Critique Request 09 - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

08/23/2002 10:48:36 AM · #26

Originally posted by Jonniboy:
The think the leapt out at me when I saw this (nice pic BTW) was the vanishing point on the left. You've got strong converging lines and the brightest part of the picture there on the left leading the eye out of the frame. I think this works well because it suggests there's more to see which keeps me interested in the picture. However, I think it works even better if you flip the picture left to right. Western viewers tend to "read" pictures left to right (people who read their language right to left unsurprisingly tend to read pictures right to left). It looks "odd" if an image doesn't fit with this style. Sometimes surprising the viewer can work really well but often it just kind of confuses them. This is why a lot of (western) landscapes have a stopper (like a tree) on the rhs.

THIS is the lesson in this image :) All it needs is a horizontal mirror flip to work much better... :)

David Ey

Nikon D80

08/23/2002 11:02:54 AM · #27

John, these Critique sessions you hold are a real asset. THANKS

focus

Canon EOS-20D

08/23/2002 11:45:18 AM · #28

Its a trick shot. Its too clean!

"Okay, who here is signing for the 9,358 bottles of Mr.Clean?"

08/23/2002 01:14:13 PM · #29

THIS is the original black and white version I worked on with this photo....

THIS is what it looked like right out of the camera with no post processing...

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

08/23/2002 01:18:44 PM · #30

After looking at this image with a horizontal mirror, I believe that I still like the original format best. In the original, the lines are disappearing out of the frame on the left, and that doesn't really work well for me.... However, flipping it horizontally gives the impression that the train is moving out of the frame on the left... I dunno... Maybe this shot would have been better done from a head on perspective rather than trying to shoot at an angle... I will do another set of this stuff when I go back to this museum...

David Ey

Nikon D80

08/23/2002 01:40:53 PM · #31

When you go back would you shoot one with the light more on the center to two-o-clock of the wheel?

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/23/2002 01:43:22 PM · #32

Originally posted by David Ey:
When you go back would you shoot one with the light more on the center to two-o-clock of the wheel?

I have no control over the lighting, so it would depend on what time of day i was there and if the rear doors on the roundhouse were open.. I think my next set will be quite different from these... I made over 100 photos on this trip... i may try to do some closeups for 'form and function' purposes next time around...

lionelm

Canon EOS-10D

08/23/2002 01:55:41 PM · #33

Hello I do not have that much time (I am at work and a big pile of project ) I should not have add this favorite to my browser but I have to say I like the colors a lot in the color version and maybe I like the picture a little more in color, the vanishing point â��pbâ�� is less obvious because the shape is less .. popping out. Really all the tones of the colors are just GREAT.
I had something I would like your opinion please. I
Q: I have a tendancy to think that something should be fully in the picture, or Â½ but that a 1/20 of an object inside the frame or a 1/20 of an object outside the frame in not very good.
So I have a tendancy (do not get me wrong I like this picture a lot) that the wheel on the left should be fully â��inâ�� or that a bigger part of it should be missing.
Any idea about that ?
I am using this picture and this thread but thatâ��s what I am trying to do to my picture so .. I would like your opinions guys.

Anyway : Nice shot
Lionel

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/23/2002 02:01:58 PM · #34

Originally posted by lionelm:
Hello I do not have that much time (I am at work and a big pile of project ) I should not have add this favorite to my browser but I have to say I like the colors a lot in the color version and maybe I like the picture a little more in color, the vanishing point â��pbâ�� is less obvious because the shape is less .. popping out. Really all the tones of the colors are just GREAT.
I had something I would like your opinion please. I
Q: I have a tendancy to think that something should be fully in the picture, or Â½ but that a 1/20 of an object inside the frame or a 1/20 of an object outside the frame in not very good.
So I have a tendancy (do not get me wrong I like this picture a lot) that the wheel on the left should be fully â��inâ�� or that a bigger part of it should be missing.
Any idea about that ?
I am using this picture and this thread but thatâ��s what I am trying to do to my picture so .. I would like your opinions guys.

Anyway : Nice shot
Lionel

I understand what you are saying here...

What you do and don't include in the frame has several factors involved in making that decision... First of all, if you include more of one thing, it's also going to include more of other things. In this case, including more of anything would have also included more of the floor. The floor here was not pretty to look at :)

It's all in the eye of the photographer. It also depends on the particular object in question. In this case, the wheel...

You have to ask yourself how much certain aspects of the photo matter in the overall picture :)

lionelm

Canon EOS-10D

08/23/2002 02:06:09 PM · #35

That make sense !
When it's a still or a 'studio' controlled picture it's easier , I di not thought in that case about the ground.

Do you think that it's a 'valid' rule for a still picture or a 'fully controlled' picture ?

And I really love that color in the color version. How would you call it in english ? 'copper' ?

Lionel

08/23/2002 02:09:30 PM · #36

Originally posted by lionelm:
That make sense !
When it's a still or a 'studio' controlled picture it's easier , I di not thought in that case about the ground.

Do you think that it's a 'valid' rule for a still picture or a 'fully controlled' picture ?

And I really love that color in the color version. How would you call it in english ? 'copper' ?

Lionel

In a studio or in controlled conditions, the photographer can create whatever end result is desired.

The coloring on this photo comes from rust and from incandescent lighting :)

focus

Canon EOS-20D

08/23/2002 03:11:39 PM · #37

JM:

My "Mr. Clean" comment was tongue in cheek. I hope you know that. The photo is excellent. I was not seriously challenging you. But still it is the cleanest locomotive I've ever seen! :o

08/23/2002 03:18:07 PM · #38

Originally posted by focus:
JM:

My "Mr. Clean" comment was tongue in cheek. I hope you know that. The photo is excellent. I was not seriously challenging you. But still it is the cleanest locomotive I've ever seen! :o

It's a museum piece that has been restored to its original condition :)

ashishtibrewal

Nikon Coolpix 5700

08/27/2002 06:16:34 AM · #39

Can someone please critique my gallery
My Gallery

Thanks
Ashish