:

rtfp


Way out of line and unnecessary...

Originally posted by 308:

All data can be changed including the camera make and model


This will be my last post in this thread now that things have become plain juvenile. 308, you aren't doing yourself any favours here, time to pull the pin mate.

Good luck in the other challenges.
04/01/2006 05:13:15 AM · #20
Originally posted by ShutterPug:

Originally posted by 308:

Originally posted by taterbug:

Originally posted by 308:

...btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data


hmmm, not only a good way to get a dq, but also a possible suspension, not to mention a loss of respect and credibility :-)

best of luck to ya
They have to prove it first


Wont be that hard since you just posted your intention for all the SC to see.
Me saying it and them proving it are two different things.

Anyone else who feels they are being excluded from this challenge because they don't have a 4 year old photo or the camera they had 4 years ago didn't record EXIF, feel free to contact me and I'll show you how to change the data.

btw I realy didn't give a shit about entering this challenge but the response I have got from all but one or two people in this thread has shown me that most of you are just self centered assholes who don't give a shit what anyone else has to say. As for losing the respect and credibility of the people who have replyed here, why would I want respect from people like that? They never showed any respect when I posted my opinion about this challenge, did they?
04/01/2006 05:16:36 AM · #21
Originally posted by 308:

Originally posted by David.C:

Originally posted by 308:

Originally posted by taterbug:

So much I'd like to say,...but I won't.

I will ask this question though: I can see you've been around here for a long time, but in that month and a half :-), you could have entered 12 challenges, yet only entered 3...so why so upset about this one???
rtfp
btw it don't matter I found a way to fake the exif data

Setting the camera date back won't change the fact your camera didn't exist 4 years ago. :P

But then again, supporting external evidence has never been accepted for data/time violations before, so ...

David
All data can be changed including the camera make and model


Seems slightly hypocritical to me to be moaning that it isn't morally right to have challenges you can't enter yet be prepared to cheat!
Faking EXIF etc goes against everything this site stands for and the credibility of any shot entered in future. Believing you are capable of this, negates your own credibility for any future shots.

Apologies if I have infringed any of the "new" forum rules. I don't mean this as a personal attack, merely as a comment.
P
04/01/2006 05:18:44 AM · #22
Originally posted by GIS_boy:

Originally posted by 308:

rtfp


Way out of line and unnecessary...

Originally posted by 308:

All data can be changed including the camera make and model


This will be my last post in this thread now that things have become plain juvenile. 308, you aren't doing yourself any favours here, time to pull the pin mate.

Good luck in the other challenges.
Don't worry this will be my last post on this forum, from the replys in this thread I have losed all respect for this site and the people on it, I will continue to enter the challenges, because I have PAYED to do so, or I could always go and make an offical complant to paypal about the service not receved with this challenge and get my money back.
04/01/2006 05:25:16 AM · #23
btw you might all do good to READ what I said in my first post. I only became rude and angry after the rude replys that were made to my first post. I realy cant get over how rude and quite frankly, stuck up you people are. Good bye.

"I think this challenge is a little unfair, alot of members didn't even have a digital camera that long ago, I didn't even have a film camera back then.

Not meaning to bitch but we do pay for the right to enter these member challenges. Why not make this one a open challenge?"
04/01/2006 05:27:11 AM · #24
SC? This forum thread is descending fast!!! The language alone is enough to start thinking about locking.
04/01/2006 05:35:14 AM · #25
SC? Where? :P

Any attempts to falsify EXIF data are taken very seriously and could lead to suspension from the site.

Message edited by author 2006-04-01 05:39:28.
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